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  1. Pen Pit Stop : Kaweco Liliput Copper Welcome to the Pen Pit Stop. Here you will find reviews of pens that already have some mileage on them. More specifically, these reviews are of pens that are in my personal collection, and that have been in use for at least a year. I thought it would be fun to do it this way - no new & shiny pens here, but battered vehicles that have been put to work for at least a year. Let's find out how they have withstood the ravages of time. The fountain pen that arrives at the pit stop today is the "Kaweco Liliput Copper." Kaweco is a well-known German pen company, whose history dates back to 1883 with the foundation of the Heidelberger Federhalterfabrik (Heidelberg dip pen company). The brand is best known for its pocket pens of the Sport and Liliput range. As early as 1905 Kaweco had already manufactured the first writing instruments made out of metal. This tiny pocket pen is made from untreated copper which quickly develops a beautiful patina. I bought this pen in August 2015, and it has been in rotation as an EDC (Every Day Carry) pen since that time. This is one of my older pens, which has been in use for over 3 years now. Let's have a closer look at it. Pen Look & FeelThis is a great EDC pen - with a truly minimalistic look: no ornaments for this pen except for the Kaweco logo on the cap's finial. Etched along the top of the cap is the pen's designation "Kaweco Liliput Germany." The pen is truly tiny - I typically carry this Liliput in my pocket along with my keys. Because it's a workhorse pen, you don’t have to worry about it getting scratched or dented. This pen is meant to take a beating, and gets its character from the patina and scratches it accumulates during its lifetime. I never polished my pen, and in the three plus years I've been using it, the Liliput developed a really beautiful dark patina. One thing to note: the original branding of my pen on the cap's finial and the small engraving on the cap's side have completely been covered by the patina the pen has developed. On the picture below only a faint shadow of the original Kaweco logo remains on the top of the cap. Give it a few more months, and all branding will have disappeared. I couldn't care less - I totally like the weathered look of my pen. When you're ready to use the pen, just unscrew the cap and screw it on the back of the barrel. You then get an almost full-sized fountain pen that is comfortable in the hand. Unposted, the pen is really too small for real writing, but can still be used for jotting down a few short sentences. This screw-on posting takes some time. Before you can start writing, you have to unscrew the cap and screw it on again on the back of the barrel. Personally I don't mind the few moments this takes. I've gone Zen about it... getting the pen ready to write gives me a few moments to order my thoughts before putting text on paper. The Liliput is basically a tiny metal cylinder - which means that it has a tendeny to roll away. This is something to be aware of. Kaweco does sell separate pen clips if you absolutely want one, but I never used them. In my opinion they don't match with the minimalistic look of this pen. I've gotten into the habit of putting my pen in places where it can't roll away. The steel nib on this pen is the same as that of the Sport model - a small nib that looks right at home on this tiny pen. The pictures above illustrate the size of the Liliput Copper in comparison with a standard Lamy AL-star. Capped and uncapped, the Liliput lives up to its name. It truly is a tiny pen. The pen is meant to be posted, and then gets almost as big as an unposted Lamy AL-star - a comfortable size to write with. Pen CharacteristicsBuild Quality : a very sturdy pen, that can really take a beating. I typically carry it around in my pocket together with my keys. As such, the pen accumulates lots of scratches, but it is designed for this, and this abuse gives the pen its character. My pen also developed a really nice patina that looks simply beautiful. This copper pen aged gracefully.Weight & Dimensions : about 9cm when capped - and as such a small pen to carry around, perfect for an EDC pen. It's basically a small copper cylinder, the size of a sigaret. Being made of copper, the pen has some heft to it even despite its tiny size. Posted - the pen becomes a 12cm long fountain pen, that's comfortable to use even for longer writing sessions.Filling System : this is a cartridge convertor pen, that fits small-size international cartridges. Kaweco sells a mini-convertor, but I have never used it. I find it much more convenient to just syringe-fill small cartridges. Nib & Performance : I find the steel nib perfectly sized for this tiny pen. A big plus is that the nib units are user-changeable. Kaweco sells nib units in the sizes EF-F-M-B-BB. I really appreciate that you can easily replace the nib unit. You don't have to fear damaging your nib, since you can easily replace it. You can also experiment with different nib sizes. Nib units cost about 10 EUR - not expensive. The EF nib on my Liliput Copper wrote well out-of-the-box. From user experiences on this forum, Kaweco nibs seem to be hit and miss. I got lucky with mine: they never needed tuning. Price : about 89 EUR, including taxes. Not cheap for such a tiny pen, but in my opinion still great value for money. ConclusionThe Kaweco Liliput Copper is a great pocket pen, with a really nice minimalistic look. This is a very sturdy pen, that's meant to take a beating. My pen has developed a really nice patina over the years, and manages to maintain its looks even with the many scratches it has accumulated in its lifetime. This truly is a pen that looks better with age. The big question is: would I buy this pen again? To this, my answer is a resounding: YES. As an EDC pocket pen, you can't go wrong with this Liliput Copper. I certainly love my tiny writer!
  2. Pen Pit Stop : Kaweco Liliput Fireblue Welcome to the Pen Pit Stop. Here you will find reviews of pens that already have some mileage on them. More specifically, these reviews are of pens that are in my personal collection, and that have been in use for at least a year. I thought it would be fun to do it this way - no new & shiny pens here, but battered vehicles that have been put to work for at least a year. Let's find out how they have withstood the ravages of time. The fountain pen that enters the pit stop today is the "Kaweco Liliput Fireblue". Kaweco is a well-known German pen company, whose history dates back to 1883 with the foundation of the Heidelberger Federhalterfabrik (Heidelberg dip pen company). The brand is best known for its pocket pens of the Sport and Liliput range. As early as 1905 Kaweco had already manufactured the first writing instruments made out of metal. This tiny pocket pen is made from hardened steel with a hand-torched finish. I bought th Fireblue in November 2015, and it has been in rotation as an EDC (Every Day Carry) pen since that time. This is one of my older pens, which has been in use for over 4 years now. Let's have a closer look at it. Pen Look & FeelThe Liliput is a great EDC pen with a truly minimalistic look: no ornaments for this pen except for the Kaweco logo on the cap's finial. Etched on the side of the cap is the pen's designation "Kaweco Liliput Germany". The pen is truly tiny - I typically carry the Liliput in my pocket along with my keys. The Fireblue is basically a steel pen, and can take a beating. You don't have to worry about damaging it. The Liliput Fireblue is so named because the finish is literally born out of fire. The pen is hand-torched, and in the process gets a unique pattern with steel, blue, purple, orange and brown hues. Unfortunately, you have to pay a hefty surplus for this special look (149 vs 79 EUR for the regular steel pen). When the pen was new and shiny, the torched material looked wonderful with a rainbow of fairly bright colours. After four years of use though, the colours have faded substantially and the pen now looks quite dull and unattractive. This one doesn't age gracefully - a world of difference with the Liliput Copper. When you're ready to use the pen, just unscrew the cap and screw it on the back of the barrel. You then get an almost full-sized fountain pen that is comfortable in the hand. Unposted, the pen is too small for real writing, but can still be used for jotting down a few short sentences. This screw-on posting takes some time... before you can start writing, you have to unscrew the cap and screw it on the back of the barrel. Personally I don't mind this delay. Getting the pen ready to write gives me a few moments to order my thoughts before putting text on paper. The Liliput is basically a tiny metal cylinder, which means that it has a tendency to roll away. This is something to be aware of. Kaweco does sell separate pen clips if you absolutely want one, but I never used them - in my opinion they don't match with the minimalistic look of this pen. I've gotten into the habit of putting the pen in places where it can't roll away. The steel nib on this pen is the same as that of the Sport model - a small nib that looks right at home on this tiny pen. The pictures above illustrate the size of the Liliput Fireblue in comparison with a standard Lamy Safari. Capped and uncapped, the Liliput lives up to its name. It truly is a tiny pen. The pen is meant to be posted, and then gets almost as big as an unposted Lamy Safari - a comfortable size to write with. Pen CharacteristicsBuild Quality : a very sturdy pen, that can really take a beating. I typically carry it around in my pocket together with my keys. The torched fireblue finish with its rainbow of colours is totally beautiful when new, but doesn't age well with time. The colours fade away, and scratches don't look so good on the rainbow finish. After four years of use, I am left with a rather dull-looking steel pen. My guess is that the plain stainless steel Liliput will age more gracefully.Weight & Dimensions : about 9cm when capped - and as such a small pen to carry around, perfect for an EDC pen. It's basically a small steel cylinder, the size of a sigaret. Being made of steel, the pen has some heft to it even despite its tiny size. Posted - the pen becomes a 12cm long fountain pen, that is comfortable to use even for longer writing sessions.Filling System : this is a cartridge convertor pen, that fits small-size international cartridges. Kaweco sells a mini-convertor, but I have never used it. I find it much more convenient to just syringe-fill small cartridges. Nib & Performance : I find the steel nib perfectly sized for this tiny pen. A big plus is that the nib units are user-changeable. Kaweco sells nib units in the sizes EF-F-M-B-BB. I really appreciate that you can easily replace the nib unit. You don't have to fear damaging your nib, since you can easily replace it. You can also experiment with different nib sizes. Nib units cost about 10 EUR - not expensive. The F nib on my Liliput Fireblue wrote well out-of-the-box. From user experiences on this forum, Kaweco nibs seem to be hit and miss. I got lucky with mine: they never needed tuning. Price : about 149 EUR, including taxes. Quite expensive for such a tiny pen, especially when compared with the 79 EUR for the plain steel version. ConclusionThe Kaweco Liliput is a great pocket pen, with a really nice minimalistic look. This Fireblue steel variant of the Liliput is special only because of its hand-torched finish. For this you have to pay almost double the price of the regular steel version - that is quite a hefty surplus. The rainbow finish of the Fireble looks extraordinary beautiful when the pen is brand-new, but fades away with time, leaving you with a rather dull-looking pen. In my opinion, this hand-torched finish does not age well with time, and is certainly not worth the extra money. The big question is: would I buy this pen again? To this, my answer is clear: NO. I like the Liliput form-factor, but not the Fireblue finish. It doesn't stand the test of time. In my opinion, you're better of with the plain steel version. Or better: get the Liliput Copper, which is definitely a winner that just gets more beautiful with each passing year.
  3. I really like Kaweco Liliput pocket pens – they are simple, robust and beautifully machined fountain pens. However, the Liliput’s small size mandates that ink cartridges need to used instead of a cartridge converter. I became frustrated with what I perceived as ink starvation when writing for extended periods of time with the pen, so I decided to look into this phenomenon in more detail. The picture below shows a cross-section view of the interface between the ink cartridge and the Kaweco (Bock) 060 nib. This 060 nib is used on all Kaweco fountain pens, except the Elite and Supra models. It shows that the plastic ball that originally sealed the ink cartridge sits nicely on top of the feed tube when the pen is orientated upright – which is the opposite of what’s desirable from an ink flow perspective. The feed tube length for the Kaweco (Bock) 250 nib (used on the Elite and Supra pens) extends about twice as far into the ink cartridge, so the mechanism for the plastic ball to obstruct the feed tube is largely mitigated for this design. My solution to this perceived problem is to prevent the plastic ball from being pushed into the cartridge. I use crimp pliers (i.e. smooth jaws) to squeeze the cartridge and eject the plastic ball from a new ink cartridge. Its a bit messy, but only needs to done when a replacement cartridge is required. I empty the cartridge and dry it out – then fill it with my favorite (Monblanc permanent blue) ink using a 0.2ml disposable transfer pipette. A photo of a (truly) empty ink cartridge and pipette is shown below. The 0.2ml pipette is small enough to be inserted into the ink cartridge, and represents a very compact and inexpensive approach to fill cartridges. I reuse the pipettes numerous times, so I have a lifetime supply from the minimum quantity of 200 that I bought from Amazon for about $20. If you find that you’ve experienced similar ink flow problems with your Kaweco cartridge pens, you may wish to consider the above approach to hacking the Kaweco cartridge interface.
  4. I think it came out a little better actually than oem but only because I polished the pen first. Mostly it came out about the same as it does when Kaweco fires the pen. Firing this pen was very different than firing the Steel Sport. I had to really lay into this one and I think it took longer than the Steel Sport despite no real disassembly required with the Liliput. I didnt fire it with machining oil on it as Kaweco does. The results are very similar though. Theres no plastic in this pen so its pretty straight forward to fire. The big challenge was to get the polishing compound out of the threads. I used a sonicare toothbrush with an expired brush head to do that. Optimally would be an ultra sonic cleaner. I figure it took an hour start to finish if anyone is interested in doing this at home. Overall I do like the finish better on the polished pen vs the original Kaweco Fireblue but I can see why Kaweco doesnt go that route. Just the cleaning would add an hour to production for each pen. Original Fireblue on the left and mine on the right.
  5. Tom Traubert

    Kaweco Al Sport Vs Liliput

    Hi all. I fancy a new Kaweco, having both a Classic and Skyline Sport and being pretty impressed with them. To be honest, I think I prefer the looks to the writing experience but the latter certainly isn't bad. I also like the portability and durability of the pens, so am thinking of adding another to my collection. I'm torn between the black stonewashed AL Sport and one of the eco brass Liliputs. http://d15bv9e9f3al6i.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/cp/950_constW/KW30868-ZZZ~Kaweco-AL-Sport-Fountain-Pen-Black-Stonewashed_P1.jpg http://d15bv9e9f3al6i.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/cp/950_constW/KW41940-ZZZ~Kaweco-Liliput-Fountain-Pen-Eco-Brass_P1.jpg http://d15bv9e9f3al6i.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/cp/950_constW/KW41946-ZZZ~Kaweco-Liliput-Fountain-Pen-Eco-Brass-Wave_P1.jpg I love this description from Cult Pens: And I also like this idea: But the the stonewashed AL Sport just looks badass from the off, although the idea of a brass Liliput that is totally unique due to my own filthy hand oils and pocket dirt is possibly even more badass. But which of the two to choose? And, to make things worse, both pens are £62.99 (is this a thing in the USA too? Why the hell do they not round up to the nearest pound?) on Cult Pens and have the same nibs. I like the copper Liliput best of all: http://d15bv9e9f3al6i.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/cp/950_constW/KW40964-ZZZ~Kaweco-Liliput-Fountain-Pen-Copper_P1.jpg But that's £89.99, which is officially 'silly money' for a pen with a steel nib.
  6. Hi, I have bought a Skyline sport a few weeks back and I love the pen. Next, I would like to buy a metallic version of a Kaweco Fountain pen. I saw that there is the Al Sport and the Lilliput. Please suggest me which one will be the best one to buy because I want to use it for a long long time. I love full metallic fountain pens as they last for a life time.
  7. Can anyone tell me how the Liliput nibs compared to, say, a Lamy safari style nib in widths? Im going to pick up a Liliput in Fireblue but this is my first Kaweco. Is it standard European line widths? I like a Lamy medium nib width BUT a micro pen in double broad does have a crazy appeal to it! I cant believe Ive made it this long without a Kaweco but nows the time! I want to expand the micro fountain pen segment of my collection. My only other right now is a Montegrappa Micra and I really like that pen. Cheers!
  8. phillieskjk

    $30-$40 Off Fireblue Kaweco On Ebay

    There are Fireblue Kaweco Liliputs on Ebay for $144, around $30 cheaper than the price at most other websites. No affiliation with the seller, just thought I'd pass along the deal if anyone is interested in buying the pen. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kaweco-Liliput-Fountain-Pen-Fireblue-Fine-Point-New-In-Box-/391475663542?hash=item5b25c492b6:g:k8wAAOSw8w1X5Ema
  9. A little while ago, a member posted a picture of his homemade clip for the Kaweco Liliput. In my opinion, the Liliput badly needs a clip solution, if only to keep it from rolling off tables. Unfortunately, I'm not a metalsmith, so I can't make one like that myself. But there is something I've wanted to try for a while, at the admitted risk of scratching the Liliput's finish. Fisher, makers of the Space Pen ballpoint, make removable clips for their bullet style Space Pens. Sometimes they come with a new pen; sometimes you have to buy it as an extra; they package it in several different ways. The clips are stainless steel and come in chrome, black, and gold finishes. Well, it worked. The Space Pen is on the right. http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt221/mapn/Demo/Liliput3%201_zpsgmmkfn4f.jpg With the Space Pen, the cap is tapered, which makes it easy to slide on. With the Kaweco, I first tried to pre-spread the clip a bit by sliding it as far down as I could on the tapered barrel of a Pilot Parallel. That may have widened it a little bit. In any case, I had no trouble getting it onto the Kaweco Cap, just had to spread it a little with my fingers. It's a fairly tight fit, but as far as I can tell, I didn't scratch the finish. Now that it's on there, I don't plan to move it around a lot. I lined it up this way as the most esthetically pleasing. http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt221/mapn/Demo/Liliput5%201_zpsd9xtcy43.jpg People who like their clips to be precisely aligned with the nib when writing might not care for this, as, at least on my pen, the clip is cocked about 45º to the right when screwed on in the posted position. That doesn't bother me, though. Again, there has to be some chance of the clip scratching the finish, particularly if you're always adjusting it. It seems to be on there very securely, though. It won't promote the Liliput to the status of one of my absolute favorites, but I'm likely to use it more often now than I would otherwise.
  10. lunarfp

    Kaweco Liliput Clip

    Hello everyone, I'd like to add a custom clip to my Kaweco Liliput. I was wondering if any of you might know the exact diameter of the cap? I believe that it is about 10mm, but I'm not sure about it. It seems like Kaweco might launch an official one in 2017.
  11. I've admired the look of the fireblue Kaweco Liliput, with its cool metallic sheen, but the pen itself is a bit too small for me, I'm afraid. Is there a fountain pen with a similar look that might be larger? Over 130mm capped perhaps. And maybe something not super-heavy like the Chinese metal body pens? And hopefully less expensive than the Kaweco?
  12. I just bought a Kaweco Liliput with a broad nib. It's perfectly decent, they are not expensive pens there is no reason to pick it apart. But...there is one thing that I would like to improve. The nib seems to be aligned, but the nib runs dry and is prone to skipping. Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing? Is there a quick and easy fix that I can do if I'm not experienced in adjusting nibs? Might it help to slide a razor blade between the tines? I would be grateful for any advice. On a totally different note, Does anyone know a nib man in berlin? I have a Parker Sonnet that needs a minor adjustment.
  13. I am looking at buying a pocket pen and Kaweko has the Sport and Lilliput that look pretty good. I have a Parker Sonnet gold tipped medium nib which I love writing with (I write lightly). I am rather liking the look of the Liliput but I have a duple of questions: Do Kaweko use the same nibs for both the Sports and the Liliput? How do the gold-plated Sonnet and Kaweko nibs compare? Do the Kaweko broad nibs write any smoother than the medium nibs? Are the medium and broad nibs on the Sonnet and the Kaweko the same?
  14. While roaming the "New Arrivals" section of Jetpens I came across a new finish for the Liliput. It's called fireblue and it's incredible. http://static1.jetpens.com/images/a/000/066/66096.jpg http://static1.jetpens.com/images/a/000/066/66095.jpg And it's sold out. I can see why. EDIT: Here is the link to see more pictures.
  15. Over the past few weeks, we’ve seen a number of new lines from Kaweco, including their premium bottled inks, Liliput Brass, AL Sport Stonewashed, Deluxe Octagonal Pocket Clips, and best of all, and exclusively available at Cult Pens, the Eco Wild Raw Leather pouches. Kaweco have given us a number of interesting product finishes over the years, but none have been quite as unusual as the new AL Sport Stonewashed, available in black or blue. The premise is simple, take the popular AL Sport range and stonewash it like you would a pair of jeans. The result is a writing instrument that looks as though it has been well used over the years. Creating the finish in this way also means that no two pens are the same - the pen you have will vary from everyone else’s, perhaps by a little, maybe by a lot. As usual, pocket clips are optional, but the new Deluxe Octagonal Pocket Clips do add to the vintage-look of the Stonewashed. Add in a Kaweco Sport converter for the fountain pen, and you can use Kaweco’s new high-quality bottled ink, available in 7 colours, each in a 30ml bottle. Kaweco inks are a premium formulation, very reminiscent in character and colour of the old rotring inks. 2014 has also seen the introduction of a new super-compact Brass Liliput. Milled from solid brass, the untreated finish means this pen will - like the AL Sport Raw that came before it - wear over time and develop a unique patina depending on use and storage conditions. This finish can either be left to develop its patina or can be restored using brass polish and a liberal application of elbow grease. Available as either a fountain pen or a ballpoint, in smooth or waved finishes. Following these recent future-proof additions to the Kaweco family, comes the Eco Wild Raw Leather Pouch, a high-quality and incredibly strong leather pouch, which will acquire its own unique character over time. Eco Wild Raw leather pouches are manufactured from high-quality cowhide, sanded and oiled to a velvety, rustic richness. As the leather is not artificially coated, it will readily acquire a patina, along with the scuffs and scrapes of daily use adding to the character of the pouch. These pouches go beautifully with most Kaweco pens but especially with the plain metal finishes. The MD of Kaweco carries his richly-scuffed AL Sport Raw in one of these – a superb combination. Available exclusively from Cult Pens now, the Kaweco Eco Wild Raw Leather pen pouch comes in one- or two-pen sizes to suit both the Liliput, and Sport ranges. Get 20% off an Eco Wild Raw Leather Pouch when you buy any Kaweco AL Sport or Liliput, by using discount code FPNK20 at the checkout.





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