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  1. An interesting article from Scientific American New Scientist (edited - thanks to those who pointed out the error), 1959, outlining the history of the development of quick-drying fountain pen ink, and how the ink and paper interact to influence perceived feathering or line spread. It also is clear how ink recipes can affect pen components or reliability thereof. http://bit.ly/Science_of_Quick_Drying_Fountain_Pen_Inks
  2. jonathan7007

    New X-Feather Colors Coming?

    I have seen attendees at recent pen shows mention new [Noodler's]x-feather colors. Has anyone seen these at a retailer, or know anything about their release into the market? I use the black every day due to my paper and nib choices. Really want to have options.
  3. So I have like four dot grid notebooks that were gifts because people knew I liked pens and use dot grid notebooks. The problem I'm having is that they bleed and feather when I use anything other than a fine or extra-fine nib, or a wet ink. I would like to find someway to use them, until I can get a fountain pen friendly B5 notebook for my daily notes. There has been significant discussion on using art fixatives to preserve notes, addresses, drawings, etc. AFTER they have been created, but I can't find anything regarding reducing the porosity and absorbency of "cheap paper" to make it fountain pen friendly. Does anyone have solutions or hacks for this, or is it simply buying quality (and expensive) papers. I am going to do a test with my wife's hair spray lightly sprayed on a sheet then quickly wiped down. Thoughts and suggestions appreciated. Jim Bunch
  4. Okay so I know this sounds strange (or normal for those who have been in the hobby for long enough), but I've received a lot of information regarding pigmented inks which have ended up being quite confusing. The main source of confusion is in its behaviour on paper. I've seen glowing reviews of inks such as Sailor nano inks, Montblanc Permanent Inks and Platinum Carbon ink, but then I've got some more confusing (not contradictory) information regarding the pigmented inks from Rohrer & Klingner regarding their behaviour on paper: bleeding and feathering (at least with flex)? little bleeding and feathering? There is also confusion coming from my own experience: Speedball India ink (don't worry, I used it with a dip pen, no fountain pens were used) spread everywhere, feathered, and bled quite a bit, even on high quality paper such as Clairfontaine, and even cartridge paper. I could only be *salvaged* when I went to dilute it, and only ended up behaving when I had made it a 6:1 water:ink solution, producing a very sad, light grey. Rohrer & Klingner Sepia Calligraphy ink ended up misbehaving too, though it was slightly better than the Speedball. May I please get some clarification on why this is?
  5. Which fountain pen inks would you use to test an unfamiliar paper product for (at least some aspects of) its fountain pen friendliness? Recently I've been in a frenzy of acquiring more notepads and notebooks, on which to write with fountain inks, largely in brick-and-mortar stores with Japanese names such as Daiso, Muji and Kinokuniya. Unfortunately, it is not common practice for stores here to have samples or tester units of paper products; Daiso has none, and Muji may put out just one or two but not selected on the basis of either, "compare our premium made-in-Japan writing paper, against our 'planting tree' line sourced primarily from Indonesia, and our recycled paper line with a minimum of 55% recycled content made in either country," or, "we say this line of notebooks is show-through resistant, so have a go writing or drawing on it with your pens of choice!" Kinokuniya offers a few, but far from covering all the main brands of which it sells multiple product lines; the samples are mostly $20+ notepads and $25+ journals. Nevertheless, Daiso products on a per-item (but not necessarily per-page) basis, are cheap enough to be perhaps 'worth' just buying one as a private tester unit, if upon inspection in-store the paper seems promising; the same can be said of (only) some Muji products. Not so what Kinokuniya sells! Anyway, I'm of a mind to put together a handful of (no more than five or six) fountain pens in a carry case, as the essential test kit for writing paper, whether I do the testing on provided tester units in-store, or what I actually purchased on a punt. Obviously, the selection of pens and inks would reflect my personal writing habits and preferences, but as a limited test kit and of course limited time in which to do such testing I'm primarily interested in covering edge cases while still being 'reasonable'. (For example, as far as I'm concerned, using Noodler's Polar Green ink would be unreasonable; in my experience it feathers on and bleeds through just about every make and type of paper, so much so I had to stop using it for anything and give my bottles of it away in spite of having bought them for its purported 'bulletproof' qualities.) Here's an example of the kind of testing I have in mind: Muji 裏うつりしにくいノート B5 Notebook Set Now, I'm curious as to what you — and everyone else — would choose for testing. I hate feeling as if I have to pre-empt this, but I want to make this clear: the question is not, "What would you like to see in a paper review prepared by someone else at their expense?" I want to know what's relevant and important enough to you that you would spend the money, take risks, and/or make the effort to buy, sample and test unfamiliar paper products for their suitability for your usage with fountain pens; what enthuses you enough that, pass or fail, you'll want to share the results at your cost with other hobbyists. I'm thinking in terms of us as doers and contributors to the community, not merely takers and consumers of crowd-sourced information or frugal shoppers. I'm still refining my own list, but roughly in order of priority: Platinum Carbon Black — I love pigment inks for their permanence and waterproofness, including not changing colour when soaked or washed, when it comes to content that I want to remain legible for the lifetime of the paper (and perhaps my lifetime); and I'd want a dense, dark, 'formal' colour for testing. Sadly, Sailor kiwaguro is not waterproof, and so I prefer Platinum Carbon Black, but I do find that some papers don't take well to the latter. All the better to include that as the Number One ink in my test kit. Interestingly, problems with feathering and bleed-through of this ink are more likely to manifest with high stroke density using a very narrow nib, as opposed to writing with a broad or stub nib, so for the purposes of the test kit, the ink will be dispensed using a Japanese Fine or Extra Fine nib.Platinum Classic Ink Lavender Black — I think a paper product should be tested for how it deals with iron-gall inks, and of the three iron-gall inks I have today (but two more are on order), I like the colour and punchiness of Lavender Black the best, when delivered using a Stub nib. Not just writing with a broad nib for "showing off" the ink, but to render some semblance of Italic writing on paper; the shading is a not-unwelcome side effect, but the base colour (which would get ruined by soaking or washing) and water resistance is the reason I use this ink.Pelikan 4001 Blue/Black — This is just a very old bottle of presumably iron-gall ink I have, which is what I use with the pen that has my favourite nib, a 14K gold Pelikan EF nib that Dan Smith customised to a crisp italic for me. For the purposes of testing a paper product, I'd be primarily looking at the crispness of the pen strokes on the page.Sailor Shikiori yodaki — I love the colour but hate the wetness of this ink, and it's a relatively expensive ink to boot (as it was never offered in the round 50ml Sailor Jentle bottles the way the sixteen originally Shikisai colours were). Oh, and it sheens green and gold. In my experience, many coated and uncoated papers don't deal well with a wet line of this ink.Diamine Iridescink Robert — A highly saturated monster-sheener of an ink, that is much cheaper than Sailor Shikiori yodaki and of which I have a large bottle. At the moment I primarily use it in a Pilot Elabo with a Soft Extra Fine nib, and many papers have problems with bleed-through when I allow the nib to linger for a moment as I try to flex the nib to get swells in pen strokes.I haven't quite decided what the sixth ink should be; Noodler's Air-Corp Blue-Black is a candidate, and so is Diamine Jalur Gemilang. I use Sailor souboku and seiboku pigment inks in Fine-nibbed pens often, but they tend to be so well-behaved on most papers that they don't warrant testing when I'm unsure of a new or unfamiliar paper product. Over to you! Edit: Eleven new inks just arrived in the past 24 hours, so I may have to look at revising my list.
  6. Hi, I love drawing on newsprint paper which feathers and soaks up ink in glorious globs whenever I stop moving the pen for an instant. But of course newsprint is not archival and turns yellow. Is there an acid free newsprint-like paper? I've looked but have not found such a thing. Any help appreciated. Thanks.
  7. I picked up a Daiso Rakugaki A5 Sketch Pad while I was in the store yesterday. I'd strongly advise not writing on the pages of one with a fountain pen.
  8. Afternoon All, Wondering if someone could impart some friendly advice on me. I have used Black n' Red's wire booked A4 90gsm "Optik Paper" for the last 5-6 years for my day to day notes / scribbles at work etc. I probably go through a 140 page notebook every 2 months so I have quite a few of them collected on my bookshelf now. Sadly it appears that they have recently changed the manufacturing process / paper finish as on my latest notebook from my recent re-stocking of new notebooks, I am getting pretty annoying feathering for the first time ever. The paper looks and feels different, but Black n' Red have this down as the "same" notepad. I am using the Platinum Mixable Inks as there is a particular shade of blue I have become fond of which I mix myself, which is the blue colour in the photo. (For anyone interested it is 3 parts Aurora Blue (AB), 3 parts Aqua Blue(QB) and 1 part Silky Purple (SP).) I have never had this problem on this notepad prior to the change but its incredibly annoying now especially as I keep all my filled in notebooks. Would someone be able to give a bit of advice if there is anything I can do to the ink to "dry" it out a bit or if anyone could recommend a good notebook that I can use moving forward which has good quality paper as well as a cover finish (Hard back cover and wire bound). Cheers Mike
  9. (The topic title notwithstanding, this is not really about the paper, but the inks in question.) Usually Noodler's X-Feather is so good at resisting feathering, I could write on a run-of-the-mill paper napkin with it using my Rotring 400 pen with an EF nib, and it would barely show any feathering; furthermore, soaking said paper napkin afterwards still would not induce feathering. Imagine my surprise to see writing done with that pen and ink feather earlier tonight, especially when Sailor seiboku does not appear to feather on the same paper to anywhere near the same degree. The paper in question is one of these adhesive labels: Avery-branded removable white rectangular dispenser labels
  10. I do not know how 100% cotton paper will work. I am looking for something with a ivory color so I could make my own journal. Anyways I found this but I do not know if it will work well. Hopefully it should work with watermen black, noodler's xfeather and De Atramentis archival ink. Do you guys think it would work. I didn't really get straight forward answers for cotton paper, and I have no idea what resume paper is. Ive also heard things about noodlers not working with cotton. https://www.staples.ca/en/Southworth-100-Cotton-Resume-Paper-24-lb-8-1-2-x-11-Ivory-100-Pack/product_365513_1-CA_1_20001
  11. birchtine

    Some Blues And Feathering

    Some time ago, while looking for a blue ink I could use at work, I decided to test my potential candidates for feathering. It's not a definitive test and the results may be misleading and disputed. Also, the fact that one ink feathers does not mean that it's worse than those which don't. It may just have some other equally important qualities. In a dry pen most of these inks will behave acceptably. However, for me this testing was important mainly because some of my favourite pens are wet writers and if not paired with a right ink they become almost useless on copy papers. I used a single, old and fairly wet (high flow) pen and tested 25 mainly blue(ish) inks on two types of paper: one relatively fountain pen friendly and another more absorbent. Below are the results and low resolution photos. For more detailed images please follow the link to the album. None to minimal feathering R&K Salix Diamine Registrar's Akkerman 10 BB Callifolio Equinoxe 6 Minimal feathering Pelikan Royal Blue Callifolio Mediterranee Callifolio Atlantique Mild spread and feathering Sheaffer Skrip Blue Aurora Blue R&K Scabiosa Callifolio Azure Waterman Serenity On the absorbent type of paper (front and back): On the fountain pen friendly type of paper:
  12. truthpil

    Diamine Cornflower Ink Review

    Hello again to all my FP friends, [This review has been sitting on my desk for months and I finally got around to posting it. Stay tuned for a comparison of Diamine Cornflower and Penbbs #116 Cornflower.] Diamine needs no introduction on this board. Suffice it to say that they have been making inks for over a century and produce many, many beautiful hues, a lot of which are prone to feathering and bleed through on everyday office paper. This ink up for review is from Diamine’s Flower Series. It is named after the cornflower (centaurea cyanus) which can be various shades of blue or lavender. I’ve never seen the flower in person, but by just comparing with various photographs online, the ink looks like a pretty good match to the flower. Diamine Cornflower is a deep and very saturated blue with a dash of purple. This ink dries quickly on absorbent paper, but has an average dry time on nicer papers. Sheening is nice and shading possible with wet nibs on good paper. It can be quite a stunning color with the write combination. Unfortunately, this ink’s downfall as a daily work ink is its tendency to feather and bleed through. Although feathering with finer nibs wasn’t too bad on copy paper, even the Japanese fine nib produced noticeable bleed. Water resistance is passible; a dark purplish line remains legible. This is a lovely vibrant color that reminds me of a dark counterpart to Noodler’s Baystate Blue. The color is also standard enough that it could be used in most professional environments. They only thing that keeps me from buying a bottle is that the feathering and bleed through make it impossible to use on any paper I would run into outside the house. However, if you like saturated, slightly purplish dark blues and mostly use good paper, then this is not an ink you’ll want to miss. *A special thanks to lapis for sending a sample of this ink to me! Pens used (in order): 1. Pilot 78G Fine 2. Lamy Safari Broad 3. Pilot Plumix Italic 4. Noodler’s Nib Creaper Flex 5. Hero 5028 1.9mm Stub Swab Paper Towel Drop 80gsm Rhodia Tomoe River *Many thanks to Lord Epic for kindly sending me some of this paper! Check out that subtle sheen! 70gms Deli Copy Paper Moleskine Water Resistance Comparison (More blues to be added later) Thanks for reading! SDG
  13. Friends, I'm looking for suggestions for ink for grading/marking student papers. Constraints: I need to avoid feathering and bleed-through on a very wide range of papers used by students. I can't control their paper choices.Drying time is less critical, but still important. I'd like to be able to make a comment, turn the page, and go on reading and writing, not necessarily in a fraction of a second, but within a second or two.I don't want to use black or blue, because students often use these colors themselves.I don't want to use red, because students perceive red comments as hostile, even when they are not.Green, purple, or brown are good color choices, but if you have just the perfect ink in pink or orange or plaid or whatever, do, please, suggest it. Fountain pens are very much my favorite writing implements, but I'm not at all a collector of pens or of inks, though I celebrate those of you who are. I can't afford to experiment with a dozen different pens and inks, so I'm hoping something that will just work will emerge from this obviously stupendously informed body. I'm currently using Waterman Tender Purple ink and an extra-fine nib. This works much of the time, but I still have to switch to a roller-ball much more commonly than I would like. Thanks in advance, Tim
  14. [video=youtube;MvlZJ0iUGuQ] Intro: I like to use Fountain pens at work, and there isn’t always good paper to use, and I really do not like the look of feathering especially if I write something and need to give it to a college. So I was very interested to see if Noodler’s X-feather could be the answer to my woes. I ordered a sample from the Goulet Pen company and set to testing. Testing parameters: I used my Lamy 2000 with a fine nib because I think it was a good simulation with putting just enough ink on the page to test how the ink performs on the page(s). I also needed a “control” so I used the ink that I have been using for a few years now; Lamy Black. I then used three different papers to see how both inks performed on each. The results: There was virtually no difference between the inks both in darkness and in feathering performance. As it would seem Noodler’s X-Feather has no unique properties that prevent it from feathering. I will say that it is a nice performing ink, and the better water-resistant characteristics is the Lamy Black does not have. So in conclusion, if you are looking for an ink to stop feathering then we still need to wait for something, however if you want to have a good performing black ink then both Lamy Black and Noodler’s X-Feather are good choices.
  15. Any ideas? I like stubs, but a VP stub with pilot carts didnt work out. cheers,
  16. The L'Artisan Pastellier Callifolio inks I have stumbled upon are among the best regarding performance and of most interesting colours. Bleu Méditerranée is my favourite, although Atlantique and Equinoxe 6 are not far behind. Two different wet pens (BB and flexible F) on Leuchtturm. The shading, purity of the blue colour and the warm glow can be enchanting. It may not be suitable for official documents but I am ready to stand my ground. The ink is also extremely shy and well behaved and it stays on paper exactly where it should, without spreading and messing around. Bleu Méditerranée on Clairefountaine, Xerox Performer, Leuchtturm and Moleskine. The ink behaves exceptionally on all papers. Samples a and f were written with rather wet pens (BB and M/B). Surprisingly, the lines in the Moleskine notebook and on the Xerox copy sheet are still clearly defined and the colour stays pleasantly vibrant. Usually, colours on these two papers become flat and dull. The greater spread and feathering in b, c, d and e can be attributed to the extremely wet flexible pen which leaves puddles of ink. It took well over three minutes for the three-stripes to dry on Clairefountaine and Leuchtturm. Again, the performance of the ink on my super absorbent papers is way better than most I have ever used. It's rather an extreme setup but shows how brilliant the ink is and illustrates well the advantages of paper designed for the use with fountain pens. Callifolio Bleu Méditerranée is clearly exceptional but I can't really recommend it to everyone for two reasons: possibly insufficient lubrication and relatively low saturation. The ink appears dry and may make a pen feeling scratchy. Lower saturation will leave washed out colours in pens with more restricted flow. However, if someone likes the performance of Diamine Registrar's or Salix but strives for more exotic blue it's a great option.
  17. I would like to enlist the help of you pen ink connoisseurs. I would like to use a grey ink to take notes with for school ( I want keep colors like black and blue to outline important points) and I am not sure which inks would be the best to use on cheaper paper. I would of course be using a fine nib (Kaweco/bock, might try to get an extra fine nib not sure yet), but I'm not sure which grey inks have the best reputation for not feathering on lower quality paper. I'm not too worried about show through, because it being a lighter color it won't be too bad to look at. I want to stay away from extremely light (Gris Nuage) or anything that is close to black, something that is more graphite looking is preferable. Right now the biggest contender is Noodler's Lexington Grey but i'm not sure how well it works on cheap paper.
  18. I am looking for a fast drying blue or black ink that dries quickly and does not feather on cheap paper (mead, copy paper). I am currently using Noodler's bulletproof black with a fine nib metropolitan and although the ink doesn't feather, it takes quite a long time to dry, even on cheap absorbent paper; sometimes after leaving the ink to dry for a day, it still smears when rubbed. The only other ink I've tried is the pilot Namiki black that came with the metro, and that seems to dry fairly quickly, but feathers badly on cheap paper. Bulletproof ink isn't really important for me, any ink that works well with cheap paper and dries fast will do. I have considered Lamy, Quink, Waterman, and Pelikan inks, but I am not sure which one will work the best. Also, is there any ink that works well on whiteout tape? All on the pens I've tried including rollerballs smear horribly on whiteout. Thanks in advance.
  19. sidthecat

    Can A Wet Ink Be Made Drier?

    I got a jar of Tekker custom ink - the color is really nice but it's the wettest thing going! It hoses out of my old Watermans and blurs my writing on my otherwise-bulletproof Baron Fig notebook. Is there a substance that would make an ink write drier?
  20. I'm thinking of making some Tomoe River pads and/or notebooks? What would you like to see here in the UK and in Europe. Open to suggestion. A4? A5? Pads? Bound notepad? Let me know your thoughts..
  21. After parusing around for to long, I decided that questions like this go on a case by case basis. I am having problems with my writing feathering out on the page (by which I mean when I draw a line or write a character, the lines wick outwards and become way to thick, as well as wiskering in some cases), which makes it so many of my characters are illegible. I do all my writing on two things. I use National Brand computation notebooks for permanent things and blank white printer paper for all else. As a engineering student, I go through a lot of paper. I also much prefer to write on non-lined paper. Writing in the notebooks is fine. There is both very little wicking and wiskering. However writing on any other paper can vary from a huge success to a dramatic failure. Lucky for me my checkbook doesnt wick or wisker just like my notebooks. Untill now I had not though about different kinds of inks as a possible solution. It would be really nice to be able to write on every paper regardless of its type or quality. I have been using J Herbin eclat de saphir ink since I started writing primarily in pen. However this ink fades really fast with sunlight exposure. While searching for a solution, I also stumbled upon the concept of wet and dry pens, something I had not heard about beforehand. The pen I use is a Cross Spire with a fine nib. What would be a good ink that doesnt wick or wisker on any paper, which also lasts a long time? I much prefer blue inks. Or does such a thing not exist. Water resilience would also be a nice feature, but if im not mistaken that characteristic comes with not being able to wash it out right? -- Bob
  22. Other than changing paper or ink, any ideas for adding something to your ink to make it feather less.
  23. Recently saw an ad on Amazon for the Monsieur series of notebook. The two reviews of these books are not really enthusiastic. However, the books are made in Great Britian, have leather covers, and seem to be pretty decent for paper. Price is not bad either. So I bought one and here's what I noted about it: Good looking notebook, bought the sketch book since I like unlined paper. Tried my favorite Noodler inks and got good results. Noted that previous reviews compared Monsieur to Rhodia and (gasp) Moleskin. So used the same pens and inks in a Moleskin and a Clairefontaine (no Rhodia in hand), got comparable results. See next post for pictures of the comparison notebooks. What do you think? Comparable? Or not?
  24. Hi I've finally got everything I need to start making Tomoe River pads in the UK. I'll be making all the pads my self, to the same quality that I'd expect for my self. So question is, what would you like? I think making very ornate leatherbound notebooks will be beyond me, but factors such as number of sheets etc would be handy..!
  25. I used a dip nib with Stormy Grey this morning for the first time. Its a very very wet ink! It also feathered on Rhodia as a result. Based on experiments here https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/283167-glitteratipearlmica-and-e415/page-2 I trialled the Experiment 6 concentrate in J Herbin Stormy Grey. Here are the results. Pics of vial bases are just 1 min after shaking. In cases of direct comparison, the first pic is Stormy Grey a la naturel, the second pic is Stormy Grey x Xanthan concentrate blend. The Xanthan blend feathers less and offers far better gold distribution (where ink naturally pools from writing strokes, so does the gold, but it doesn't gold-dump like the original ink). Due to the viscosity change, you also get more letters out of one dip. Disclaimer: only use in a pen that can be fully dismantled for cleaning, and don't leave the blend in the pen unless you are ok with dry starts the next day or anything that might go wrong. Use at your own risk. Details of where the xanthan experiments are up to are in the linked thread. Dehydration tests beyond 57 hours haven't yet been done.





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