Request for Help to save older images from early FPN reviews

[amberleadavis]

Project restarted.

 

@Sandy1was one of our early members and her contributions were outstanding.  Here was a thread about 10 blue inks, all inks that are available and loved today.

 

 

Unfortunately, during our transition to the new platform and Photobucket's transformation, we have lost many of the images that were linked in the original reviews. I know that I have already spent hours updating some of my old threads - like the color threads in my signature line.  Today I spent an hour and I was able to resurrect the thread above.  I know that only a moderator can edit the messages, but any of you can copy the links into a new browser and save the images here on FPN.  Then, @lapis and I can update the posts.  

 

So, here is what has happened.

 

The images are listed like this:  

Waterman Florida Blue : from the 51, on the HPJ1124.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN Stuff - 2011/One Of The Ten OOTT Summary and Picks/4e6d3fa0.jpg. Because part of the URL is missing, the link does not work.  If you copy the entire link http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN Stuff - 2011/One Of The Ten OOTT Summary and Picks/4e6d3fa0.jpg into a new tab you can then see the image. Right click on the image and choose "save image as" - be sure to save the image with a name that makes sense.

 

Then, respond to the post and attach the image.  Please explain which image is attached - for example, I photo described as "Waterman Florida Blue : from the 51, on the HPJ1124"  I named WFB 51 HPJ1124 and included the description "Waterman Florida Blue : from the 51, on the HPJ1124" in the post.  You only need to respond to the thread and drop the image into the bottom of your post to attach a file.

 

Then upload the image to the Sandy1 album.  When it gets full, I'll make another album. 

 

 

Then create a new post in the original thread, and add the photo to a new post.

 

Thank you all for your help.

[LizEF]

Erm, but whoever does this uses up their attachment allotment and/or their gallery allotment.  (Seems only fair to point that out.)

 

Another option is to add the "s" after http, so that it becomes https... Here's an example:

 

https://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN Stuff - 2011/One Of The Ten OOTT Summary and Picks/4e6d3fa0.jpg

 

...and paste that into the editor window and let the window convert it to an image, like this:

 

 

Of course, it's still on photobucket, but with the "https" link, the image can be seen.

 

Equally "of course" is that if anyone out there removes or disable's Sandy's photobucket account, those links will also break, so uploading them to FPN is the best option.

[amberleadavis]

If you just do the "s" - when Sandy's photo bucket goes down, we will still lose the pictures. If you instead download them and upload them via the attachment, I can easily move the attachments to one of the FPN unlimited galleries.  @A Smug Dill may have an easier way for us to do this so I'm looping him in.  You may have to remove your attachments after I copy them over to free up your space.

 

Oh, and it's not just the "s", I have to fix the link because it does not reference the "http://i783." and you will also notice that your copy has the photobucket background, which the uploaded photos do not.  

[amberleadavis]

And @LizEF - thank you for responding and thinking about the topic!

[LizEF]

3 minutes ago, amberleadavis said:

You may have to remove your attachments after I copy them over to free up your space.

Actually, we don't have rights to remove either attachments or gallery content, so we'll need the mod to do that for us too, but as long as you're planning to do that, then there's no reason for us not to help.  If someone has rights to Sandy's photobucket and is willing to contact me privately, I could probably automate the downloading, possibly with file naming, and then we could put them all in a "Sandy" gallery and just connect them to the posts...

 

Anywho, I shall ponder a way to simplify this, but in the meantime, no reason for folks not to get started.

 

6 minutes ago, amberleadavis said:

Oh, and it's not just the "s", I have to fix the link because it does not reference the "http://i783." and you will also notice that your copy has the photobucket background, which the uploaded photos do not.  

Gotcha!

[LizEF]

In order to ensure people don't waste more time than necessary, I have the following proposals:

1. @amberleadavis, could you make a gallery in advance, and set it as one to which we all (or perhaps named volunteers, if you can do that) can add images?  Then those of us who choose to download and upload images can do so directly into that gallery, and you mods won't have to move the images.
2. I suggest that anyone willing to help post a link here to whichever of Sandy's topic they want to work on, then we don't duplicate effort.  Post the link before you start, and check here to ensure no one is already working on that one.

[amberleadavis]

@LizEF  Let me confirm here with you, if you can't delete, then how does it use your space? I thought the space limitation was on the prior server. Can you check this for me, I know that my posted available usage has not changed since we moved to the new server. I don't know if this is because I am a moderator.  Please let me know what you see.

[amberleadavis]

Sandy1's blues:

 

 

• Diamine Imperial Blue
  • http://www.fountainp...ost__p__1801602

  [*]Herbin Eclat de Saphir

  • http://www.fountainp...82#entry1665882

  [*]Montblanc Royal Blue

  • http://www.fountainp...anc-royal-blue/

  [*]Noodler's Ottoman Azure

  • http://www.fountainp...e/#entry1783713

  [*]Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue

  • http://www.fountainp...001-royal-blue/

  [*]Pilot asa-gao

  • http://www.fountainp...-pilot-asa-gao/

  [*]Private Reserve American Blue

  • http://www.fountainp...-american-blue/

  [*]Sheaffer Skrip Blue

  • http://www.fountainp...nia-production/

  [*]Visconti Blue

  • http://www.fountainp...-visconti-blue/

  [*]Waterman Florida Blue

  • http://www.fountainp...15#entry1869915

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Links to Comparisons

 

Includes reverse entries. e.g. A::B and B::A

 

1. Diamine Imperial Blue :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir http://www.fountainp...-imperial-blue/
2. Diamine Imperial Blue :: Montblanc Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...51#entry1832351
3. Diamine Imperial Blue :: Noodler's Ottoman Azure http://www.fountainp...85#entry1842785
4. Diamine Imperial Blue :: Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...-imperial-blue/
5. Diamine Imperial Blue :: Pilot asa-gao http://www.fountainp...12#entry1803812
6. Diamine Imperial Blue :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...27#entry1839627
7. Diamine Imperial Blue :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue http://www.fountainp...12#entry1814112
8. Diamine Imperial Blue :: Visconti Blue http://www.fountainp..._1#entry1805019
9. Diamine Imperial Blue :: Waterman Florida Blue http://www.fountainp...84#entry1965784
10. Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp...-imperial-blue/
11. Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Montblanc Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...72#entry1721872
12. Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Noodler's Ottoman Azure http://www.fountainp...67#entry1801267
13. Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...001-royal-blue/
14. Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Pilot asa-gao http://www.fountainp...clat-de-saphir/
15. Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...92#entry1761892
16. Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue http://www.fountainp...55#entry1671355
17. Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Visconti Blue http://www.fountainp...37#entry1702837
18. Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Waterman Florida Blue http://www.fountainp...n-florida-blue/
19. Montblanc Royal Blue :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp...51#entry1832351
20. Montblanc Royal Blue :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir http://www.fountainp...72#entry1721872
21. Montblanc Royal Blue :: Noodler's Ottoman Azure http://www.fountainp...07#entry1824307
22. Montblanc Royal Blue :: Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...28#entry1729128
23. Montblanc Royal Blue :: Pilot asa-gao http://www.fountainp...13#entry1716513
24. Montblanc Royal Blue :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...-american-blue/
25. Montblanc Royal Blue :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue http://www.fountainp...19#entry1718919
26. Montblanc Royal Blue :: Visconti Blue http://www.fountainp...anc-royal-blue/
27. Montblanc Royal Blue :: Waterman Florida Blue http://www.fountainp...ost__p__1899055
28. Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp...85#entry1842785
29. Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir http://www.fountainp...ison-eclat-de-saphir-noodlers-ottoman-azure/page__gopid__1801267#entry1801267
30. Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Montblanc Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...07#entry1824307
31. Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...ost__p__1802891
32. Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Pilot asa-gao http://www.fountainp...70#entry1794670
33. Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...67#entry1829767
34. Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue http://www.fountainp...71#entry1798671
35. Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Visconti Blue http://www.fountainp...09#entry1806509
36. Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Waterman Florida Blue http://www.fountainp...42#entry1887042
37. Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp...-imperial-blue/
38. Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir http://www.fountainp...001-royal-blue/
39. Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue :: Montblanc Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...28#entry1729128
40. Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue :: Noodler's Ottoman Azure http://www.fountainp...ost__p__1802891
41. Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue :: Pilot asa-gao http://www.fountainp...kan-royal-blue/
42. Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...89#entry1763989Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue http://www.fountainp...kan-royal-blue/
43. Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue :: Visconti Blue http://www.fountainp...65#entry1705865
44. Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue :: Waterman Florida Blue http://www.fountainp...n-florida-blue/Pilot asa-gao :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp...12#entry1803812
45. Pilot asa-gao :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp...12#entry1803812
46. Pilot asa-gao :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir http://www.fountainp...clat-de-saphir/
47. Pilot asa-gao :: Montblanc Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...13#entry1716513
48. Pilot asa-gao :: Noodler's Ottoman Azure http://www.fountainp...70#entry1794670
49. Pilot asa-gao :: Pelikan Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...kan-royal-blue/
50. Pilot asa-gao :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...-american-blue/
51. Pilot asa-gao :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue http://www.fountainp...fer-skrip-blue/
52. Pilot asa-gao :: Visconti Blue http://www.fountainp...27#entry1696527
53. Pilot asa-gao :: Waterman Florida Blue http://www.fountainp...e/#entry1877597
54. Private Reserve American Blue :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp...27#entry1839627
55. Private Reserve American Blue :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir http://www.fountainp...92#entry1761892
56. Private Reserve American Blue :: Montblanc Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...-american-blue/
57. Private Reserve American Blue :: Noodler's Ottoman Azure http://www.fountainp...67#entry1829767
58. Private Reserve American Blue :: Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...89#entry1763989
59. Private Reserve American Blue :: Pilot asa-gao http://www.fountainp...-american-blue/
60. Private Reserve American Blue :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue http://www.fountainp...93#entry1758593
61. Private Reserve American Blue :: Visconti Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...-american-blue/
62. Private Reserve American Blue :: Waterman Florida Blue http://www.fountainp...94#entry1908594
63. Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp...12#entry1814112
64. Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir http://www.fountainp...55#entry1671355
65. Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Montblanc Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...19#entry1718919
66. Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Noodler's Ottoman Azure http://www.fountainp...71#entry1798671
67. Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Pelikan Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...kan-royal-blue/
68. Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Pilot asa-gao http://www.fountainp...fer-skrip-blue/
69. Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...93#entry1758593
70. Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Visconti Blue http://www.fountainp...-visconti-blue/
71. Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Waterman Florida Blue http://www.fountainp...ost__p__1938063
72. Visconti Blue :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp..._1#entry1805019
73. Visconti Blue :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir http://www.fountainp...37#entry1702837
74. Visconti Blue :: Montblanc Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...anc-royal-blue/
75. Visconti Blue :: Noodler's Ottoman Azure http://www.fountainp...09#entry1806509
76. Visconti Blue :: Pelikan Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...65#entry1705865
77. Visconti Blue :: Pilot asa-gao http://www.fountainp...27#entry1696527
78. Visconti Royal Blue :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...-american-blue/
79. Visconti Blue :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue http://www.fountainp...-visconti-blue/
80. Visconti Blue :: Waterman Florida Blue http://www.fountainp...ost__p__1893139
81. Visconti Royal Blue :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...-american-blue/
82. Waterman Florida Blue :: Diamine Imperial Blue http://www.fountainp...84#entry1965784
83. Waterman Florida Blue :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir http://www.fountainp...n-florida-blue/
84. Waterman Florida Blue :: Montblanc Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...ost__p__1899055
85. Waterman Florida Blue :: Noodler's Ottoman Azure http://www.fountainp...42#entry1887042
86. Waterman Florida Blue :: Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue http://www.fountainp...n-florida-blue/
87. Waterman Florida Blue :: Pilot asa-gao http://www.fountainp...e/#entry1877597
88. Waterman Florida Blue :: Private Reserve American Blue http://www.fountainp...94#entry1908594
89. Waterman Florida Blue :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue http://www.fountainp...ost__p__1938063
90. Waterman Florida Blue :: Visconti Blue http://www.fountainp...ost__p__1893139

 

Links to incidental Comparisons:

 

• Diamine ASA Blue :: Pilot asa-gao
  • https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/164484-comparison-pilot-asa-gao-diamine-a-s-a-blue/

  [*] Noodler's Ottoman Azure :: Pilot asa-gao

  • https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/165687-comparison-noodlers-ottoman-azure-pilot-asa-gao/

  [*] Caran d'Ache Blue Sky :: Sheaffer Skrip Blue

  • https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/162417-comparison-caran-d-ache-blue-sky-sheaffer-skrip-blue/

  [*] Sheaffer Skrip Blue :: Pilot Blue (bottle)

  • https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/163020-comparison-pilot-blue-sheaffer-skrip-blue/

  [*] Private Reserve Cosmic Cobalt :: Herbin Eclat de Saphir

  • https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/158629-comparison-pr-cosmic-cobalt-herbin-eclat-de-saphir/

  [*] Herbin Eclat de Saphir :: Diamine Sapphire

  • https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/160423-diamine-sapphire-compared-with-herbin-eclat-de-saphir/

  [*] Visconti Blue :: Pilot kon-peki (SWABS ONLY)

  • https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/170184-comparison-visconti-blue-pilot-kon-peki/

  [*] Pilot asa-gao :: Visconti Blue

  • https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/169538-comparison-pilot-asa-gao-visconti-blue/page__gopid__1696527#entry1696527

  [*] Private Reserve, American Blue :: DC Supershow Blue

  • https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/158771-comparison-p-r-american-blue-d-c-supershow-blue/

 

[amberleadavis]

Oh and @LizEF we don't have any sort of admin or user access to Sandy1's photobucket account.  It just happens to still be up, which is why I'd like to hurry.

[LizEF]

1 minute ago, amberleadavis said:

@LizEF  Let me confirm here with you, if you can't delete, then how does it use your space? I thought the space limitation was on the prior server. Can you check this for me, I know that my posted available usage has not changed since we moved to the new server. I don't know if this is because I am a moderator.  Please let me know what you see.

We mortals have a limited amount of space allowed for "attachments" - the thing where you drag and drop at the bottom of the post window: 48.83 MB is all - that's pretty small.  When we go to look at our "attachments", there is no option to delete, edit or anything else.  So, if I upload one of Sandy's images into my attachments, it uses up a portion of my 48.83 MB.  Now, if you move the file out of my attachments to some other location, then I assume it makes some of my space available again.

 

Similarly, I'm allowed 50 galleries with 100 images per gallery.  If I make a gallery and put 100 of Sandy's images into it, that's 1 fewer gallery I can use for my own purposes.  Again, if a mod / admin moves the images out, then I recover my gallery, but there are two problems unique to galleries:

1. You're only allowed to edit it for so long, so if I create one now, use it for Sandy's images, then it takes 6 months to move all those images out, I may lose the ability to edit my gallery.  (The good news in this particular use case is that, as I understand it, uploading an image into the gallery would allow me to edit it - though I'm not sure if it would allow me to edit the title or only the description.)
2. More important, by far, is that if you move an image - out of my attachments, or out of my gallery, it would break the link that I put into Sandy's thread!!  Now we'd have more broken links before regaining the images in her threads.

Given the above, it just seems far easier for everyone (less redundant work) if an FPN gallery (or as many as needed) could be made ahead of time, and volunteers put Sandy's images into that gallery, then link them from there into the new thread.  The no one has to lose their own space and no one has to move any images.  We just need volunteers to fetch the images.

[LizEF]

5 minutes ago, amberleadavis said:

Oh and @LizEF we don't have any sort of admin or user access to Sandy1's photobucket account.  It just happens to still be up, which is why I'd like to hurry.

I figured it was a longshot, but had to check as it would speed everything dramatically.    (Of course, so would giving me access to the database (even just SELECT access), but I don't think Wim will go for that...

 

(With SELECT access to the database, I could query out all her photobucket URLs, along with the thread to which they belong, then use regular expression to write some sort of fetch command for all of them, and automate most of the process...)

[LizEF]

PS, for the convenience of anyone interested in helping, the following search will get you all of Sandy's posts (both topic and reply) in the Ink Reviews subforum which contain "photobucket.com".

 

Search for posts with images

[amberleadavis]

I don't see a way to make my Sandy1 gallery available and I don't see a way to create an unlimited gallery for everyone to use.  So, should I create a dropbox account?  I'll also post this to the admin's and ask for help.

 

I figured it out. I was able to change the album so anyone can add to it. 

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/gallery/album/358-sandy1/

[A Smug Dill]

1 hour ago, amberleadavis said:

@A Smug Dill may have an easier way for us to do this so I'm looping him in. 

 

You're a lawyer and I'm not, so for the purpose of this discussion, I'll just omit questions concerning intellectual property rights, and issues arising from (potential breach of) Photobucket's terms of service with which , etc. and only address the technical aspects.

 

1 hour ago, amberleadavis said:

So, here is what has happened.

 

The images are listed like this:  

Waterman Florida Blue : from the 51, on the HPJ1124.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN Stuff - 2011/One Of The Ten OOTT Summary and Picks/4e6d3fa0.jpg. Because part of the URL is missing, the link does not work.  If you copy the entire link http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN Stuff - 2011/One Of The Ten OOTT Summary and Picks/4e6d3fa0.jpg into a new tab you can then see the image. Right click on the image and choose "save image as" - be sure to save the image with a name that makes sense.

 

Theoretically, someone could write a quick-and-dirty script, in a language such as Perl or AWK that makes extensive use of regular expressions, to parse @Sandy1's posts in threads she started, to extract all the Photobucket URLs, and create a table containing information along the lines of:

(Column A) https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/179174-diamine-imperial-blue/?do=findComment&comment=1801602

(Column B) thread-179174-comment-1801602-figure-1.jpg

(Column C) https://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/InkyThoughts2010/INK576-1.jpg

 

A script can then use the wget command (in Linux, or if the package is installed, OS X, or cygwin on Windows, etc.) can then be used to retrieve each image file from Photobucket's server and place it into local storage.

 

Then, an FPN user can upload up to 100 images at a time into an Image Gallery album, using those filenames in Column B; that should provide enough of a context/reference to tell someone which image should go where.

 

As long as consecutive retrievals are sufficiently spaced out by random wait time, it should not trigger defence mechanisms against denial of service, although one's IP address may still end up being blacklisted by the host/server.

 

…

 

I have not figured out what is causing Photobucket's image server to inject watermarks. It's not (just) HTTP vs HTTPS; and it's not (just) whether “i783.” in included in the URL. The same URL, https://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/InkyThoughts2010/INK576-1.jpg (with or without the ‘s’ at the end of “http”), will bring up an image without the Photobucket watermark, in a browser tab. Retrieving it using the wget command results in an image with the watermark. I've quickly tried putting in a ‑‑referer option (although it wouldn't make sense to require one, given what was observed by just pasting the URL into the address bar in a new browser tab) and a  ‑‑user-agent option in the command, but that hasn't fooled Photobucket's server. Someone will need to figure out which parameters will trigger the watermark (or, rather, which will avoid it).

 

[amberleadavis]

@LizEF would you please give it a try.

 

OOPs, would you please try uploading an image.

[LizEF]

1 minute ago, amberleadavis said:

I don't see a way to make my Sandy1 gallery available and I don't see a way to create an unlimited gallery for everyone to use.  So, should I create a dropbox account?  I'll also post this to the admin's and ask for help.

No, no dropbox.  Two options:

1. Even I can create a gallery to which everyone can add images - it's just a setting / option when creating / editing a gallery - it's a checkbox.  If there's a generic account for moderators to use for this kind of thing, then that's the place to put it.  But perhaps only Wim can do this.
2. If you have sufficient rights, you could just change Sandy1's password (and/or email address on the account), log in as Sandy1 and create a few galleries for this purpose - that seems like the best way.

[LizEF]

3 minutes ago, amberleadavis said:

@LizEF would you please give it a try.

Give what a try?  Creating a gallery to which everyone can add images?  I already know how to do it, my hesitations are as mentioned previously:

1. Losing some (one won't be enough) of my 50 galleries (which I expect to use eventually for EFNIRs)
2. If we start out using my galleries, and you later move the images from my gallery to another, you'll break any and all links people created to said images
3. That move would be wasted effort - better to take the time upfront to figure out a good way to create a gallery that doesn't have to be changed and from which images don't have to be removed.

Note that folks can start downloading images now (and "claiming" Sandy's threads here as previously suggested) and just wait a few hours or a day or two) to upload them once we get the target galleries created here.

[A Smug Dill]

Just now, LizEF said:

Give what a try?

 

Try uploading into Amber's now-public gallery.

[LizEF]

8 minutes ago, A Smug Dill said:

You're a lawyer and I'm not, so for the purpose of this discussion, I'll just omit questions concerning intellectual property rights, and issues arising from (potential breach of) Photobucket's terms of service with which , etc. and only address the technical aspects.

Good point!

[LizEF]

3 minutes ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

Try uploading into Amber's now-public gallery.

Oh.  Well, I'll need to go get one of Sandy's images.   [---nope, new problem-----]