Inky T O D - Color Swatches - Blue/black - Please Post Your Pictures And Tell Us Your Thoughts

[AndyYNWA]

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Almost as odd as my new Lamy nib marked "F" writing this wide. Blah.

 

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I also have a Lamy that is marked "F", but writes like an "M". Even on high quality paper.

I assume it's the quality control of Lamy that has some things to work on.

[perfaddict]

 

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How i wish Salix stayed this shade permanently. All this beauty morphs to grey-black eventually

[craigs63]

 

 

I also have a Lamy that is marked "F", but writes like an "M". Even on high quality paper.

I assume it's the quality control of Lamy that has some things to work on.

Yeah, the nib making guy is okay, but the F nib stamping guy is a little over-enthusiastic and stamps everything with an "F".

[bioluminescentsquid]

 

How i wish Salix stayed this shade permanently. All this beauty morphs to grey-black eventually

It's a fading problem with the blue dye, isn't it?

[KyleKatarn]

It's a fading problem with the blue dye, isn't it?

No, it's because it is an iron gall ink. These inks get darker and darker over the years — from Wikipedia:

 

«The gradual darkening of the ink is due to the oxidation of the iron ions from ferrous (Fe2+) to ferric (Fe3+) state by atmospheric oxygen. (For that reason, the liquid ink had to be stored in a well-stoppered bottle, and often became unusable after a time.) The ferric ions react with the tannic acid or some derived compound (possibly gallic acid or pyrogallol) to form a polymeric organometallic compound.»

[HalloweenHJB]

Exactly. The chemical reaction of IG ink does not stop when it dries, making the current fad over IG inks even more inexplicable to me...

[amberleadavis]

Craig, thanks for the ink. Liz, I'm with you that Sheaffer #22 is nice.

[Noihvo]

No, it's because it is an iron gall ink. These inks get darker and darker over the years — from Wikipedia:

 

«The gradual darkening of the ink is due to the oxidation of the iron ions from ferrous (Fe2+) to ferric (Fe3+) state by atmospheric oxygen. (For that reason, the liquid ink had to be stored in a well-stoppered bottle, and often became unusable after a time.) The ferric ions react with the tannic acid or some derived compound (possibly gallic acid or pyrogallol) to form a polymeric organometallic compound.»

 

I don't have the complete iron-gall library of knowledge, but is it not true that the "pure" iron-gall component of the inks is completely transparent when lain down, and then (within seconds) darken into the colour we all know and love? The blue (or other colour, in the case of KWZI) is just common aniline dye that helps you see the ink as you lay it down. Please correct me if I am mistaken, I am very curious about IGs and like them a lot.

[akustyk]

Here are three of mine currently inked up:

 

[jmccarty3]

The Sailor Kobe #51 is an awesome midnight blue.

[AndyYNWA]

The Sailor Kobe #51 is an awesome midnight blue.

+1

[amberleadavis]

And my every day ink: Dromgoole's Blue Steel.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Inklings/slides/2013-Ink_747b.jpg

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[Flaxmoore]

 

 

I also have a Lamy that is marked "F", but writes like an "M". Even on high quality paper.

I assume it's the quality control of Lamy that has some things to work on.

 

I've an EF that writes as broad if not broader than my Pilot Ms.

[AndyYNWA]

 

I've an EF that writes as broad if not broader than my Pilot Ms.

Interesting with the QC at Lamy. My daughter has a Safari F that write like an F, but mine is not even close... Quite big deviations...

[akustyk]

The Hero 232 is an excellent ink, though still somewhat under the radar. I had mixed luck ordering it from China, but the most recent order came without any spills.

 

[TSherbs]

The Hero 232 is an excellent ink, though still somewhat under the radar. I had mixed luck ordering it from China, but the most recent order came without any spills.

 

 

I like it, too.

[akustyk]

I've used Pelikan Blue-Black for years. I still consider it a great, classic BB. Montblanc Midnight Blue IG is unmatched, in my opinion, by anything made today. The new formulation is not nearly as good, but not bad, if you're in the mood for a somewhat muted ink. I am not the first person to fall in love with KWZ inks. The IG Blue-Black is a fantastic ink.

 

[AndyYNWA]

I've used Pelikan Blue-Black for years. I still consider it a great, classic BB. Montblanc Midnight Blue IG is unmatched, in my opinion, by anything made today. The new formulation is not nearly as good, but not bad, if you're in the mood for a somewhat muted ink. I am not the first person to fall in love with KWZ inks. The IG Blue-Black is a fantastic ink.

 

Take a look at Kobe #23 Nagata Blue, quite close to the old MB Midnight Blue IG. At least the colour.

[craigs63]

Picked up a bottle at Paradise Pen (store closing sale - a 30ml bottle for $4, normally $8) of Paradise Pen "Black Blue". I love this color, but admittedly this doesn't look like what I had in my mind. Veering into grayish and a little on the teal side? Starts out pretty black (pictured writing below, is about a day apart).

I need to put my Pilot Iroshizuku Syo-ro Pine Tree Dew into a pen again, because this almost reminds me of it, from what I remember.

 

Pic: "Field Notes" paper, iPhone 6+ camera, indoor sunlight.

 

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I want to change my thoughts on my black/blue Paradise Pens ink. It seems to me now, that when I first start writing, it's almost pure black, then later writing (within a second or so) is the bluish/greyish color. I wonder if I'm seeing some partially dried/oxidized ink from the nib at first?

Edited April 2, 2016 by craigs63

[akustyk]