How to determine production date on a #146

[PlaneJane13]

Hi Tim,

 

No, it definitely never hurts to ask! Unfortunately, this one has been sold.

 

Thanks, anyway.

 

 

Janet

[Kalessin]

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Thank you.

[JaxDove]

"Incidentally, I have a Classique marked W Germany on the clip + serial number so there are a few around...

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Yes, my 146 is marked "MONTBLANC MEISTERSTUCK No.146" on the cap ring, and "W.-GERMANY" "GB122xxx" on the clip ring. 14K 2-tone nib and greyish, unstriped window. (The book which came with it shows a striped window!)

 

I guess there were various combinations around at about he time of unification....or it could, I s'pose be a Frankenpen!

[JaxDove]

I am trying to date my own and I have this exact same combination. Any ideas on the date??

[Kalessin]

MB used parts until they were gone, so some post-reunification parts were marked W-Germany

[Frannyg]

Hi - I’m new here and hoping to get some help with pens I inherited from my dad. The first one is a Montblanc Meisterstuck 146. I believe it is a vintage model because it has 146 engraved on the piston filler end of the barrel. It also has an F engraved on the other side of the barrel. It has NO engraving on the clip ring – so no Germany or W. Germany or serial number. The NIB is 4810 14 C two tone. I’m including some photos. Can someone help me with the date of manufacture? Thank you so much!

[CS388]

Nice pen.

 

It's a celluloid 146, probably from the 1950's. A highly prized piece, these days - and one of the best writers they ever made, imho. There are a few details which may tell us if it's from the earlier stages of production, such as the feed type ...

 

... but you may get more results by starting a new thread, as this thread is very old and has wandered somewhat, since talkinghead started it in 2008. (I enjoyed reading it again, though.)

 

Enjoy.

[Frannyg]

Thank you! I will repost in a new thread.

[AleAli]

Hi - I’m new here and hoping to get some help with pens I inherited from my dad. The first one is a Montblanc Meisterstuck 146. I believe it is a vintage model because it has 146 engraved on the piston filler end of the barrel. It also has an F engraved on the other side of the barrel. It has NO engraving on the clip ring – so no Germany or W. Germany or serial number. The NIB is 4810 14 C two tone. I’m including some photos. Can someone help me with the date of manufacture? Thank you so much!

That's a fantastic pen

[AleAli]

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Thank you.

That's very helpful info for a newbie like me. Thank you for sharing.

[teH_ReALDeadPoole]

On 8/11/2008 at 3:58 AM, georges zaslavsky said:

Your pen is certainly an older stock 146. Because in 1986 the firm switched to the new "precious resin" and clear windows were continuing their appearance as they were reintroduced in 1976-1977 . Concerning the nib, I said that the 14k585 duotone nib appeared in 1993-1994. The nib in the 80's was a yellow gold available in 14cts for US markets and 18cts for European markets.

Has anyone ever come across a W.Germany 146 monotone 14K gold nib stamped 686?  I haven't been able to find much detail on that nib, and generally only see 585s.  Thanks! 

 

EDIT: Please disregard. The photo I was looking at was blurry and the nib does indeed state "585"

Edited May 12, 2021 by teH_ReALDeadPoole

[maxgroebel]

On 1/9/2019 at 12:16 AM, Frannyg said:

Hi - I’m new here and hoping to get some help with pens I inherited from my dad. The first one is a Montblanc Meisterstuck 146. I believe it is a vintage model because it has 146 engraved on the piston filler end of the barrel. It also has an F engraved on the other side of the barrel. It has NO engraving on the clip ring – so no Germany or W. Germany or serial number.

 

This is a never ending story. High time to explain the politics behind it. In the 50's and 60's West Germany did not officially recognize East Germany. So, officially East Germany did not exist in the West German eyes. That is why early Montblancs are just marked Germany. This changed in June, 1973 when the Basic Treaty went into force and diplomatic relations were established. But Montblanc probably had spare parts to use up, andmaybe other considerations, so they did not start marking the pens W.-Germany until around 1980. Then came the reunification and Montblanc had to go back to just marking them as Germany. But they probably still had some parts to use up