Advice/Help needed - Fake (163) Montblanc?

[Argz]

Hi all, I hope you're doing great. A newbie into the writing instruments world, not a collector, I just like to have nice/comfortable writing tools I do journal, and having a good pen makes the process of writing way more enjoyable and personal.

 

Context:

 

 1. Saw an eBay listing, proceeded to buy since returns were accepted. It had a major redflag, the box, it is an obvious fake (mismatched logos, colors and the packaging itself). The pen itself looked good enough, so I was willing to burn just a few bucks in order to check whether or not the pen was real (if it weren't real, I could just, can, return it). 

 

3. The pen itself: I can't properly date the pen, no Pix logo anywhere, no engraving on the clip. It does "glow" cherryish when lights go through it (both body and cap), the serial number pops nothing when I Google it, there is a scratch on the pen's lower(upper?) part, I'd figue if lacqer scractched that way it would be genuine (but couldn't find any images online of scratched lacquer).  The snowcap has a little unevenness to it. If I were to slide my nail around it, I can catch a small bump, not all around it but just on the vertexes near the clip, there is also a bend on the band.

 

2. There is a pen shop I had access to (MB authorized dealer by the way), went in and asked whether or not the pen was genuine, the person who I spoke to grabbed the pen, looked at it, used a magnyfing glass on the clip, tried a MB rollerball cartdridge on the pen, and gave me an verdict (professioanl opinion?), it is real. I have my doubts since he told me, the ultimate test is a cartridge, if it fits, then the pen is real, if not, then it is not... By now, I've read multiple posts and threads, seen a bunch of videos, where it is stated that newer generations of replicas are quite good and actually do match some qualities only genuine products would have years ago.

 

Either a genuine really old 163 or an old fake 163? What's your take on it? I would appreciate your educated comments on the matter.

 

Thank you for your time, I wish you all the best.

[meiers]

Your pen could be authentic. I want to add that the “cartridge test” is not fool proof.  

[VacNut]

I don’t collect MB, but is it common to take a MB apart so easily? The clip and inner cap isn’t secured in any way?

[meiers]

15 minutes ago, VacNut said:

I don’t collect MB, but is it common to take a MB apart so easily? The clip and inner cap isn’t secured in any way?

This rollerball pen can be easily disassembled. 

[Opooh]

It is not a new pen, the fakes I have seen before were in mint condition. And there is the MB shopkeeper who finds it genuine after scrutinising. 

[meiers]

9 hours ago, Opooh said:

It is not a new pen, the fakes I have seen before were in mint condition. And there is the MB shopkeeper who finds it genuine after scrutinising. 

I agree.