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Do you believe that some ink makers comes out with "limited editions" inks for the purpose of causing people to hurry up and buy their product? After all, because of our "sinful nature," we do really like to have things that other people do not and can not have!" --- Just a little "ink" and "theology issues" there! Your thoughts, please.

 

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I was wondering what's an "Editiona" ??

 

 

 

Anyway... I think there is every conceivable reason why a manufacturer will come up with an LE ink.

 

In no particular order...

 

1. Want to make money from people with little self control.. ;-)

2. Limited/Expensive to source dyes

3. Trying to "mark" a milestone, or showcase an exclusive or rare event

4. For the "heck" of it.

 

 

Those are my main thoughts... I am sure there are a hundred more reasons.

 

 

 

C.

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I think it creates urgency and a willingness to pay more. And it seems to work for the most part if the product is half-way decent and is actually limited.

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Hi Charles,

 

I know as a general rule, I avoid them, even though I regret missing out on Lamy's lilac last year and will try to get their Petrol this year. :huh:

 

That said, I GENERALLY try to avoid them... why get hooked on a color you can't replace?

 

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Exactly. Since the inks will only be available for a limited time, why bother with them? If you get to like one of these inks, you will be hunting around for a substitute ink when you run out. I am now thinking that I should have stayed with blue black exclusively.

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

 

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Some inks are made for fundraisers or commorations of specific events. I support those. I've also seen limited editions because supplies to make the ink are limited. However, since not all inks are made in infinite quantities, aren't all inks limited? PSP was not a limited edition ink, but it's not commercially available any longer.

 

So, I'm happy to have my bottles of PSP, King Phillips' Requiem, Proctor's Ledge and KTC even if I get addicted and can't replace them.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Sometimes it's a marketing gimmick, whether it's fountain pens or Oreos, and the life is limited to the time sales remain above a certain point. Others are runs where the amount to be manufactured is set in advance, and that's the end. That I would call a marketing tactic, because the whole point of all the products is to generate sales. There's no point suffering increased costs without recouping the investment. The name they put on the product, whether a milestone, partnership, etc is ultimately done to generate sales and usually isn't relevant to the product itself. The new MB/UNICEF ink is a great example. Sure, they could have partnered with some local charity that could really use the money (not to imply that UNICEF doesn't need money) but outside of that area, no one would care...fewer sales.

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Some inks are made for fundraisers or commorations of specific events. I support those. I've also seen limited editions because supplies to make the ink are limited. However, since not all inks are made in infinite quantities, aren't all inks limited? PSP was not a limited edition ink, but it's not commercially available any longer.

 

So, I'm happy to have my bottles of PSP, King Phillips' Requiem, Proctor's Ledge and KTC even if I get addicted and can't replace them.

 

I think you ought to be able to come close to the same ink. As an example, for Lamy Dark Lilac, someone suggested De Atrementis Aubergine. I bought a bottle of the Aubergine, compared the two and it is so close I can't tell the difference.

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

 

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Do you believe that some ink makers comes out with "limited editions" inks for the purpose of causing people to hurry up and buy their product? After all, because of our "sinful nature," we do really like to have things that other people do not and can not have!" --- Just a little "ink" and "theology issues" there! Your thoughts, please.

 

C. S.

 

I think it's a personal attack to make me miserable.

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

 

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I think it's a personal attack to make me miserable.

 

I've often thought that. ;)

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think you ought to be able to come close to the same ink. As an example, for Lamy Dark Lilac, someone suggested De Atrementis Aubergine. I bought a bottle of the Aubergine, compared the two and it is so close I can't tell the difference.

 

 

If you can't get KPR, try Saguaro Wine with some Ghost Blue?

 

I agree about many inks, but I still can't replace the Armageddon-Proof qualities of KTC - and you know I want it to look like BSB. Thank goodness NT has been able to make more KTC. As for most LEs, I think it's a plot against Panjaro (see above).

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm surprised that it has not been said yet, but a limited run would be a good start to test what the market likes in addition to all the other responses.

 

McDonald restaurants do this all the time. They run limited run menu items in certain regions to see how the public reacts to it. Their "regions" could range from a single McDonald restaurant to an entire country for limited run menu items.

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The paper on "reactance" mentioned by Empty_of_Clouds in The Great P51/L2k thread is relevant here, validating the notion of creating demand through apparently limited supply.

 

If they were doing test marketing and released the popular ones into production, I would not mind the LE.

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I, personally, love LE inks. It expands the range of colors & sometimes adds interesting bottles. Since I have a lot of ink & have a more limited time of living left, 2-3 bottles are more than a lifetime supply.

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Yes, of course it's ALL marketing - BUT, it helps keep the ink(pen) companies in the black.

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... it helps keep the ink(pen) companies in the black.

That's what I wish an ink company would come out with... a LE black.

 

:rolleyes:

 

- Anthony

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I, personally, love LE inks. It expands the range of colors & sometimes adds interesting bottles.

 

 

I'm with you on this. The pleasure of a special ink —possibly in a special bottle— is more than worth it. In my view, just experience the joy of the moment, and don't worry about whether you can get more, more, MORE! in the future.

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...just experience the joy of the moment...

Hi Halloween,

 

Actually, there's a lot to be said for this attitude and it much better reflects the attitude I used to have before the world gave me seven warehouses to manage. :)

 

You might have got me to do complete 180 on the subject and reclaim the zeal and zest for life that I used to have about everything. :)

 

Thank you.

 

- Anthony

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Hi Halloween,

 

Actually, there's a lot to be said for this attitude and it much better reflects the attitude I used to have before the world gave me seven warehouses to manage. :)

 

You might have got me to do complete 180 on the subject and reclaim the zeal and zest for life that I used to have about everything. :)

 

Thank you.

 

- Anthony

 

 

Anthony:

 

Much obliged. My pleasure.

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