Help In Identifying A Montblanc Meisterstuck

[paulobarata]

Hello all,

 

Could someone kindly help me to identify these Montblanc Meisterstuck?

Thanks very much

Edited March 5, 2016 by paulobarata

[jar]

Hi, unfortunately those look like fakes.

[paulobarata]

Really? I bought them from a reputable german Auction House!!

[CS388]

If they came from a reputable auction house (and were listed as genuine Montblanc), you should be able to claim a refund, on the grounds that the items were misrepresented.

 

That is assuming that they are fakes.

They do look suspicious to me, but, of course, they may be a special/rare model, which I've never seen before.

 

Could you share the description of these pens, from the auction house?

[jar]

I hope I am wrong (believe it or not it would not be the first time) but I really fear that I am not.

 

They are fake 144s and the cap bands on the 144 are three separate bands. The clip is not folded metal but rather forged.

 

Hopefully others will also comment and better detailed pictures would help.

[paulobarata]

First, thanks for your help.

 

I haven't received them yet. As I haven't paid for it yet, I'll just write to them to ask for clarification on its authenticity.

 

The description is in german:

 

Montblanc-Schreibset, Füller und Kugelschreiber Meisterstück in sehr guter Erhaltung. Die
Mine muss erneuert werden. Füllfeder gestempelt 4810. In der Original Montblanc-Schatulle.

 

It says: Montblanc pen-set, Fountain pen and ballpoint Meisterstuck in very good condition. Needs refill. Nib stamped 4810. In original Montblanc box.

 

You'd think that a German auction house would know about Montblanc fakes!

 

They looked genuine to me because the ring (albeit being solid) has a distinctive and separate gold and silver parts to it, and there's some engraving on the resin of the barrel of the fountain pen, but I've been looking through the internet and I can't find anything similar (not even fakes!).

 

Very strange... I thought initially it would be some of their Tribute editions.

[ingolf]

These "Montblancs" are fakes.

 

You might take a look at http://www.fountainpen.de/. There you´ll find very good pictures of older and newer Montblanc Meisterstück pens.

[CS388]

...snip...

 

I haven't received them yet. As I haven't paid for it yet, I'll just write to them to ask for clarification on its authenticity.

 

 

Good idea.

 

The description clearly indicates that they are genuine, so the law is on your side if they turn out not to be so.

 

Let us know how they reply.

 

Good luck.

[paulobarata]

Thank you for your help.

 

I had a look previously to fountainpen.de and sure enough they weren't there, but I believe they don't have every pen by Montblanc.

[salesguy]

I've never seen that design. When you get them, do they have serial numbers engraved on the clip band? Is 'pix' visible on the underside of the clip?

 

I agree with others here, my money would be on fakes

 

When you get them, take them to a store & you will get certainty on which to make your claim against the auction house - if you need to.

[zaddick]

Based on the cap rings and the nib, they look fake to me. I'd back out if you can.

[Parth P]

I think that they are fakes. I am coming to this assumption because of the bands. I have never seen another Montblanc like that before.

[paulobarata]

Thank you all for your help. Much appreciated!

[paulobarata]

Dear all, just to end this topic, I've had confirmation from the auction house regarding these Montblanc:

 

thank you very much for your message.

Followed by your inquiry, we had a specialist investigating the authenticity of the Montblanc pens earlier this morning.

Unfortunately, we must inform you that your friend was right and that these Montblanc pens are replicas.

We are very sorry for this inconvenience.

Naturally you are not bound to your bid in this case and do not have to purchase the lot.

Again, we would like to apologize for the inconvenience caused.

Best regards,

 

 

Thank you all for your help and be on the outlook for such fakes - even from reputable auction houses :-(

 

Rgds to all

[fuchsiaprincess]

Yay for FPN members

[jar]

Really sorry it turned out that way, was hoping I was wrong again.

[SE1980]

It does indeed look fake to me at first glance as well. The tone of gold seem incorrect too.

[CS388]

Well done. that's a good result.

 

And you still have your money, to buy more pens. Win/win!

 

Enjoy.

[paulobarata]

Indeed! I ended up buying a Cartier Pasha for € 250 :-)

Thanks everybody. Really appreciate all the help!