Sailor 1911S With 21K Nib?

[KostyaKev]

So online I found Sailor Profit Standard (I presume the same as 1911S) with a 21k nib, with a price that is (obviously) more expensive than 1911S 14k but cheaper than 1911L. So now I'm not sure what to get.

 

I like slim pens, but then is 1911S lower quality than 1911L? Is there a difference between 14k and 21k nibs? What do you recommend I get?

(1911L is like the upper bound of my budget, so 1911S, 14k or 21k, would save me an appreciable amount of money)

[Aurko]

No, it's not that it is necessarily of lower quality. Both the 1911S and the 1911L are very good writers; the 1911S with the 21k nib is actually called the Profit Standard 21 in Japan, and basically has the body of a 1911S and writes like a 1911L. It is meant to be in between.

 

The 1911S and 1911L write very similarly, with the 1911L feeling just a tad more precise, and a touch smoother. The 1911S is pretty well built, and certainly will not fall apart on you. However, it is a little thin for many people, though it is my preferred pen width actually. I have both the 1911S, 1911L, and Pro Gear Slim, and Pro Gear full size, and for extended writing I prefer the 1911S by far.

 

 

Personally I would say you can't go wrong with the 1911S, Standard21, or the 1911 Full size. If you are on a budget, I recommend that you start with the 1911S. It really is a wonderful little pen and one of the few pens that I own multiples of.

 

 

ADDENDUM: if you have large hands AND you hate posting your pens, go for the 1911L. The 1911S has perfect balance when posted [was actually designed to be posted], but the 1911L also has great balance posted but has the bonus of being usable unposted to those with larger hands.

[rutherfordr]

They're the same quality. The practical difference between them is that 1911S is a little shorter and thinner than the 1911L.

 

So it really depends on which one fits you better. If the 1911S is too small to be comfortable, you won't like it no matter how nice the nib is.

 

I love the way gold nibs feel, so much so that I don't buy steel nibs any more, but I can't tell the difference between the 14k and the 21k Sailor nibs -- they feel the same to me.

[KBeezie]

If the 1911S is the same as the 1911M (which is also called a standard), then I thought that the nibs on the 1911M (14K) were physically a different size and shape, as such not only is the pen shorter but so is the nib (the nib on the 1911M is interchangeable with the Pro Gear Slim [sapporo] and Slim Mini [sapporo Mini], but those pens can't take the 21K nibs as they won't fit on the feed)

[eyesa]

I bought what's called a Sailor Profit Standard 21 with a 21k gold M nib on Amazon

from a Japanese seller. I have medium sized woman's hands and I find it fits perfectly in my hand, even un-posted. It is a favorite of mine and if I could get it in more colors (other than black) I would prefer it over my 3776's. The M nib wrote smoothly out of the box and the pen feels expertly made, but I can see where the size wouldn't be for everyone who has larger hands or like larger pens. To my mind it's more exacting a writer than the 3776's and the Pilot Custom 74, but that's my personal experience. I haven't tried the 1911L since I'm so pleased with this

tight little writer.

[Moynihan]

I have the 1911/Profit standard or medium and the 1911 Large, all in 21k and M in each and Zoom in each. The only difference is size, the 1911 Large being slightly thicker and it is longer.

They feel different in the hand, With the smaller one feeling kind of like the average or standard size in vintage pen days.

The smaller one's length is just smaller enough to be uber shirt pocket friendly.

Posted, the larger size in only about 5 mm longer, but seems noticably heavier.

I like both

Edited November 22, 2015 by Moynihan

[Simulacrum]

If the 1911S is the same as the 1911M (which is also called a standard), then I thought that the nibs on the 1911M (14K) were physically a different size and shape, as such not only is the pen shorter but so is the nib (the nib on the 1911M is interchangeable with the Pro Gear Slim [sapporo] and Slim Mini [sapporo Mini], but those pens can't take the 21K nibs as they won't fit on the feed)

old post I know but I'm having trouble figuring this out and I want to get the right thing. I'm wanting to clarify this. It sounds as though you are asking a question, but nobody responded.

Sailor Profit Standard 14k zoom nib vs Sailor Profit Standard 21k zoom nib. Are the nibs the same size ? Is the 21k nib a 'better quality' nib ? Smoother writer ? etc..

Edited January 25, 2018 by Simulacrum