Mb Perm Inks

[SeeksAdvice]

How does it get to be that light a color though? Now I'm tempted to write something in Perm Blue and see what happens when I hit it with water.

[meiers]

Let it dry first.

[max dog]

Perm blue is bullet proof with water.

[meiers]

Perm blue is bullet proof with water.

And tea and coffee. I know!

[SeeksAdvice]

I see that somebody else has had issues with the perm black. Have not play tested the perm blue in water yet. Do have means to do so, so I might tonight.

[meiers]

I see that somebody else has had issues with the perm black. Have not play tested the perm blue in water yet. Do have means to do so, so I might tonight.

Don't get it on your carpet.

And please report back.

[FredRydr]

Nuts! I would have put the sample in Post 35 (above) under the faucet. Too late; it's gone.

 

Fred

[LeonW]

Still holding my breath for an answer from Montblanc about the iron-gall question. German - yes, efficient - no.

[FredRydr]

Still holding my breath for an answer from Montblanc about the iron-gall question. German - yes, efficient - no.

 

Um...see post No. 32, above. Straight from the horse's mouth.

 

Fred

Edited March 1, 2015 by FredRydr

[Frank C]

I bought one bottle of each of these. I didn't know they have iron gall. I haven't seen any color shift with time, but now I'll look for it.

[LeonW]

Montblanc replied to my query regarding Iron-gall:

 

"Dear Mr. Wilken,

 

Thank you for your inquiry and for visiting our website. It would be our

pleasure to assist you.

 

No. Our inks do no contain iron gall, as it can be very damaging to the

metal and cause clogs in the ink feeding system.

 

I hope this information is of assistance to you.

 

 

Sincerely,

Ally

 

MONTBLANC North America

Customer Service

 

phone: 800 - 995 4810

email: service@montblanc.com

internet: www.montblanc.com"

 

Thanks Montblanc. Appreciated.

[FredRydr]

Okay... repeated re-edits here while I am on the phone with Montblanc New York City. Here is what I've learned.

 

Montblanc is in a major reorganization, part of which is closing down the New Jersey corporate offices, and moving "customer service" to the Texas facility. Even bigger, Montblanc NA is downsizing and moving to New York City, people are being laid off, and those who remain are moving to Richmont's building in Manhattan. When I phoned New Jersey on February 23, I spoke to a customer service person there, who today is an unemployment statistic.

 

So the conflicting New Jersey and Texas information remains. I expect New Jersey didn't have their heart in providing well-researched answers leading up to the lay-offs, but I will phone Texas anyway just to eliminate any doubt when they open in 30 minutes.

 

Anyway, this further explains the recent change of Montblanc leadership, and I guess Montblanc's absorption even deeper into a more monolithic Richmont.

 

Fred

Edited March 3, 2015 by FredRydr

[FredRydr]

Okay, here it is from Texas by telephone:

 

At 10:00AM, Crystal took my call. I asked to speak with Ally, but she was already on a customer service call. Crystal asked what my question was, specifically. I explained the conflict and where the information came from and to whom it was given (Leon and me). She said she will make enquires and put me on hold. When she came back on, she said the New Jersey information was correct, that is: The permanent inks continue to use iron gall. I asked for her name, thanked her, and said goodbye.

 

I really do believe personal contact by phone (if not face-to-face) is still the best way of getting what you want.

 

Fred

Edited March 3, 2015 by FredRydr

[LeonW]

Thanks Fred, to be on the safe side I would rather not use the Permanent Ink in a Grail Pen. But it is fine for my Lamy's with the necessary pen hygiene.

 

Thank you for the effort.

[FredRydr]

Thanks Fred, to be on the safe side I would rather not use the Permanent Ink in a Grail Pen. But it is fine for my Lamy's with the necessary pen hygiene.

 

I have no problem using inks with reputation for particulate matter in pens that are easy to clean and flush, like modern Pelicans or Auroras. On the other hand, I won't use Private Reserve Bubble Gum Pink - in anything.

 

Fred

[meiers]

All my pens are very promiscuous in their fountain pen ink preferences. They get along with:

 

1. Waterman

2. Pilot

3. Caran d'ache

4. Pelikan

5. Graf von Faber Castell

6. Montblanc

Edited March 4, 2015 by meiers

[meiers]

I never had any trouble with any of the mb iron fall inks.

[RudyR]

MB Midnight Blue (IG formula) is in at least one pen on ink rotation and I have not had any problems with it either. That includes Gold nibs and steel nibs.

[Blade Runner]

I've been using MB's iron gall blue black for many years in my 149. I just periodically refill it. I don't even flush with water. Never had a problem.