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TURQUOISE  

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  1. 1. And the winner is

    • BLEU PERVENCHE - J. Herbin
      9
    • BLU MARE - Rohrer & Klingner
      6
    • HIMMELBLAU - Standardgraph
      1
    • NIEBIESKI TURKUSOWY - Nicpoń
      8
    • TURQUOISE - Pelikan
      16

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visvamitra Antique

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Actually it won't be about turquoises, not in encyclopedical understanding of what turquoise actually is. Pure turquoise looks like that



http://imageshack.com/a/img404/7428/ei21.jpg


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Blue turquoise like that:



http://imageshack.com/a/img706/1729/22ng.jpg


www.barwy.net



Anyway I've tried to compare five inks whether called whether considered turquoises. Their colors are bright and quite saturated.



To be honest I don't like pure turquoise - I like however to fill my fountain pen with vibrant shade of blue.



I compared five inks: BLEU PERVENCHE (J. Herbin), BLU MARE (Rohrer & Klingner), HIMMELBLAU (Standardgraph), NIEBIESKI TURKUSOWY (Nicpoń*), TURQUOISE (Pelikan).



* Nicpoń is chemistry PhD Student that's active on Polish fountain pen network. He'c created limited line of nice, saturated inks in many colors.



1. Swabs on Mondi 90 g paper



http://imageshack.com/a/img811/6673/qy1b.jpg






2. Ellipses "cut" from swabs



http://imageshack.com/a/img834/1497/m97z.jpg



3. Two drops of ink on kitchen towel



http://imageshack.com/a/img607/7721/0zsu.jpg


4. Trace of ink left by the nib on the paper



http://imageshack.com/a/img839/9781/sf31.jpg


Left to right: Bleu Pervenche, Blu Mare, Himmelblau, Turquoise, Niebieski Turkusowy



5. Fast handwriting on Mondi paper



http://imageshack.com/a/img844/8823/a9d5.jpg




6. Text written with Pilot 78 G with B nib on Oxford paper:



http://imageshack.com/a/img138/5033/y4yv.jpg





http://imageshack.com/a/img547/4792/rpob.jpg


left to right: Bleu Pervenche, Blu Mare, Himmelblau, Turquoise, Niebieski Turkusowy



7. Text written on cheap notebook


Famous polish tongue twister


http://imageshack.com/a/img163/8350/obto.jpg



http://imageshack.com/a/img716/7704/b3p2.jpg



(Bleu Pervenche, Blu Mare, Himmelblau, Turquoise, Niebieski Turkusowy)



http://imageshack.com/a/img607/8232/2kry.jpg


(left to right: Bleu Pervenche, Blu Mare, Himmelblau, Turquoise, Niebieski Turkusowy)



8. Text written on cheap copy paper (Lyreco) printed with dots:



http://imageshack.com/a/img30/6678/yivm.jpg




9. Text written in notebook



http://imageshack.com/a/img812/6822/qk1c.jpg



10. Are they waterproof



http://imageshack.com/a/img138/5731/mdva.jpg



11. Dry Times (Pilot 78 g witb B nib on copy paper):



http://imageshack.com/a/img819/5915/flpn.jpg




SUMMARY:



I find it difficult to indicate the winner. I guess Pelikan Turquoise deserves to take this place - it's good ink, it has reasonable price and is easily accesible around the world. Blu Mare is really nice and intense though it's not easily seen on the scans. Niebieski Turkusowy looks really good and it behaves well in fountain pen. However it's not easy to buy this ink as it is not produced for mass market.




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Torn betwen j Herbin... and Rohrer Klingon (or what ever it's called)... both to me seem true turquoise.

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To me the NIEBIESKI TURKUSOWY (Nicpoń*) is the winner for the great shading effect

second place I'm torn between R &K and Pelikan

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Great comparison!! thank you. Assuming you used the same pen for all the writing samples, I also would prefer the polish mix because of shading. But all colors seem similar enough that buying one would strongly depend on price and availability.

 

I use Waterman South Seas (or the new name of it, I don't remember, these marketing guys.....) because of those factors, together with good proven ol' behaviour. And, for a darker shade of turquoise, Diamine Havasu.

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very interesting post, visvamitra, informative -- although frankly I didn't see much difference in hue. I generally dislike turquoise, but Pelikan inks are well-saturated and I favor them over the other brands (of those you used I have experience only with J Herbin.)

 

At the risk of deviating from the Turquoise topic, I've uploaded two samples (at least they are blue) comparing Herbin Eclat de Saphir and Visconti Blue.

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I've always enjoyed Pelikan turquoise. Pleasant, cheery color.

 

I found MB turquoise to be too pale and the flow wasn't good.

I found Waterman Southseas blue too intense and after a while not so pleasant.

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Only have Herbin and Pelikan of those listed.

When I got here some years ago, Lamy was the base turquoise all were compared too. It is close to Pelikan.

I voted Blue Pervenche.

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Mercian Donor Pen

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This post is just my attempt to restore the images to the OP from this thread.

All credit - for the images, and for creating the comparisons - is owed to visvamitra.

 

Enjoy!

 

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Actually it won't be about turquoises, not in encyclopaedic understanding of what turquoise actually is. Pure turquoise looks like that

 

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Blue turquoise like that:

 

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Anyway I've tried to compare five inks whether called whether considered turquoises. Their colors are bright and quite saturated.

 

To be honest I don't like pure turquoise - I like however to fill my fountain pen with vibrant shade of blue.

 

I compared five inks: BLEU PERVENCHE (J. Herbin), BLU MARE (Rohrer & Klingner), HIMMELBLAU (Standardgraph), NIEBIESKI TURKUSOWY (Nicpoń*), TURQUOISE (Pelikan).

 

* Nicpoń is chemistry PhD Student that's active on Polish fountain pen network. He'c created limited line of nice, saturated inks in many colors.

 

 

 

1. Swabs on Mondi 90 g paper

 

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2. Ellipses "cut" from swabs

 

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3. Two drops of ink on kitchen towel

 

https://imageshack.com/a/img607/7721/0zsu.jpg  ← this image inaccessible on 2024-11-06.

 

 

4. Trace of ink left by the nib on the paper

 

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Left to right: Bleu Pervenche, Blu Mare, Himmelblau, Turquoise, Niebieski Turkusowy

 

 

 

5. Fast handwriting on Mondi paper

 

https://imageshack.com/a/img844/8823/a9d5.jpg ← this image inaccessible on 2024-11-06.

 

 

6. Text written with Pilot 78 G with B nib on Oxford paper:

 

spacer.png

 

 

 

 

 

https://imageshack.com/a/img547/4792/rpob.jpg ← this image inaccessible on 2024-11-06.

 

left to right: Bleu Pervenche, Blu Mare, Himmelblau, Turquoise, Niebieski Turkusowy

 

 

 

7. Text written on cheap notebook

 

Famous polish tongue twister

 

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spacer.png

 

 

 

(Bleu Pervenche, Blu Mare, Himmelblau, Turquoise, Niebieski Turkusowy)

 

 

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(left to right: Bleu Pervenche, Blu Mare, Himmelblau, Turquoise, Niebieski Turkusowy)

 

 

 

8. Text written on cheap copy paper (Lyreco) printed with dots:

 

spacer.png

 

 

9. Text written in notebook

 

spacer.png

 

10. Are they waterproof?

 

spacer.png

 

 

 

11. Dry Times (Pilot 78 g witb B nib on copy paper):

 

spacer.png

 

 

 

SUMMARY:

I find it difficult to indicate the winner. I guess Pelikan Turquoise deserves to take this place - it's good ink, it has reasonable price and is easily accessible around the world. Blu Mare is really nice and intense though it's not easily seen on the scans. Niebieski Turkusowy looks really good and it behaves well in fountain pen. However it's not easy to buy this ink as it is not produced for mass market.

 

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I hope that this post is useful :thumbup:

 

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I stumbled upon the origin of the word "turquoise." 

The etymology of the word itself can be traced back to the 17th century and the source was the mined stone. It appears that there were a multitude of trade routes that brought the turquoise stones from Persia through the Middle East and onto Europe. The path crossed through Turkey (“Turquie” in French); this left a strong theory that “Turquies,” sounding much like the modern-day “turquoise,” morphed into the word we use today

from Color Meanings, https://www.color-meanings.com/history-color-turquoise/

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2 minutes ago, OCArt said:

The path crossed through Turkey (“Turquie” in French); this left a strong theory that “Turquies,” sounding much like the modern-day “turquoise,” morphed into the word we use today

 

This makes sense to me - e.g. on my bottle of Pelikan 4001 Turquoise, the name of the ink in German is 'Türkis'.

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16 hours ago, Mercian said:

Blue turquoise like that:

Isn't ink turquoise the same as print cyan? I'm just wondering.

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I am fully on board with Pelikan Turkis as the winner - it is my favorite and against those from my experience. It is lovely in writing. 

 

Lamy standard turquoise would be a very close second, and I think it has just a hair more sheen on the page. 

 

Thanks for the review, and reminding me that I haven't inked that Turkis up in a hot minute! 

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