Gold Montblanc 146

[Wolf]

I'm about to buy a gold plated Montblanc 146 with a 14k nib.

 

Do you know if they came with a 14k nib? How old could the fountain pen be?

 

Are there gold plated fake 146's on the market and how could I recognize a fake one?

 

Do you know the normal value?

 

If you are in the know and willing to answer one or more questions, I am grateful to you.

Edited June 11, 2008 by Wolf

[tutelman]

Hi. I'm far from an expert, but I have asked whether there are any fake piston filling MBs on the market. No one has ever responded that such a thing exists. It seems that the counterfeits that others report are c/c fillers. So unless someone has seen a fake 146...

[penparadise]

Do you know if they came with a 14k nib? How old could the fountain pen be?

No, all Montblanc Meisterstück Solitaire fountain pens came and come only with an 18k nib.

 

Are there gold plated fake 146's on the market and how could I recognize a fake one?

Yes, https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=63637 but none of them have a piston filling mechanism.

 

Best regards,

Axel

 

 

 

[littledane]

The 146 Le Grand in black resin and gold has a standard 14K nib, and is only piston fill. Le Grand Traveller is cartridge fill, with a gold plated cartridge holder. These, of course, are the current models.

http://www.montblanc.com/products/black_re...grand.13661.php

 

For older models, I'm not familiar with, but some searching here might result in a few leads.

 

If you have access to the pen, do a quick test with a magnet to the nib. If there is attraction, then I would highly suggest that the nib is fake and probably made out of steel.

 

 

[littledane]

Wolf, after reading your post again, I think there might be confusion (at least on my part).

 

Are you referring to a Black Resin and Gold 146 or a precious metal 146 in gold.

 

I had assumed Black and Gold trim, but I think penparadise assumed you meant a precious metal Solitare.

 

Could you clarify?

Edited June 12, 2008 by littledane

[Wolf]

Wolf, after reading your post again, I think there might be confusion (at least on my part).

 

Are you referring to a Black Resin and Gold 146 or a precious metal 146 in gold.

 

I had assumed Black and Gold trim, but I think penparadise assumed you meant a precious metal Solitare.

 

Could you clarify?

 

Thanks for your reply. I meant the precious metal gold 'case'. I don't know if it is called the 'gold-plated pinstripe solitaire 146', but it is gold like that one.

 

Therefore, I wondered if these gold ones come with a 14K nib.

[Wolf]

Do you know if they came with a 14k nib? How old could the fountain pen be?

No, all Montblanc Meisterstück Solitaire fountain pens came and come only with an 18k nib.

 

Are there gold plated fake 146's on the market and how could I recognize a fake one?

Yes, https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=63637 but none of them have a piston filling mechanism.

 

Best regards,

Axel

 

Thanks for your reply, Axel.

 

That's what I thought. So, it's strange that this gold 146 has a 14K nib. Do you know if all Gold 146 Montblancs are called Solitaire?

This one has a piston filler, so it's maybe not fake, but why the 14k nib?

 

Kind regards,

Tom

[penparadise]

. . . So, it's strange that this gold 146 has a 14K nib. Do you know if all Gold 146 Montblancs are called Solitaire?

This one has a piston filler, so it's maybe not fake, but why the 14k nib?

Hi Tom,

 

To give a correct answer I have to know some more details:

I persume that the overlay is a pinstripe one, yes?

What hallmark is on the overlay?

Is it 585 then it's probably a vintage pen with a 14k juweler's overlay and then a 14k nib will be original.

Is it 750 then it's a solid gold overlay and made between 1982 and 1992. Then a 14k or an 18k nib can be on the pen, both is possible and OK.

Is it 925 then it's a goldplated solid silber overlay, called Vermeil. Then the pen is a "Solitaire" and it is made after 1992. And then an 18k nib should be on the pen.

 

I thought you have the Vermeil version.

 

Best regards,

Axel

 

 

 

[Wolf]

. . . So, it's strange that this gold 146 has a 14K nib. Do you know if all Gold 146 Montblancs are called Solitaire?

This one has a piston filler, so it's maybe not fake, but why the 14k nib?

Hi Tom,

 

To give a correct answer I have to know some more details:

I persume that the overlay is a pinstripe one, yes?

What hallmark is on the overlay?

Is it 585 then it's probably a vintage pen with a 14k juweler's overlay and then a 14k nib will be original.

Is it 750 then it's a solid gold overlay and made between 1982 and 1992. Then a 14k or an 18k nib can be on the pen, both is possible and OK.

Is it 925 then it's a goldplated solid silber overlay, called Vermeil. Then the pen is a "Solitaire" and it is made after 1992. And then an 18k nib should be on the pen.

 

I thought you have the Vermeil version.

 

Best regards,

Axel

 

According to the seller the pen was from 2001 and according to your and other information it could not have a 14k nib.

 

I've decided not to buy the pen. Thank you for your replies!

[goodguy]

Older Mont Blanc 146 came with 14K single tone gold nib,I know that because I own such a pen (its about 30 years old).