How to fill engravings?

[Wael El-Dasher]

I was told one can use a "grease pencil" to fill in the engravings on the writers edition caps. But I have no idea what's a grease pencil and I get funny looks when I asked at the art supply store. Any particular brand names I should ask for? What about alternative methods?

 

cheers

 

Wael

[MichaelD]

Wael,

 

I am not familiar with the thread you are talking about, however we used "grease pencils" to mark on glass or Plexiglas.

I did purchase one locally at an art supply store. On the marker it calls it a "China Marker."

Sorry I don't have the company name. I have peeled off the out wrapping too far to expose more of the marker surface.

 

Michael

[niksch]

Pen Nut recommended a product made by a firm called Sikkens and marketed as Sikkoflex. This came up in the Repair Forum a few months ago.

 

A grease pencil is similar to a crayon.

 

Eric

[Wael El-Dasher]

Thanks guys. I will try the art supply store again. I googled Sikkoflex and found out its a sealant used on boats. I will try the marine stores in town. Eric, have you tried this yourself on any of your pens?

 

cheers

 

Wael

[jbb]

This would work:

http://www.dickblick.com/products/amaco-ru...allic-finishes/

[niksch]

have you tried this yourself on any of your pens?

I have not looked for the product. Pen Nut says that auto body shops in the UK use it, and that might be a good place to start. I used black crayon for awhile on/in the engraving my LeGrand pencil, but the engraving is not deep enough to hold the wax. It looks like an MB factory engraving, BTW.

[Michael R.]

Currently I'm using those:

 

Oil-Pastels by Jaxon (Honsell art products)

 

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51gpbUTWxuL._SS500_.jpg

 

http://www.kunstpark-shop.de/Bilder/05_i_pastell_jaxon_sortimente_bild.jpg

 

(http://www.honsellart.de/jaxon.html)

 

to fill in engravings (barrel imprints on vintage pens,...); they come in all colors including metallic silver and gold and they seem to be fully removable with a soft toothbrush in case you change your mind.

 

Michael

 

[asimplemaestro]

Are we talking about custom engravings or the ones that come with the pens of the Writers names? If the latter then why?

[Wael El-Dasher]

Are we talking about custom engravings or the ones that come with the pens of the Writers names? If the latter then why?

 

Actually both. The signature on my 149 lost its color and some of my writers editions did too. I would like to fill the in again.

[Wael El-Dasher]

I believe its a fair assumption that the oil pastels don't last very long and the silicone product from Sikkens does. BTW, the Hemingway FP I bought had the montblanc script on the cap filled in white and it looks great!

 

 

[niksch]

I completely misread your post. This flu-bug is getting me down. I thought you wanted to fill in the engravings at an attempt to hide them. I wondered why folks were coming up with all these colored crayon-like ideas. So now I understand...Not sure if Sikkoflex comes in an assortment of colors, but since it is a permanent solution, I probably wouldn't have recommended that in the beginning.

 

Actually both. The signature on my 149 lost its color and some of my writers editions did too. I would like to fill the in again.

Edited February 19, 2009 by niksch

[asimplemaestro]

I completely misread your post. This flu-bug is getting me down. I thought you wanted to fill in the engravings at an attempt to hide them. I wondered why folks were coming up with all these colored crayon-like ideas. So now I understand...Not sure if Sikkoflex comes in an assortment of colors, but since it is a permanent solution, I probably wouldn't have recommended that in the beginning.

 

Actually both. The signature on my 149 lost its color and some of my writers editions did too. I would like to fill the in again.

 

Ditto...I thought the same thing. Now I get it haha.

[humphrey351]

At the store level to fill the engraving we use enamel paint, the kind that is in a marker like a sharpie. To clean off the excess we use Goo-gone on a cloth and wipe it off. Last a lot longer than the crayon style fill we used to use. As for the writers series, that is done at the factory.

[Wael El-Dasher]

Thanks! That's a great idea. I will try the enamel markers. I've seen them at the art supply store.

 

cheers

 

W

[InkWench]

On the vintage white engraved MBs I can't help you..

 

But re: the engravings that the stores do I can help and it will look brighter and like new.

 

First make absolutely Sure there are no little scratches within a half inch radius around the engraving.

 

I go to Hobby Lobby and buy the felt tipped Metallic marker pens.

The kind you shake till you hear the little metal ball inside moving.

 

A gold marker for gold engraving and silver for silver.

It's called "Metallic Painters - Opaque Paint Marker".

You'll want fine or medium point.

 

I don't know why they call it opaque, cause I get a solid color.

 

Make sure you have an Extremely soft cloth...perhaps a 100% cotton diaper material.

 

(this is So much easier to Show someone than describe, but I'll try)

 

After you have shaken the metallic marker pen well....do a test on a piece of paper so you know how fast the "paint" will come out when you press down on the tip to make it flow.

Then, as needed, press and dab the paint onto your engraving....you'll Want to go outside the lines a bit.....it's ok !! ...it will rub off.

Give the paint about 10 seconds to sink into the engraving.

 

Then use the soft cloth and Rub fairly hard across your pen's surface till the only paint left is in the engraved lines....all the extra paint Will rub off.

You may want to wait about 5 minutes and repeat the process to make it brighter.

 

If your MB pen has any little scratches around the engraving, the paint will sink into those as well, so you can't do this if yours has scratches.

 

I redo the engraving on my regular black Meisterstuck BP with a gold metallic marker all the time and have redone the engraving on a friend's pen several times, also.

 

 

I learned how by watching pens at the MB Boutique (I bought my collection at) being engraved and saw how they filled them in.

I just went to Hobby Lobby and bought my own metallic pens.

 

I know most of you already know about all this...but you never know who's trying it the first time.

 

I hope this helps !

Edited February 22, 2009 by InkWench

[Wael El-Dasher]

I just tried the method described by InkWench and it worked! Thanks for the tutorial. This should be posted in DIY section.

 

Thanks InkWench!!!

 

cheers

 

W

[gregamckinney]

Wael,

 

I am not familiar with the thread you are talking about, however we used "grease pencils" to mark on glass or Plexiglas.

I did purchase one locally at an art supply store. On the marker it calls it a "China Marker."

Sorry I don't have the company name. I have peeled off the out wrapping too far to expose more of the marker surface.

 

Michael

 

I use the China marker, and it works well. These are sometimes called paper-wrapped markers.

http://www.dickblick.com/products/sanford-...wrapped-marker/

 

Regards, greg