Binder XXXXF

[nkk]

So, a day ago I got my first custom ground nib, a Binder XXXXF (.1 millimeter). Wow.

 

It is so smooth for being so fine, and the service is impeccable. Although, he lied during the transaction. The website said there was a 1 week wait because it was a specialty grind, and that was false. It came within 3 days of being ordered.

 

 

Either way, if I ever need another fine nib, it is coming from him.

 

Review to come when I get back to my dorm with my good paper and scanner.

 

-Nkk

[Silvermink]

I've got a 0.6mm VP Binder stub and I'm starting to ponder seeing if anyone wants to trade me a Binder needlepoint for it. I really like how the stub's writing looks but the "catchiness" of it doesn't quite work for me on the paper I have to write on most of the time.

 

Still not 100% decided, though.

 

How does it perform on somewhat-sub-optimal (i.e., not total junk, but like you might get in an office notebook) papers, or have you been avoiding those? I guess there's the issue of fibers getting stuck between the tines.

Edited January 9, 2009 by Silvermink

[yachtsilverswan]

So, a day ago I got my first custom ground nib, a Binder XXXXF (.1 millimeter). Wow.

 

It is so smooth for being so fine, and the service is impeccable. Although, he lied during the transaction. The website said there was a 1 week wait because it was a specialty grind, and that was false. It came within 3 days of being ordered.

 

 

Either way, if I ever need another fine nib, it is coming from him.

 

Review to come when I get back to my dorm with my good paper and scanner.

 

-Nkk

 

Congrats NKK.

 

The fabled Nibmeister seems to deliver perfection daily. I suspect he sucessfully practices Alchemy in his basement on weekends.

 

Have a great semester.

 

[nkk]

I've got a 0.6mm VP Binder stub and I'm starting to ponder seeing if anyone wants to trade me a Binder needlepoint for it. I really like how the stub's writing looks but the "catchiness" of it doesn't quite work for me on the paper I have to write on most of the time.

 

Still not 100% decided, though.

 

How does it perform on somewhat-sub-optimal (i.e., not total junk, but like you might get in an office notebook) papers, or have you been avoiding those? I guess there's the issue of fibers getting stuck between the tines.

 

Thus far I have avoided them, but a full review will come when I get back to my dorm, which houses a scanner. I did write on his blotter that he shipped with the order (had to test the extreme), and it was suprisingly not thick. It took the ink, but it is still a relatively thin line. Not needlepoint, but maybe a M-F line.

 

 

So, a day ago I got my first custom ground nib, a Binder XXXXF (.1 millimeter). Wow.

 

It is so smooth for being so fine, and the service is impeccable. Although, he lied during the transaction. The website said there was a 1 week wait because it was a specialty grind, and that was false. It came within 3 days of being ordered.

 

 

Either way, if I ever need another fine nib, it is coming from him.

 

Review to come when I get back to my dorm with my good paper and scanner.

 

-Nkk

 

Congrats NKK.

 

The fabled Nibmeister seems to deliver perfection daily. I suspect he sucessfully practices Alchemy in his basement on weekends.

 

Have a great semester.

 

Yes, but his alchemy yields premade 14k nibs, not just chunks of gold.

And thank you, I do hope to have a good semester.

 

-Nkk

 

[savarez]

I've got a 0.6mm VP Binder stub and I'm starting to ponder seeing if anyone wants to trade me a Binder needlepoint for it. I really like how the stub's writing looks but the "catchiness" of it doesn't quite work for me on the paper I have to write on most of the time.

 

Still not 100% decided, though.

 

How does it perform on somewhat-sub-optimal (i.e., not total junk, but like you might get in an office notebook) papers, or have you been avoiding those? I guess there's the issue of fibers getting stuck between the tines.

 

A couple of things you should know about xxf and finer nibs:

 

- The finer the nib, the smaller the sweet spot, and the more likely it is to be a little scratchy. Mister Binder is a miracle worker, but an xxf just won't be as smooth as a larger nib, and therefore, more likely to feel scratchier on "sub-optimal" paper.

 

- The lighter the pressure you use, the smoother your nib will feel and the better your results will be. It sounds silly, but really *practice* writing with fountain pens putting literally NO pressure on the paper. Just hold the pen, as usual, but let the weight of the pen itself be the maximum pressure that the nib puts on the paper. It's amazing how much pressure we use to write without even being aware of it, but as you learn to write with FP's, especially with xxf nibs, it is something you should observe carefully.

 

- The ink you choose will have a huge influence on how well the nib performs on any paper. On sub-optimal papers, you will likely need an ink with good flow properties, but without a tendency to feather. A good go-to ink for poor paper with very fine nibs is good-old Noodler's Black. You might also try Aurora Black, or Pelikan Black.

 

- For your very first XXF or finer nib, you probably do not need to take the plunge for gold. The XXF steel nibs perform just as well, assuming you do not want added flex.

 

Good luck, and happy writing!

 

[nullnull10010]

So, a day ago I got my first custom ground nib, a Binder XXXXF (.1 millimeter). Wow.

 

It is so smooth for being so fine, and the service is impeccable. Although, he lied during the transaction. The website said there was a 1 week wait because it was a specialty grind, and that was false. It came within 3 days of being ordered.

 

 

Either way, if I ever need another fine nib, it is coming from him.

 

Review to come when I get back to my dorm with my good paper and scanner.

 

-Nkk

 

I'm just curious what you could possibly use a nib that small for... I mean, I got a Pilot Decimo in F (so it's like a Western XF I guess), but it's only good for writing Japanese -- it's WAY too thin for anything else. But an XXXXF? That blows my mind! :blink:

[Pepin]

Can this learned wizard convert a Sheaffer inlaid Legacy nib from medium to XF? Or perhaps finer? I also own a legacy XF and the thing writes like a fine. How much is the service (now that I know turn around time)? PM me if needed.

 

Thanks.

Edited January 9, 2009 by Pepin

[savarez]

Can this learned wizard convert a Sheaffer inlaid Legacy nib from medium to XF? Or perhaps finer? I also own a legacy XF and the thing writes like a fine. How much is the service (now that I know turn around time)? PM me if needed.

 

There are many pen repair folk who will do a custom nib regrind. You might start with this thread:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=58161

 

Of course, not everyone can work the Binder magic with Needlepoint regrinds. The man has the touch.

 

 

 

[WillSW]

Can this learned wizard convert a Sheaffer inlaid Legacy nib from medium to XF? Or perhaps finer? I also own a legacy XF and the thing writes like a fine. How much is the service (now that I know turn around time)? PM me if needed.

 

Thanks.

 

My quoted turn around time about a month ago was 16 weeks.

[nkk]

Can this learned wizard convert a Sheaffer inlaid Legacy nib from medium to XF? Or perhaps finer? I also own a legacy XF and the thing writes like a fine. How much is the service (now that I know turn around time)? PM me if needed.

 

Thanks.

 

Ohh..sorry for the misunderstanding. I bought the nib from him. That means that my order bypasses his waitlist. If you send your sheaffer into him, you will have to wait the 15 or whatever weeks. But yes, I am pretty sure he can grind an inlaid Legacy nib. I obviously do not speak for him, but I do think I saw him doing anotherr inlaid nib at a pen show, and I see no reason for him not to be able to. From his website, grinding to XF, XXF, or XXXF is $50, and XXXXF is $65 when you send in your pen.

 

-Nkk

[Pepin]

15 weeks wait time is ridiculous. I'd have purchased a new pen or perished from uncurable metastatic cancer by then. :roflmho:

 

Can this learned wizard convert a Sheaffer inlaid Legacy nib from medium to XF? Or perhaps finer? I also own a legacy XF and the thing writes like a fine. How much is the service (now that I know turn around time)? PM me if needed.

 

Thanks.

 

Ohh..sorry for the misunderstanding. I bought the nib from him. That means that my order bypasses his waitlist. If you send your sheaffer into him, you will have to wait the 15 or whatever weeks. But yes, I am pretty sure he can grind an inlaid Legacy nib. I obviously do not speak for him, but I do think I saw him doing anotherr inlaid nib at a pen show, and I see no reason for him not to be able to. From his website, grinding to XF, XXF, or XXXF is $50, and XXXXF is $65 when you send in your pen.

 

-Nkk

Edited January 9, 2009 by Pepin

[nkk]

15 weeks wait time is ridiculous. I'd have purchased a new pen or perished from uncurable metastatic cancer by then. :roflmho:

 

Can this learned wizard convert a Sheaffer inlaid Legacy nib from medium to XF? Or perhaps finer? I also own a legacy XF and the thing writes like a fine. How much is the service (now that I know turn around time)? PM me if needed.

 

Thanks.

 

Ohh..sorry for the misunderstanding. I bought the nib from him. That means that my order bypasses his waitlist. If you send your sheaffer into him, you will have to wait the 15 or whatever weeks. But yes, I am pretty sure he can grind an inlaid Legacy nib. I obviously do not speak for him, but I do think I saw him doing anotherr inlaid nib at a pen show, and I see no reason for him not to be able to. From his website, grinding to XF, XXF, or XXXF is $50, and XXXXF is $65 when you send in your pen.

 

-Nkk

 

I would wait to try some of his work before you dismiss the wait time. There is a reason he has such an absurd wait time, you know.

 

However, there are other nibmeisters who can do needlepoints.

 

-Nkk

[Robert Hughes]

And we all hope you don't come down with cancer. Stick around and try a nib!

[playpen]

To answer your question, with teeny tiny nibs you can draw or write teeny tiny things.

[Titivillus]

15 weeks wait time is ridiculous. I'd have purchased a new pen or perished from uncurable metastatic cancer by then. :roflmho:

 

Can this learned wizard convert a Sheaffer inlaid Legacy nib from medium to XF? Or perhaps finer? I also own a legacy XF and the thing writes like a fine. How much is the service (now that I know turn around time)? PM me if needed.

 

Thanks.

 

Ohh..sorry for the misunderstanding. I bought the nib from him. That means that my order bypasses his waitlist. If you send your sheaffer into him, you will have to wait the 15 or whatever weeks. But yes, I am pretty sure he can grind an inlaid Legacy nib. I obviously do not speak for him, but I do think I saw him doing anotherr inlaid nib at a pen show, and I see no reason for him not to be able to. From his website, grinding to XF, XXF, or XXXF is $50, and XXXXF is $65 when you send in your pen.

 

-Nkk

 

I would wait to try some of his work before you dismiss the wait time. There is a reason he has such an absurd wait time, you know.

 

However, there are other nibmeisters who can do needlepoints.

 

-Nkk

 

I don't think he was dismissing the wait time. It's all economics Richards hada service people are willing to pay & wait for. If the time is too long then looking elsewhere is best. Wonder why there are not more people giving their hand at these grindings since there must be a need!

 

K

 

[savarez]

It seems the older we get, fifteen weeks can seem more like the blink of an eye than an interminable wait. I have a batch of pens that I sent in October, and I swear it feels like I mailed them off yesterday.

[Borker]

15 weeks wait time is ridiculous. I'd have purchased a new pen or perished from uncurable metastatic cancer by then. :roflmho:

 

Can this learned wizard convert a Sheaffer inlaid Legacy nib from medium to XF? Or perhaps finer? I also own a legacy XF and the thing writes like a fine. How much is the service (now that I know turn around time)? PM me if needed.

 

Thanks.

 

Ohh..sorry for the misunderstanding. I bought the nib from him. That means that my order bypasses his waitlist. If you send your sheaffer into him, you will have to wait the 15 or whatever weeks. But yes, I am pretty sure he can grind an inlaid Legacy nib. I obviously do not speak for him, but I do think I saw him doing anotherr inlaid nib at a pen show, and I see no reason for him not to be able to. From his website, grinding to XF, XXF, or XXXF is $50, and XXXXF is $65 when you send in your pen.

 

-Nkk

 

I would wait to try some of his work before you dismiss the wait time. There is a reason he has such an absurd wait time, you know.

 

However, there are other nibmeisters who can do needlepoints.

 

-Nkk

 

I don't think he was dismissing the wait time. It's all economics Richards hada service people are willing to pay & wait for. If the time is too long then looking elsewhere is best. Wonder why there are not more people giving their hand at these grindings since there must be a need!

 

K

 

That is what I was saying (maybe not in the best words). Do not say the wait time is too much for the service before trying the service, because IMHO it is worth it. Pepin may not think so, but neither did I before I actually tried one of his nibs. Now, because I have enough pens to lose one for a while, and because I have enjoyed the bliss that this service yields, I think the wait is worth it. You are right, people still may not think it is worth it, but I think it is worth it to try before making that judgment.

 

-Nkk

 

EDIT: Oh, hey, I did not realize my sister was logged in and not me. This is really NKK

Edited January 10, 2009 by Borker

[brianw06]

I have now moved to the front of Mr Binders cue , as he got many of my pens at the NY/NJ pen show. I can hardly wait for the italifine grinds he is doing on my pelikans and fabers as well as the tuning to a few "51"s

 

His work is superb and well worth the wait

[jkrewalk]

15 weeks wait time is ridiculous. I'd have purchased a new pen or perished from uncurable metastatic cancer by then. :roflmho:

 

Can this learned wizard convert a Sheaffer inlaid Legacy nib from medium to XF? Or perhaps finer? I also own a legacy XF and the thing writes like a fine. How much is the service (now that I know turn around time)? PM me if needed.

 

Thanks.

 

Ohh..sorry for the misunderstanding. I bought the nib from him. That means that my order bypasses his waitlist. If you send your sheaffer into him, you will have to wait the 15 or whatever weeks. But yes, I am pretty sure he can grind an inlaid Legacy nib. I obviously do not speak for him, but I do think I saw him doing anotherr inlaid nib at a pen show, and I see no reason for him not to be able to. From his website, grinding to XF, XXF, or XXXF is $50, and XXXXF is $65 when you send in your pen.

 

-Nkk

 

I would wait to try some of his work before you dismiss the wait time. There is a reason he has such an absurd wait time, you know.

 

However, there are other nibmeisters who can do needlepoints.

 

-Nkk

 

I don't think he was dismissing the wait time. It's all economics Richards hada service people are willing to pay & wait for. If the time is too long then looking elsewhere is best. Wonder why there are not more people giving their hand at these grindings since there must be a need!

 

K

 

That is what I was saying (maybe not in the best words). Do not say the wait time is too much for the service before trying the service, because IMHO it is worth it. Pepin may not think so, but neither did I before I actually tried one of his nibs. Now, because I have enough pens to lose one for a while, and because I have enjoyed the bliss that this service yields, I think the wait is worth it. You are right, people still may not think it is worth it, but I think it is worth it to try before making that judgment.

 

-Nkk

 

EDIT: Oh, hey, I did not realize my sister was logged in and not me. This is really NKK

 

 

While Mr. Binder s indeed one of the best there are many others who are also superb nibmeisters and have MUCH shorter wait times. Dillo (here on FPN) is one as well as Deb Kinney and let's not forget Pendemonium (whose wait is only 2 weeks or so and I have heard their nibmeister is superb).

[twinofmunin]

I'm just curious what you could possibly use a nib that small for... I mean, I got a Pilot Decimo in F (so it's like a Western XF I guess), but it's only good for writing Japanese -- it's WAY too thin for anything else. But an XXXXF? That blows my mind! :blink:

 

I use a nib that small for writing... because my handwriting is teeny tiny. My handwriting gets along best with an XXF or an XXXF, though I get along okay with my Pilot Fine nibs. I also use 0.3mm mechanical pencils and sometimes they feel broad, so...

 

I am sad that I bonked my XXXXF against something (got startled) and now the tines appear misaligned (and so it feels scratchy).