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My pen collector friend who is, at the moment, in Cairo, Egypt, has picked up there a 1950s' MB 146 with the round white dot/circle on the cap top. Here are a few pictures that I just received from him.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18Z153u7sBEKf6djh0x8vR4kSbvqDvzqM/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13kfEXcSDietW-10bCqB-Y9NAGEck5mHo/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QcOkpLVmUE_uMR-raQjTSM-X1JaICPc0/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qV3ugi9Dv5JmqlqPXGKaf5xcVmSb719t/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18fXlI5ai0uRoDNkcVY8wVhur2UuE2csI/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TQW6xelw51iU6C1sn4Aa6WbYLbBhBULQ/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iPyDhM2jlZFhygvVIVwVQJvc45K-wNv0/view?usp=drivesdk

 

Thanks for any comments.

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Kid Parker Mint

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Hi gang,

 

A box of vintage Montblancs arrived a couple of days ago. I'm researching them and preparing them for PBA's July 19th auction. Estimates and reserves will be very reasonable, as my consignor wants everything to sell. Some nifty stuff here, including a great big MB No. 12 with glossy black hard rubber and original snake clip, several Platinum-Lined Montblancs, a couple of rare MB 139 "Long Window" pens, lots of 1920s MB eyedroppers, etc.

 

One pen in particular has me intrigued, and I wanted to show it to you all and see if anyone has any insights.

 

This pen isn't branded, but certainly appears to be a Montblanc. It has a circle emblem on the captop, presumably for sale in the Middle East. However, have a look at the nib. It's engraved with a Star of David!

 

Anyone who wants this fascinating artifact should PM me and request a copy of the auction catalogue. Anyone with interesting modern or vintage pens to consign to the sale should likewise contact me.

 

Cheers, Ivan

 

 

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I. Briggs

Director, Fine Pens, Watches and Comics,

PBA Galleries Auctioneers, San Francisco

ivan@pbagalleries.com

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Helotes Ivan. It is my recollection that casein circles were occasional replacements for MB pens that had hard rubber tops and casein stars. The stars would become damaged or cracked and it was easier to recur and refit a circle than fiddle around with making a star.

 

This could just be a copy pen if the are no MB markings. The nib does not look MB to me.

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My pen collector friend who is, at the moment, in Cairo, Egypt, has picked up there a 1950s' MB 146 with the round white dot/circle on the cap top. Here are a few pictures that I just received from him.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18Z153u7sBEKf6djh0x8vR4kSbvqDvzqM/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13kfEXcSDietW-10bCqB-Y9NAGEck5mHo/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QcOkpLVmUE_uMR-raQjTSM-X1JaICPc0/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qV3ugi9Dv5JmqlqPXGKaf5xcVmSb719t/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18fXlI5ai0uRoDNkcVY8wVhur2UuE2csI/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TQW6xelw51iU6C1sn4Aa6WbYLbBhBULQ/view?usp=drivesdk

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iPyDhM2jlZFhygvVIVwVQJvc45K-wNv0/view?usp=drivesdk

 

Thanks for any comments.

 

I've seen 1970's 149s and 146s with the circle, but never a '50s 146. Nice pen.

Hard times don't last, but hard people do.

 

Thank a Veteran.

 

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Helotes Ivan. It is my recollection that casein circles were occasional replacements for MB pens that had hard rubber tops and casein stars. The stars would become damaged or cracked and it was easier to recur and refit a circle than fiddle around with making a star.

 

This could just be a copy pen if the are no MB markings. The nib does not look MB to me.

 

The pen certainly looks like a MB 136 body. The nib is a replacement as zaddick indicates. I also suspect that the clip is a replacement from a non-Montblanc pen, or possibly an later wartime 136, but it's unclear from the photos.

Hard times don't last, but hard people do.

 

Thank a Veteran.

 

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I agree with Zaddick and Niksch.

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Montblanc collector since 1968. Former owner of the Montblanc Boutique Bremen, retired 2007 and sold it.
Collecting Montblanc safeties, eyedroppers, lever fillers, button fillers, compressors - all from 1908 - 1929,
Montblanc ephemera and paraphernalia from 1908 to 1929,
Montblanc Meisterstück from 1924 up to the 50s,
Montblanc special and limited editions from 1991 to 2006
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Thanks, chaps! I checked in with the incredible Osman Sumer, who confirms your collective wisdom about this pen.

I. Briggs

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PBA Galleries Auctioneers, San Francisco

ivan@pbagalleries.com

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Thanks, chaps! I checked in with the incredible Osman Sumer, who confirms your collective wisdom about this pen.

 

Osman would know. Axel and Osman are rare sources of information WRT our pens.

Hard times don't last, but hard people do.

 

Thank a Veteran.

 

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