shellac as an adhesive?

[penmanila]

one of the jewels on one of my vacumatics is a bit loose, and i'm afraid that one of these days i'm going to be staring at a hole where it used to be. i have a little bottle of shellac (from woodbin.ca) and i'm thinking that a dab of it where the jewel screws down might not be a bad idea. or is it? (superglue has wickedly occurred to me, too, but i'd rather not do anything irreversible.) advice please, thanks!

 

 

[penmanila]

anyone? i'm about to stick it on

[OldGriz]

I don't see a problem using shellac... just remember if you ever have to remove that jewel it is going to require some heat.... or if you have someone else work on that pen make sure they know what to expect..

 

As for crazy glue .... they have absolutely no place in any type of pen repair.....

 

[penmanila]

many thanks, tom!

[eckiethump]

I don't see a problem using shellac... just remember if you ever have to remove that jewel it is going to require some heat.... or if you have someone else work on that pen make sure they know what to expect..

 

As for crazy glue .... they have absolutely no place in any type of pen repair.....

Sorry Tom, disagree with this, your comment I think is misleading as adhesive in this form does have a place in pen restoration/repair if used responsably.

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[OldGriz]

I don't see a problem using shellac... just remember if you ever have to remove that jewel it is going to require some heat.... or if you have someone else work on that pen make sure they know what to expect..

 

As for crazy glue .... they have absolutely no place in any type of pen repair.....

Sorry Tom, disagree with this, your comment I think is misleading as adhesive in this form does have a place in pen restoration/repair if used responsably.

et

 

I suggest that you read comments by both Ron Zorn and Richard Binder concerning that adhesive.... and consider the years and experience they have....

 

[Ron Z]

Keep in mind that you, or someone, will want to remove that jewel at some point down the road. Shellac can make it very difficult to get a jewel out, super glue impossible. The voice of experience here, having done more than I care to remember over the years. (must be in the hundreds at this point) Replacement original jewels are not easy to find!

 

While shellac will work, thread sealant works much better. It is tacky, so holds the jewel in place, but will release with a little or no heat. Just a small dab on the threads of the clip screw will hold it.

 

re. super glue. I have serious reservations about using superglue for pen repair. Most plastic repairs can be done far better, and be made much stronger, by solvent welding. Other repairs can be done with epoxy, which is stronger. Most superglue will break down in a moist environment, so inside a cap, or anywhere near a nib is a bad idea. Most consumer grade superglues will fail sooner rather than later (lots of experience here). There are hardened, moisture resistant versions, but you should expect to pay quite a bit more, and expect a relatively short shelf life after opened. You won't find it at Wal Mart.

 

There are a few applications where it can be used, but I do not use it in any area where there will be significant stress applied to the repair, or where you will need to take it apart again. This means that there may be some use for the product in pen repair, but it is very, very, very limited.

[eckiethump]

I don't see a problem using shellac... just remember if you ever have to remove that jewel it is going to require some heat.... or if you have someone else work on that pen make sure they know what to expect..

 

As for crazy glue .... they have absolutely no place in any type of pen repair.....

Sorry Tom, disagree with this, your comment I think is misleading as adhesive in this form does have a place in pen restoration/repair if used responsably.

et

 

I suggest that you read comments by both Ron Zorn and Richard Binder concerning that adhesive.... and consider the years and experience they have....

I suggest you read my original post and the post from RZ, before trying to shoot me down in flame. Everything and everyone has a place in this life somewhere.

Both RZ and RB are not gods, yes they have a lot of experiance which is very greatfully shared and learned from. It would be foolish to consider that vintage pen repair/restoration is not developing all the time. Look at the move on on from Frank Dubiels book to Laurence Oldfield and Jim Marshalls one, in the space of of what 30 years. To repair items which are perhaps 70-80 years old

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