Lamy Studio vs Lamy 2000

[zquilts]

I am thinking of getting a Lamy 2000 or a Studio. I don;t know much about Lamy's other than the two Safaris that I have.

I would be grateful to learn what the differences n these two pens are. Thank so much !

[Philip1209]

Someone asked me this question once, and here's the reply I sent:

 

First off, I think a gold nib is worth the investment over a steel one. A couple of the Lamy Studio pens come with a "palladium" nib that has 14 carat gold in it. It runs about $15 cheaper than the lamy 2000. Be careful- some of the studio pens have a regular steel nib like the Safaris, and then there are Studio models with the palladium nibs that are about $20 more than those with the steel nibs. You can look at the nib and see the difference- the palladium nibs have a two-tone nib with a gold streak down the center, while the stainless steel nibs are all steel.

 

Here's a picture of one of the palladium nibs:

http://www.pencity.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.ex...P.htm?E+scstore

 

My favorite source for Lamy pens is isellpens.com because their prices are the best (I have no association with them). Go to their Lamy page and compare the different pens in price and pictures. As far as I know, there are two Studio models with the palladium nib- a white model and a silver model.

 

The palladium model of the Studio would be a compromise between the Safari and the 2000 because it has a gold nib, but it still takes cartridges. All of the studios come with a converter (no extra charge) for filling from an ink bottle. Because it uses a converter, it will hold about half the ink that a 2000 can when filling from a bottle (that's just a rough estimate from me).

 

Here are a few details about the 2000: It has a somewhat slippery body, but holds up to scratches very well due to its more matte finish. Its ink reservoir holds a lot of ink, but can only fill from a bottle (with a piston fill mechanism). In addition, the nib is very wet and writes a thick line (while a steel Safari nib would be considered "dry"). I love my 2000 and wholeheartedly recommend it, but if you are not ready to make the leap to it, then I think a palladium Studio would be a good choice.

 

I hope this helps. If you have any additional questions, I'm happy to help.

 

 

[Titivillus]

Go with the 2000, it has been around for decades and is a wonderful reliable pen.

[zquilts]

Thanks so much Philip!

That does answer my questions I think.

Isellpens is a wonderful place- I totally agree!

 

I am leaning towards a 2000 I think - in a finer nib. The Safaris that I have are medium and are just a tad too wide. I love the wetness of the write with them though!

[zquilts]

Thanks and welcome back !

 

 

Go with the 2000, it has been around for decades and is a wonderful reliable pen.

 

[mstone]

I am thinking of getting a Lamy 2000 or a Studio. I don;t know much about Lamy's other than the two Safaris that I have.

I would be grateful to learn what the differences n these two pens are. Thank so much !

The studio is basically the same as the safari, but with a different finish. The 2000 is a completely different pen with a much more responsive nib, a piston fill mechanism, and an overall higher build quality that comes from a different era of pen making. If you like the way the safari writes, you'll probably like the studio & you may or may not like the 2000. (Some do, some don't.) For me, the 2000 is a much better writer.

[zquilts]

But what is that difference that makes some like the 2000 and some not. Is it drier ? wetter? what?

 

 

 

I am thinking of getting a Lamy 2000 or a Studio. I don;t know much about Lamy's other than the two Safaris that I have.

I would be grateful to learn what the differences n these two pens are. Thank so much !

The studio is basically the same as the safari, but with a different finish. The 2000 is a completely different pen with a much more responsive nib, a piston fill mechanism, and an overall higher build quality that comes from a different era of pen making. If you like the way the safari writes, you'll probably like the studio & you may or may not like the 2000. (Some do, some don't.) For me, the 2000 is a much better writer.

 

[lucentstreak]

The Lamy 2000 is a far wetter writer than say a safari. In terms of form and function, I would say that the 2000 feels very good as a long term writer. I would never trade mine and I'd say go for the gold nib. It really makes a big difference.

[blak000]

The Lamy 2000 only comes in gold.

 

I have owned both pens you are interested in. As someone mentioned before, the Studio has the same nib as the Safari. The higher end models are made of gold, instead of steel, but they're essentially the same design. In fact, the Safari nibs are interchangeable with the Studio's. I have done it with spare nibs I ordered from Swisher pens. If you go with the Studio, you're basically getting a Safari with a prettier face. Having said that, I still think the Studio is a great pen. One distinct plus (in my opinion) is that it doesn't have the triangular grip that some people dislike on the Safari; the grip is rounded. The pen has a great weight and sturdy design.

 

The 2000 is a completely different beast. You'll notice it the second you put the nib to the page. If working correctly, the 2000's nib will be one of the smoother ones you'll come across. It writes wet, and can feather and bleed without the right paper. The pen is lightweight. I believe it's lighter than the Studio. Been a while, though, so I can't be sure. The 2000's piston filler holds a good amount of ink, and its tough, makrolon body can really take a beating.

 

There are two main problems I have with the 2000:

 

1. QC - There are a good number of people who reported having issues with the 2000. Mine came with a misaligned nib, and the piston filler had a small leaking problem (this is very rare, though). However, LamyUSA was quick to deal with the problems, and I haven't had an issue with the pen since. The turnaround time was 2 weeks, so I wasn't waiting too long before I had the pen back in my hands.

 

2. Posting - In my experience, the 2000 doesn't post as securely as my other pens. I have to apply a bit of pressure (although not too much) in order to get the cap to stay on firmly. Otherwise, it'll slip off during random times while I'm writing. I stumbled on a thread about this very issue quite a while back, so I wasn't the only one with this problem.

 

As I said before, I've owned both pens. I still have the 2000. There are times I wish I hadn't sold the Studio, but, if I had to choose only one to keep, I'd stick with the 2000. I hope this helps.

[zquilts]

I am appreciative of the responses ! I'll be keeping my eyes open for a used 200 I think ... I know I'll find one here to try at some point, I like wet writers - and have been very surprised at the Safari's - I once thought I would never own a Lamy because I disliked the designs - but after trying the Safari's I changed my mind !

Thank you all for your help and for passing along your knowledge!

[PAKMAN]

I have both and love them both! I got each with an extra fine nib. Sometimes a 2000 extra fine is a little scratchy but mine is great. I wouldn't trade away either pen. I got the stainless Studio which comes with a black non metal finish section which I think makes it easier to hold than the metal sectioned Studios.

 

 

[zquilts]

 

Thank You ! I was offered one with an extra fine and I thought it might be too fine for me. The Safari's have mediums and I think a fine point would suit me quite well with these pens.

I loike the blue studio very much - much it does not appear to be available with a palladium nib - which I can see would be an advantage.

 

 

I have both and love them both! I got each with an extra fine nib. Sometimes a 2000 extra fine is a little scratchy but mine is great. I wouldn't trade away either pen. I got the stainless Studio which comes with a black non metal finish section which I think makes it easier to hold than the metal sectioned Studios.

 

[I am not a number]

Thank You ! I was offered one with an extra fine and I thought it might be too fine for me. The Safari's have mediums and I think a fine point would suit me quite well with these pens.

I loike the blue studio very much - much it does not appear to be available with a palladium nib - which I can see would be an advantage.

The good point about the Studio is the ability to mix and match the nibs, sections and parts. Some (including me) find the chrome section too slippery - but that being said, I find the section on the 2k rather slippy as well. There is a black rubberised grip available on the Studio which I find very comfortable.

 

As for the nibs, what has already been said pretty well nails it, the Studio nibs and the Safari nibs are interchangeable, I haven't noticed a marked difference between the gold and the steel but the 2k nib is a different beast, I find it far more responsive. The fine writes like a lot of people's idea of a medium; I had an extra fine for a while but will add my agreement that the example I had was somewhat scratchy (which seems to be the norm).

 

I would wager that whichtever you choose will be good, but you might want to push the experience levels and opt for the 2k. If you don't like it, there is always a market for them.

[Aysedasi]

I'd definitely suggest you go with the 2000. I think it's a wonderful pen, both aesthetically and writing-wise. Yes, it writes quite wet and wide, but that suits me. Mine posts fine as well.

[Shelley]

The only thing similar is the name, really they are completely different, but both would be good choices, if you do not have a piston fill then its a good one to start with, it writes a size up though so if you want a F then probably go for the EF, if you want a M then a F will work for you.

 

The gold nib, which is encased in platinum, is wondefully smooth, it does put down a wet line, but it holds a lot of ink so you are unlikely to run out in a hurry.

 

The other thing to note is that it is bult from the same material as bullet proof glass, this makes it very stong (bot do not drop it on its nib).

 

Finally it is iconic.

[MiniMaupassant]

I've had both pens and personally prefer the 2K because it is light and easy to write with. Also, the nib is sublime and the ink capacity and window are great features.

 

Although the Studios are really nice looking pens, I found the metal body and section difficult to work with, and I found it too heavy to use. The palladium nib was extremely smooth and lovely to write with though.

 

 

MM

[chainwhip]

My first fountain pen was a Studio and the clip annoyed me to no end. The clip scratched the h3!! out of my cap. Conversely, I've been such a fan of the 2000 that I've got 3 floating around home/office and 1 in a case.

 

There are two things I'd caution (as noted by others) in regards to the 2000:

 

1) Nib sizes tend to run WIDE in comparison to other LAMY pens.

2) Piston on the 2000 can fail on occaision - I've had to send mine back to Filofax (free fix, just send them a check for $7.95 for the return postage).

 

Edit: Added another item on the 2000:

 

3) Some people are annoyed by the "ears" or nubs between the body and section - try one out if you can.

Edited December 1, 2008 by chainwhip

[I am not a number]

3) Some people are annoyed by the "ears" or nubs between the body and section - try one out if you can.

I had forgotten about this as it isn't an issue for me, but it does really annoy some users, so this is a valid point - see if you can try one!