Montblanc Starwalker: original or not..?

[Yurigia]

 

 

Good morning,

 

one of my friend have buy on Ebay a Starwalker resin ballpoint, but this pen have some strange caratheristics, and I can't to say if it is original or not.

 

Someone can to help me...???

 

Than you can see in the picture the pen have the screw on the rear part of the pen, and I have one original and that have the screw on the other side of the pen.

 

Also the intification code is engraved on the clip and not near the written "Montblanc".

 

I attached some picture of the pen.

 

I wait your help...

 

Thank's...

 

Juri

 

 

[kubalai]

I have the full set from a Mb store in London UK, on my BP the code is not on the clip but where it says Montblanc. Bearing that in mind it cold be a fake.. although the screw thread is on the rear pen like yours..

 

 

[Yurigia]

 

 

Thank's a lot Kubalai...

 

so the screw is in correct position... this is possible that the pen is original...

 

I find this tutorial about the Montblanc's fake and I find that the first starwalker's pens are make with a serial code on the clip and in the future was make with this serial code near the written Montblanc. It is possible that this pen is one of the first produced...???

 

This is the tutorial:

 

TUTORIAL FAKE STARWALKER

 

It is in german language but the picture are really clear...

 

If someone can to help me I wait some answer...

 

Thank's

 

Juri

 

 

 

[penparadise]

Hi Juri,

 

That's exact the site I wanted to advert you to.

http://www.fountainpen.de/fakes/Starwalker...n-Fineliner.pdf

 

But in this pdf it is shown the rollerball, not the ballpoint. As your friend has the ballpoint you should not look after the threads but for the clip (underneath), the shape of the tip(!) of the clip and for the working of the laser-engraving of the serial number. The first serie had the laser-engravement on the clip, all later series had the laser-engraving on the clip-ring.

 

Good luck,

Axel

 

 

[Yurigia]

Hi Juri,

 

Hi Axel,

 

That's exact the site I wanted to advert you to.

http://www.fountainpen.de/fakes/Starwalker...n-Fineliner.pdf

 

But in this pdf it is shown the rollerball, not the ballpoint. As your friend has the ballpoint you should not look after the threads but for the clip (underneath)

 

The underneath clip is ok with the engraving Montblanc PIX than you can see in the picture...

 

the shape of the tip(!) of the clip and for the working of the laser-engraving of the serial number. The first serie had the laser-engravement on the clip, all later series had the laser-engraving on the clip-ring.

The laser engraving seems ok... it seems than an original... but there seems positioned not in the middle-top of the clip than in the picture of the tutorial, but in the middle-down... you can see it in the picture too...

 

I'm really in difficult to know if it is original... I must recognized it only in a picture made from my friend... if I can have it in hands I can know immediately if it is original or not...!!!

 

Can you help me in another way or will go in a Montblan store is the last chance to solve the problem...???

 

Thank's,

 

Juri

Edited April 2, 2008 by Yurigia

[GhostMeat]

I came on here looking for information about faked Starwalker ballpoints and I thought I'd share something.

 

I have a Black Resin ballpoint that I just compared with my Cool Blue Starwalker ballpoint and it matches up in every way except for one. I purchased the Black Resin one off of eBay and I bought the Cool Blue retail (so I know the Cool Blue is absolutely real).

 

As I said, they both match up perfectly in every way except for the screw threads connecting the barrel to the twist top. On my Starwalker Cool Blue that I bought retail (used to sign my marriage certificate! That was my excuse for getting it. Hah!), when you disassemble the tip from the barrel, both screw thread sides are metal. Also the male side of the screw thread extends from the tip, not the barrel.

 

I'm a fanatic about a great many things, but not pens. Not knowing much I thought it's either fake or maybe that's the way they were made early on. I dunno. Check out the inside of the barrel below. Fake?

Edited July 25, 2012 by GhostMeat

[jar]

I came on here looking for information about faked Starwalker ballpoints and I thought I'd share something.

 

I have a Black Resin ballpoint that I just compared with my Cool Blue Starwalker ballpoint and it matches up in every way except for one. I purchased the Black Resin one off of eBay and I bought the Cool Blue retail (so I know the Cool Blue is absolutely real).

 

As I said, they both match up perfectly in every way except for the screw threads connecting the barrel to the twist top. I'm a fanatic about a great many things, but not pens. Not knowing much I thought it's either fake or maybe that's the way they were made early on. I dunno. Check out the inside of the barrel below. Fake?

 

Can't help you but Welcome home. Pull up a stump and set a spell.

[Montblanc owner and lover]

the screw is white?...Honnestly i don't know but generaly in MB it's dark...

[GhostMeat]

Oh no, the screw is actually the right color. I guess the photo is a little off. I'm just pointing out that the screw end on my Cool Blue is actually on the tip side, not the barrel side.

 

In the photos above, the barrel screws into the tip. On my Cool Blue, bought ~2009, the tip screws into the barrel (and both sides are "platinum"). I'm just verifying what I have here is a fake or not. Everything about it is 100% the same as my Montblanc boutique-bought Cool Blue except for this screw thing. Maybe what I have here is an earlier or later version. I don't know. I figured someone here might.

 

 

 

the screw is white?...Honnestly i don't know but generaly in MB it's dark...

[Chrissy]

I came on here looking for information about faked Starwalker ballpoints and I thought I'd share something.

 

I have a Black Resin ballpoint that I just compared with my Cool Blue Starwalker ballpoint and it matches up in every way except for one. I purchased the Black Resin one off of eBay and I bought the Cool Blue retail (so I know the Cool Blue is absolutely real).

 

As I said, they both match up perfectly in every way except for the screw threads connecting the barrel to the twist top. On my Starwalker Cool Blue that I bought retail (used to sign my marriage certificate! That was my excuse for getting it. Hah!), when you disassemble the tip from the barrel, both screw thread sides are metal. Also the male side of the screw thread extends from the tip, not the barrel.

 

I'm a fanatic about a great many things, but not pens. Not knowing much I thought it's either fake or maybe that's the way they were made early on. I dunno. Check out the inside of the barrel below. Fake?

 

I don't have a Starwalker ballpoint for comparison, but if you are saying that on the Cool Blue the screw thread extends out of the tip and on the black resin it extends out of the barrel then surely one of these has to be a counterfeit. Montblanc wouldn't make two completely different types of Starwalker barrels and tips. If you bought your Cool Blue from an authorised retailer then that one must be authentic

 

If you compare the clip length, then the longer one should be authentic. Also, if there is a serial number on the clip rather than on the clip band then this often suggests a fake, although I believe that somewhere someone shows some authentic Starwalkers with serial numbers on their clips. I'm not sure how that would work as clips break and need replacing, so for that reason I would only buy a Starwalker from a Montblanc boutique.

[Chrissy]

Good morning,

 

one of my friend have buy on Ebay a Starwalker resin ballpoint, but this pen have some strange caratheristics, and I can't to say if it is original or not.

 

Someone can to help me...???

 

Than you can see in the picture the pen have the screw on the rear part of the pen, and I have one original and that have the screw on the other side of the pen.

 

Also the intification code is engraved on the clip and not near the written "Montblanc".

 

I attached some picture of the pen.

 

I wait your help...

 

Thank's...

 

Juri

 

I see no picture, but from your description your friends pen is a counterfeit.

 

It would seem that the screw thread needs to come out of the tip and screw into the barrel not the other way around. Also, the serial number is usually on the clip band next to the clip like yours.

 

The pictures on fountainpen.de will help you though as they show the differences in the clip.

[GhostMeat]

I see no picture, but from your description your friends pen is a counterfeit.

 

It would seem that the screw thread needs to come out of the tip and screw into the barrel not the other way around. Also, the serial number is usually on the clip band next to the clip like yours.

 

The pictures on fountainpen.de will help you though as they show the differences in the clip.

 

Sorry, if you were referring my my post, I am talking about the two large photos in my previous post. Those are of the ballpoint in question.

 

It's interesting though...I went online to search for very large photos of ball points (with the twist mechanism) and I am finding that more and more look like my pen in question than the pen that I purchased from the Montblanc boutique in Washington D.C.! I'm attaching two photos below (Damn, this iPhone camera is good!). This illustrates how the male end of the screw threads is on opposite sides. But also note that, on the Cool Blue, when unscrewed, there is metal on both the male and female side of the pen. When the two sides are screwed together, you can see a crease where they connect. on the Black Resin, there is no crease...it's just a solid band.

 

When I did a quick search of Ball Points on the web, non of them have metal on both sides of the screw thread. And, here's the kicker -- I went and took shots from the montblanc.com website and they all look like my Black Resin ball point in question. I dunno...I think I'm on to something.

Edited July 27, 2012 by GhostMeat

[Chrissy]

I see no picture, but from your description your friends pen is a counterfeit.

 

It would seem that the screw thread needs to come out of the tip and screw into the barrel not the other way around. Also, the serial number is usually on the clip band next to the clip like yours.

 

The pictures on fountainpen.de will help you though as they show the differences in the clip.

 

Sorry, if you were referring my my post, I am talking about the two large photos in my previous post. Those are of the ballpoint in question.

 

It's interesting though...I went online to search for very large photos of ball points (with the twist mechanism) and I am finding that more and more look like my pen in question than the pen that I purchased from the Montblanc boutique in Washington D.C.! I'm attaching two photos below (Damn, this iPhone camera is good!). This illustrates how the male end of the screw threads is on opposite sides. But also note that, on the Cool Blue, when unscrewed, there is metal on both the male and female side of the pen. When the two sides are screwed together, you can see a crease where they connect. on the Black Resin, there is no crease...it's just a solid band.

 

When I did a quick search of Ball Points on the web, non of them have metal on both sides of the screw thread. And, here's the kicker -- I went and took shots from the montblanc.com website and they all look like my Black Resin ball point in question. I dunno...I think I'm on to something.

 

Hmmm that's curiouser and curiouser. I will also do some investigating. Maybe they did make the Cool Blue in a completely different way. It does seem weird.

[GhostMeat]

I have two excellent resources I will probably go and consult. I live here in the DC Metro area and we have a Montblanc boutique as well as Paradise Pen nearby. I'll swing by sometime and see what they say. I'm actually guessing that the pen I have is just fine. The eBay seller I bought it off of deals in a lot of fine writing instruments and they seem genuinely surprised that it's possibly fake. But they don't know enough to be able to explain the photographs I've detailed in this post, I guess.

 

BTW, I just hopped over to montblanc.com and I see that the cool blue they have photographed there appears to have a band consistent with my black resin pen in question. But other photos do show the double-sided screw situation. So...maybe they just did it the single-sided way to save money? I don't know.

 

 

I see no picture, but from your description your friends pen is a counterfeit.

 

It would seem that the screw thread needs to come out of the tip and screw into the barrel not the other way around. Also, the serial number is usually on the clip band next to the clip like yours.

 

The pictures on fountainpen.de will help you though as they show the differences in the clip.

 

Sorry, if you were referring my my post, I am talking about the two large photos in my previous post. Those are of the ballpoint in question.

 

It's interesting though...I went online to search for very large photos of ball points (with the twist mechanism) and I am finding that more and more look like my pen in question than the pen that I purchased from the Montblanc boutique in Washington D.C.! I'm attaching two photos below (Damn, this iPhone camera is good!). This illustrates how the male end of the screw threads is on opposite sides. But also note that, on the Cool Blue, when unscrewed, there is metal on both the male and female side of the pen. When the two sides are screwed together, you can see a crease where they connect. on the Black Resin, there is no crease...it's just a solid band.

 

When I did a quick search of Ball Points on the web, non of them have metal on both sides of the screw thread. And, here's the kicker -- I went and took shots from the montblanc.com website and they all look like my Black Resin ball point in question. I dunno...I think I'm on to something.

 

Hmmm that's curiouser and curiouser. I will also do some investigating. Maybe they did make the Cool Blue in a completely different way. It does seem weird.

Edited July 29, 2012 by GhostMeat

[GhostMeat]

Just to put a fork in this...

 

I did go to the Montblanc store in Tyson's Corner VA and we did confirm that the pen I've been describing is legit! I guess they really did change their manufacturing process and design. Kinda sucks, cause I liked the old design. it was a tiny bit weightier and I like that.

 

But anyway...all the photos documented in my previous posts are of legitimate Montblanc designs.

 

 

gm.

 

 

I have two excellent resources I will probably go and consult. I live here in the DC Metro area and we have a Montblanc boutique as well as Paradise Pen nearby. I'll swing by sometime and see what they say. I'm actually guessing that the pen I have is just fine. The eBay seller I bought it off of deals in a lot of fine writing instruments and they seem genuinely surprised that it's possibly fake. But they don't know enough to be able to explain the photographs I've detailed in this post, I guess.

 

BTW, I just hopped over to montblanc.com and I see that the cool blue they have photographed there appears to have a band consistent with my black resin pen in question. But other photos do show the double-sided screw situation. So...maybe they just did it the single-sided way to save money? I don't know.