Pilot Iroshizuku Syun-Gyo

[Black16]

On 7/14/2025 at 11:32 AM, yazeh said:

I had forgotten about those nibs. I believe Waverly had similar nibs. Lovely images and photos.

 

Yeah Waverly is a dream I hope to get one day

 

Thanks!

[Black16]

On 7/6/2025 at 2:25 PM, LizEF said:

Yes, most are.  PenBBS appear to use a different type of shimmer.  I think Colorverse do as well.

If I may ask, are Colorverse as wet as De Atramentis? I plan to get some of their inks but if they are that wet I might reconsider getting a lot... Also was wondering the same about Robert Oster, KWZ, Rohrer and Klinger and recently here at FPN I was recommended Leonardo Officiano Italia, if you know anything about these - I'll be grateful for any info! For example, Pelikan nowadays seems to be as dry as it was two decades ago when I used it for the last time, I'd prefer to avoid dry inks as well.

Hope I spelt all the names correctly

[LizEF]

3 hours ago, Black16 said:

If I may ask, are Colorverse as wet as De Atramentis?

It varies by ink.  I've had very wet and very dry inks from Colorverse.  De Atramentis are the only manufacturer I can think of who seem to go out of their way to make every ink quite wet.  For everyone else, it varies by ink (which is what I would expect - chemistry and all ).

 

3 hours ago, Black16 said:

Robert Oster

Blues and greens tend to be wet.  Yellows and reds dry.  Other colors vary.

 

3 hours ago, Black16 said:

KWZ, Rohrer and Klinger

Both underrated.  Flow will vary by the ink.

 

The spreadsheet from @InesF's thread is the best source for ink flow (work back from the last page, looking for a link to a google sheet for the most recent data):

 

And second best is An Ink Guy on YouTube.

 

3 hours ago, Black16 said:

Leonardo Officiano Italia

Haven't used even one of their inks, so no idea.

[Lord Fontleroy]

On 7/2/2025 at 1:19 PM, Black16 said:

P.S.:

I'll list here other inks I own and love and use often and plan to review, if someone's interested in any of these - please let me know so I'll choose them first:

I for one would love to see closeups of Doyou and Syun-gyo side by side from the same pen.

[Black16]

On 7/18/2025 at 1:56 PM, LizEF said:

It varies by ink.  I've had very wet and very dry inks from Colorverse.  De Atramentis are the only manufacturer I can think of who seem to go out of their way to make every ink quite wet.  For everyone else, it varies by ink (which is what I would expect - chemistry and all ).

 

Blues and greens tend to be wet.  Yellows and reds dry.  Other colors vary.

 

Both underrated.  Flow will vary by the ink.

 

The spreadsheet from @InesF's thread is the best source for ink flow (work back from the last page, looking for a link to a google sheet for the most recent data):

 

And second best is An Ink Guy on YouTube.

 

Haven't used even one of their inks, so no idea.

 

Yeah I always expect different colours to be different in wetness but after De Atramentis decided to better ask

 

With chemistry actually one can tweak all the inks to feel the same no matter what but am aware 'tis a tedious thing so totally understandable why it is rarely done!

 

And the link to that thread is very helpful, I'll examine it ASAP. So far ordered two Robert Oster's, one KWZ, R&K iron gall, some others inks I can't recall and a bunch of Noodler's (seems I can never go wrong with his inks, incredible). Found a lot of other interesting brands from all over the world but am so picky when it comes to colours I write with so I have to think more than twice before ordering anything.

[Black16]

On 8/3/2025 at 6:32 AM, Lord Fontleroy said:

I for one would love to see closeups of Doyou and Syun-gyo side by side from the same pen.

I haven't used Doyou for months, thank you for reminding me about it. Are you interested in any particular nib sizes? Finer, broader, dip nibs?

[Lord Fontleroy]

Most useful would be from the same average-flowing fountain pen. I have seen swatches and dip pen writing side by side but never normal fountain pen conditions. Doyou is one of my favorites, but it's difficult to photograph the color undertones in such a dark ink. I think of Syun-gyo and Doyou as maybe dark and much darker purple.

[Black16]

On 8/8/2025 at 10:38 PM, Lord Fontleroy said:

Most useful would be from the same average-flowing fountain pen. I have seen swatches and dip pen writing side by side but never normal fountain pen conditions. Doyou is one of my favorites, but it's difficult to photograph the color undertones in such a dark ink. I think of Syun-gyo and Doyou as maybe dark and much darker purple.

I will try to find some of my old notes made with bigger nibs and will ink up something with a regular Jowo <M> then. Actually Syun-Gyo isn't that dark, Doyou is a lot darker. The closest to it I have is ONLINE Cedar Wood which is very dark cool purple (almost black) and Pierre Cardin Logos Black if both used in <B> nibs.