Hongdian C3 Clones

[Dan Carmell]

My first thought was ‘New colors for the C3!’ But these are Yongsheng 3638 pens, or so the ad says. At the same time, search on AliExpress finds zero C3 fountain pens (still available on eBay or Etsy).

 

Yongsheng is the transliteration of the Cantonese name of Wing Sung, I believe. And although the images below are low rez, I think that’s a Wing Sung nib, but otherwise this pen appears to be identical to the Hongdian C3. Anyway, new colors!

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

Wingsung 3xxx, made in jiangxi. 

 

 

Wingsung 6xx, made by Junlai in Shanghai, license till 2028. 

[Number99]

9 hours ago, Shanghai Knife Dude said:

Wingsung 3xxx, made in jiangxi. 

 

文港镇？ If so, the information matches some of the rumors I have read.

 

9 hours ago, Shanghai Knife Dude said:

license till 2028

 

Both? Or 6xx only? That's something I've been wondering about for a while.

And, is there any possibility that a manufacturer other than Junlai will be licensed to manufacture 6xx in the future (After 2029.)?

 

Edited May 18, 2025 by Number99
Added (After 2029.)

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

On 5/18/2025 at 6:12 PM, Number99 said:

 

文港镇？ If so, the information matches some of the rumors I have read.

 

 

Both? Or 6xx only? That's something I've been wondering about for a while.

And, is there any possibility that a manufacturer other than Junlai will be licensed to manufacture 6xx in the future (After 2029.)?

 

1. Wingsung 3xxx in Jiangxi ain't rumours, just look at the price tag, cny20 for a piston filler. Simply amazing! 

 

Jiangxi is also oem base for resin-wood pens for quite a few renowned global bands, at insanely low price. 

 

The only wood pen I regard at fair price and owned afterwards, is Jinhao 9036/9056. And a Uni 2005 mechanical pencil, simply for aesthetics, but that will be it. 

 

Same Hermes bag game is played in there. Hermes bag is almost finished in China for $600/piece, ship to France, polish the final metal parts, according to EU rule it is officially proudly MAKD IN FRANCE for starting $60000/piece. 

 

2. I don't know. Wait and see. Get the wallet ready and hope Globalisation keeps on track. 

 

I see current Junlai brand is prominent enough to stay away from Wingsung. 

 

Junlai is private own entity, while Wingsung brand ownership is a state own entity. Never an example of these two types getting along with each other well since 1958. History just repeats itself. 

[Number99]

On 5/19/2025 at 3:48 PM, Shanghai Knife Dude said:

1. Wingsung 3xxx in Jiangxi ain't rumours, just look at the price tag, cny20 for a piston filler. Simply amazing! 

 

 

 

Jiangxi is also oem base for resin-wood pens for quite a few renowned global bands, at insanely low price. 

 

 

 

The only wood pen I regard at fair price and owned afterwards, is Jinhao 9036/9056. And a Uni 2005 mechanical pencil, simply for aesthetics, but that will be it. 

 

 

 

Same Hermes bag game is played in there. Hermes bag is almost finished in China for $600/piece, ship to France, polish the final metal parts, according to EU rule it is officially proudly MAKD IN FRANCE for starting $60000/piece. 

 

Hearing this, it was as if a fog had lifted in front of me and I could see the entirety of the modern Chinese fountain pen industry.

I have viewed an article with some photos of the factory, although only one factory.

It was a bit of a relief.

 

On 5/19/2025 at 3:48 PM, Shanghai Knife Dude said:

I see current Junlai brand is prominent enough to stay away from Wingsung. 

 

I was afraid that if Junlai Green stuck to the Wingsung brand, there would be confusion with 3xxx, which would work against them.

 

Edited May 20, 2025 by Number99
Correction of incorrect citations.

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

4 hours ago, Number99 said:

 

Hearing this, it was as if a fog had lifted in front of me and I could see the entirety of the modern Chinese fountain pen industry.

I have viewed an article with some photos of the factory, although only one factory.

It was a bit of a relief.

 

 

I was afraid that if Junlai Green stuck to the Wingsung brand, there would be confusion with 3xxx, which would work against them.

 

Junlai Wingsung is for sure taking a much more premium quality and his Jiangxi counterparts. 

 

 

I highly recommend Junlai ebonite models, best bang of bucks of entire fountain pen industry. 

[Dan Carmell]

41 minutes ago, Shanghai Knife Dude said:

Junlai Wingsung is for sure taking a much more premium quality and his Jiangxi counterparts. 

 

 

I highly recommend Junlai ebonite models, best bang of bucks of entire fountain pen industry. 

100% on the JunLai ebonites!

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

18 hours ago, Dan Carmell said:

100% on the JunLai ebonites!

I am saying this basing on factual finds. 

 

Here are some shots from Junlai warehouse: https://www.instagram.com/p/DJtRm_APWQo/?img_index=2&igsh=bHpmMWtpaHM5M2k2

 

Junlai doesn't mention a signal word on her supplier of ebonite. So I find out it is from SEM Germany Junlai made purchase from. Only SEM ebonite delivers a final high shine polish as such. 

 

The quotation price of SEM rod is also open information. Insanely expensive. 

 

So, it's not that difficult to work out the raw material price of each ebonite pen. 

 

Plus, Junlai ebonite is in piston, which requires more labour hours/process than too boring convertors from other makers. 

 

So,

1. Rolls Royce grade ebonite from Deutschland;

2. complication of piston. But the price of Junlai ebonite is severely underrated at the moment, just judge by all the specification. 

3. On contrary, other ebonite pens on the market, with inferior specifications, but at much higher price. Or simply due to its low efficiency managing the production cost? Made in an expensive country, under name of craftsmanship, is a typical consumerism fallacy. How difficult could it be in 2025 to make an ebonite piston? Do these brands deserve that much premium on intangible brand value? You need to convince yourself on this point. My pick will be Junlai ebonite with normal grinding nib. 

 

[Shanghai Knife Dude]

Maybe I should start a new thread to keep this C3 thread not that much misdirected. People click in here to learn a C3, end up ordering a Junlai ebonite. 

[jthole]

On 5/21/2025 at 10:22 AM, Shanghai Knife Dude said:

People click in here to learn a C3, end up ordering a Junlai ebonite. 

 

Very tempting  ...