montblancoutlet

[Seney724]

Those who waste er.... "spend" any time on the Montblanc sales section of USA eBay has surely noticed the huge, simultaneous posts which often occur several times daily by a seller who goes by "montblancoutlet."  In general, the sales posts are the same pens again and again and again.   At this point, this seller is outpacing the rate of duplicate posts contributed by sellers purporting to be from Japan.  (I say "purporting" because there is a member who is adamant that most of them are not really from Japan but I, for one, have not been able to establish that as a fact.)

 

Anyway, my questions are:

 

1) What's the story with this seller?  They seem to have good feedback and so I assume they are legitimate......but, a Montblanc outlet??  I don't think so.........

2) Regardless, how can they get away with referring to themselves, even if a tad subtle in the way they do it, as a Montblanc outlet?  For that part, I have to wonder how they have avoided attracting the attention of Montblanc Internet police force and the army of lawyers which Montblanc employs to shut down anything they don't condone or officially endorse?

 

As long as Montblanc does not care there is nothing to see here, I suppose, but I'm hoping someone can give us more of the back story about this seller.

 

 

[NoType]

22 minutes ago, Seney724 said:

Those who waste er.... "spend" any time on the Montblanc sales section of USA eBay has surely noticed the huge, simultaneous posts which often occur several times daily by a seller who goes by "montblancoutlet."  In general, the sales posts are the same pens again and again and again.   At this point, this seller is outpacing the rate of duplicate posts contributed by sellers purporting to be from Japan.  (I say "purporting" because there is a member who is adamant that most of them are not really from Japan but I, for one, have not been able to establish that as a fact.)

 

Anyway, my questions are:

 

1) What's the story with this seller?  They seem to have good feedback and so I assume they are legitimate......but, a Montblanc outlet??  I don't think so.........

2) Regardless, how can they get away with referring to themselves, even if a tad subtle in the way they do it, as a Montblanc outlet?  For that part, I have to wonder how they have avoided attracting the attention of Montblanc Internet police force and the army of lawyers which Montblanc employs to shut down anything they don't condone or officially endorse?

 

As long as Montblanc does not care there is nothing to see here, I suppose, but I'm hoping someone can give us more of the back story about this seller.

 

 

@Seney724 I was not aware of this eBay seller, who goes by both “montblancoutlet” and “Luxury Gifts America” with an avatar that pictures “Authentic Luxury Brands USA,”

 

but having just visited their site, I was astonished at the vast quantity of listings for a relatively narrow selection of offerings; for example, they have a quantity of six new old stock MST 145 Bordeaux available, which is remarkable for a hard-to-find model.

 

I am equally mystified and alarmed.  Unfortunately, I have no answers to your astute questions, but like you I hope that someone here does.

 

 

[Christopher Godfrey]

Well, gosh: (they) "we has been building" (sic) a premier online shop for thirty years -- slow builders: I'd get another contractor in! 

 

Forgive the flippancy, Seney.

[Seney724]

20 minutes ago, Christopher Godfrey said:

Well, gosh: (they) "we has been building" (sic) a premier online shop for thirty years -- slow builders: I'd get another contractor in! 

 

Forgive the flippancy, Seney.

No "flippancy" Christopher, it is hard not to have that thought cross your mind.  It definitely crossed mine.

The other thing that haunts me is what @NoTypepointed out about they're having an abundant supply of at least one MB model (MST 145) Bordeaux that the rest of us have thought was impossible to find.  There was a recent thread here about that pen and that discussion is what took me down the road with my curiosity.  Not making any judgments or hinting at anything.  Just attracted my attention and looking to see if anybody knew anything about them.

[a student]

To be sure, I suspect that there does exist a genuine Montblanc outlet: 

https://www.thebicestercollection.com/bicester-village/en/brands/montblanc/   

And indeed, there may be others as well

Edited March 17 by a student
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[Seney724]

13 hours ago, a student said:

To be sure, I suspect that there does exist a genuine Montblanc outlet: 

https://www.thebicestercollection.com/bicester-village/en/brands/montblanc/   

And indeed, there may be others as well

Thank you @a student, I was not aware of this business.

 

I wonder if Montblanc would acknowledge them to be an "official, fully certified" Montblanc outlet or not?  Maybe someone knows or knows how to find out.

As for the presence of others, I'd be curious to know this, too.

 

All this said, I do not think the eBay seller "montblancoutlet" serves either Montblanc or its customers in any official or certified capacity.

[Penguincollector]

  I know the MontBlanc outlet at Sawgrass Mills Mall in FL shows up as an official location on their website, so my guess is that others would as well. Independent authorized stores will also appear on the store locator. I remember seeing an online only fountain pen store grousing about MB not allowing non brick and mortar stores to be official outlets for their products, so I haven’t tried to find any. 

[Seney724]

18 minutes ago, Penguincollector said:

  I know the MontBlanc outlet at Sawgrass Mills Mall in FL shows up as an official location on their website, so my guess is that others would as well. Independent authorized stores will also appear on the store locator. I remember seeing an online only fountain pen store grousing about MB not allowing non brick and mortar stores to be official outlets for their products, so I haven’t tried to find any. 

Thanks for this information @Penguincollector.  All I see on the official MB website is a listing for a MB Boutique at Sawgrass Mills; I can't find any mention of a MB Outlet Store there.....I must be missing it.

Would you mind posting the link to it?

[Penguincollector]

Sawgrass Mills is an outlet mall, all the stores in it are outlets, or at least they were. 

[Paul-in-SF]

An "outlet" store these days is usually one where items that didn't sell at regular prices at regular stores are made available for sale at discounted prices, in order to unload them. Is that what this Montblanc store does? Or are they a regular Montlanc store (perhaps not calling themselves a boutique)?

 

Sorry, this is somewhat off topic for the thread, but if I ever happen to be in Fort Lauderdale again, it might be worth stopping in. 

[Seney724]

50 minutes ago, Penguincollector said:

Sawgrass Mills is an outlet mall, all the stores in it are outlets, or at least they were. 

Point well taken.  What you say makes perfect sense.

But, Montblanc refers to their Store at that location as one of their Boutiques (no different than any of their other Boutiques) and makes no mention of their having an Outlet Store there....... or anywhere else.

 

This distinction may just be a matter of "shades of grey."   However, I cannot believe situation with the eBay seller is the same kind of thing.  Which takes me back to my original point.  How do they get away with it knowing how protective MB is about their name and relationships?

 

[JCC123]

“montblancoutlet” or “Luxury Gifts America” sells fake Montblanc pens. I did a bit of research and also contacted them about their pens. First, they don't provide official stamps on the warranty card. Second, some of the photos from their sales are clearly Chinese fakes. You can tell if you look closely and have experience with Montblanc pens. Avoid at all cost.

[Seney724]

11 hours ago, JCC123 said:

“montblancoutlet” or “Luxury Gifts America” sells fake Montblanc pens. I did a bit of research and also contacted them about their pens. First, they don't provide official stamps on the warranty card. Second, some of the photos from their sales are clearly Chinese fakes. You can tell if you look closely and have experience with Montblanc pens. Avoid at all cost.

Thanks for your report about your due diligence.

 

It is certainly tempting to assume that this seller is selling some fake Montblancs; that is one of the reasons why I initiated this thread.  Your report is quite insightful and hopefully will prevent some unsuspecting person from acquiring a fake Montblanc from them.  This especially since most who might buy from them would not have your vast experience and sharp, discerning eye.

 

What continues to puzzle me is (again) 1) How they get away with it given the keen eye Montblanc keeps on detecting patent infringements, etc. and 2) How they have managed to acquire such a large percentage of very positive feedback? 

 

Of interest is recently a buyer did provide negative feedback alleging they sold him a fake and this is their response: 

 

"All of our designer items are sourced directly from Manufacturer or Authorized Dealers and authenticated by leading experts. We have earned nearly 250 positive reviews on eBay and over 1,000 across all e-commerce platforms. Recently, a customer attempted to manipulate us by threatening a negative review if we didn’t issue a refund outside of our 30-day return policy. This was reported to the proper authorities. You can shop with confidence, knowing we uphold the highest standards of integrity."

 

eBay, of course, is not known for its ethical practices; I'm wondering if they are complicit?

 

 

[JCC123]

34 minutes ago, Seney724 said:

What continues to puzzle me is (again) 1) How they get away with it given the keen eye Montblanc keeps on detecting patent infringements, etc. and 2) How they have managed to acquire such a large percentage of very positive feedback? 

 

eBay, of course, is not known for its ethical practices; I'm wondering if they are complicit?

 

 

Most people would not be interested in reporting to eBay about a vendor selling fakes. They only report it after discovering that they were sold a fake and most people would not even be aware that it's a fake. A lot of people bought the ballpoint 164 and rollerball 163 from them which are the easiest to fake and they look very authentic even for folks like us who know about them. It's like minting money because they sell the pens closer to the retail price for pens they get from China for $10. Selling the pens closer to retail removes suspicion from buyers. You can see that this vendor fell through the cracks for being very good at selling good fakes.

[Seney724]

8 minutes ago, JCC123 said:

Most people would not be interested in reporting to eBay about a vendor selling fakes. They only report it after discovering that they were sold a fake and most people would not even be aware that it's a fake. A lot of people bought the ballpoint 164 from them which are the easiest to fake and they look very authentic even for folks like us who know about them. It's like minting money because they sell the pens closer to the retail price for pens they get from China for $10. Selling the pens closer to retail removes suspicion from buyers. You can see that this vendor fell through the cracks for being very good at selling good fakes.

Makes sense.

A shameful practice and equally shameful is the eBay has turned their head and looks the other way.  Presumably so they can share in the largesse.

 

What's your take on why the MB lawyers are not taking this outfit down for using the MB name, MB logos and inferring they are a MB outlet?

[JCC123]

Not sure, they may not know about it fully. I have a feeling that they probably do sell some legit pens but there are quite a few things wrong with how they go about their business, such as not having stamps on their warranty. The way they respond or not respond to customers is also throwing red flags. Lastly, their photos are mostly stock and their marketing photos of their store and about us spiel all show someone trying too hard to appear legitimate. There are too many red flags.

[Cyrille81]

And on eBay when you are reporting vendor selling fake pens, Montblanc or other brands, eBay does nothing in general!

 

If the prices are too attractives, in general, it means it is fake!

[Sailor Kenshin]

22 hours ago, Seney724 said:

Thanks for your report about your due diligence.

 

It is certainly tempting to assume that this seller is selling some fake Montblancs; that is one of the reasons why I initiated this thread.  Your report is quite insightful and hopefully will prevent some unsuspecting person from acquiring a fake Montblanc from them.  This especially since most who might buy from them would not have your vast experience and sharp, discerning eye.

 

What continues to puzzle me is (again) 1) How they get away with it given the keen eye Montblanc keeps on detecting patent infringements, etc. and 2) How they have managed to acquire such a large percentage of very positive feedback? 

 

Of interest is recently a buyer did provide negative feedback alleging they sold him a fake and this is their response: 

 

"All of our designer items are sourced directly from Manufacturer or Authorized Dealers and authenticated by leading experts. We have earned nearly 250 positive reviews on eBay and over 1,000 across all e-commerce platforms. Recently, a customer attempted to manipulate us by threatening a negative review if we didn’t issue a refund outside of our 30-day return policy. This was reported to the proper authorities. You can shop with confidence, knowing we uphold the highest standards of integrity."

 

eBay, of course, is not known for its ethical practices; I'm wondering if they are complicit?

 

 

'Authorized dealers' of exactly… what?

[Seney724]

9 minutes ago, Sailor Kenshin said:

'Authorized dealers' of exactly… what?

I dunno......

?"Authorized "fakes??

[DimitriDiak]

On 3/17/2025 at 3:56 PM, Seney724 said:

Thank you @a student, I was not aware of this business.

 

I wonder if Montblanc would acknowledge them to be an "official, fully certified" Montblanc outlet or not?  Maybe someone knows or knows how to find out.

As for the presence of others, I'd be curious to know this, too.

 

All this said, I do not think the eBay seller "montblancoutlet" serves either Montblanc or its customers in any official or certified capacity.

 

I’m also sceptical about the eBay seller but unfortunately I cannot offer any more insight.

 

Regarding the link to Bicester Village the attached is from the Montblanc website but it appears unrelated to the eBay seller.