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Greetings.

 

I've been eyeing both the P126 and P136. Despite the 136 currently being a bit less spendy than the 126 (on AliExpress, I prefer the 126 because I prefer demonstrators. However, I'd like the stub option available for the 136. So my question for anyone who know is: Do 136 nibs (not collars, I see that they're different) fit in the 126? I'm hoping the answer is "yes", but I suspect I already "no" the answer.

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

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Sorry, I can't answer your question.

 

About the Asvine, I suppose you mean V126?

I have one in EF, I have it since September and love it. And I love it in spite of the cap being easy to crossthread. I think that's a problem with my particular pen, not a general characteristic of the model, because I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere. Anyway, I love how it writes and how it feels in the hand and it's probably my most used pen since I have it.

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56 minutes ago, Junebe said:

About the Asvine, I suppose you mean V126?

 

Nope, I mean the Majohn P136 and the Asvine V126. Fill method is irelevant (to me), I'm more interested in potential interchangeability of nibs. Sorry for the confusion. I start a message, do some work, edit a message, do some work, occasionally hit <enter> before I should and then forget to make corrections.

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Yes, that's the Asvine I have.

This will not give a definitive  answer your question but might help. There is a youtube video of Inkquiring Minds in which he shows that the Asvine P20 and Moonman T1 nib units are interchangeable. I believe the P20 and V126 use the same nib units.

And then someone in reddit fitted a P136 nib in a Majohn T2. Now, I don't know if the T1 and T2 use the same nib units, but if they do, then it should be possible to fit a P136 nib in the Asvine V126.

 

 

 

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ETA: solved my problem with small padded pliers and a hemostat with fine bent tips.  The pen is now much juicier than it was originally but can use a bit more work. /ETA

 

Got my P136 late last week with the 1.1mm factory stub. I'm in the Sahara desert with this pen! I guess I expect stubs to be juicy by default and this one is definitely not. I can see the problem, I think: under my 10x loupe the tines appear to be nearly touching. So at minimum I need to spread the tines a bit, and possibly enhance the ink channel under the nib. All things I'm willing to attempt.

 

Problem? I can't figure out how to remove the nib and feed. Do I really need the special tool for this, or can I  use some alternate tool I might already own (lots of tools here, to include my father's-in-law jeweler's tools)? I think I want to like the pen but this nib needs help. Also I need to be able to swap the nib units, since I have the EF/F/M ones as accessories.

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I hadn’t really thought of it because I prefer a drier nib, but my 1.1mm nib isn’t juicy at all. Very smooth and adequately wet for me, but probably not for most people. 
 

I wonder if Jin Hao, with its first stub nib, didn’t adequately modify the nib/feed assembly to permit increased ink flow for a stub. I’ll be curious to see if others experience this too. 

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17 hours ago, SLinkster said:

ETA: solved my problem with small padded pliers and a hemostat with fine bent tips.  The pen is now much juicier than it was originally but can use a bit more work. /ETA

 

Got my P136 late last week with the 1.1mm factory stub. I'm in the Sahara desert with this pen! I guess I expect stubs to be juicy by default and this one is definitely not. I can see the problem, I think: under my 10x loupe the tines appear to be nearly touching. So at minimum I need to spread the tines a bit, and possibly enhance the ink channel under the nib. All things I'm willing to attempt.

 

Problem? I can't figure out how to remove the nib and feed. Do I really need the special tool for this, or can I  use some alternate tool I might already own (lots of tools here, to include my father's-in-law jeweler's tools)? I think I want to like the pen but this nib needs help. Also I need to be able to swap the nib units, since I have the EF/F/M ones as accessories.

P136 requires a special wrench for removing the nib unit and the piston mechanism.

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14 hours ago, Dan Carmell said:

I wonder if Jin Hao, with its first stub nib, didn’t adequately modify the nib/feed assembly to permit increased ink flow for a stub.

 

I find that confusing. What has Jinhao got to do with any of these?

I endeavour to be frank and truthful in what I write, show or otherwise present, when I relate my first-hand experiences that are not independently verifiable; and link to third-party content where I can, when I make a claim or refute a statement of fact in a thread. If there is something you can verify for yourself, I entreat you to do so, and judge for yourself what is right, correct, and valid. I may be wrong, and my position or say-so is no more authoritative and carries no more weight than anyone else's here.

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1 hour ago, mixink said:

P136 requires a special wrench for removing the nib unit and the piston mechanism

I used small padded pliers to loosen the nib unit so I could unscrew it. Suitably sized dowel to knock the feed and nib out of the collar. Pulling the piston was a matter of continuing to unscrew the knob, then withdrawing the screw. Fine tipped bent hemostat to unscrew the threaded coupler at the back of the barrel. I did have to fiddle a bit to get the piston positioned correctly so the cap screwed all the way back onto the barrel. 

 

It was a learning experience but didn't require any special tools. Likely I could have used the padded pliers in lieu of the hemostat. 

 

 

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6 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

has Jinhao got to do with any of these?

Probably @mixink picked it up from my original post. I'm good at injecting erroneous information, as has been observed previously. 

 

See, did it again by referring to the wrong person 🫤

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1 hour ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

I find that confusing. What has Jinhao got to do with any of these?

Sorry, my confusion—Majohn is what I meant!

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39 minutes ago, SLinkster said:

Probably @mixink picked it up from my original post. I'm good at injecting erroneous information, as has been observed previously. 

My goof, I was typing faster than I was thinking. 

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My method of increasing flow is to first put thumbnails under the wings of the nib and gently pull apart. It doesn’t feel like anything is happening because you’re only widening the slit very slightly. I also will run a shim through the slit. 

 

I have had to remove the nib only a couple of times ever to increase flow.

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