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Aerometric. Tha cap says Made in England, the body says Parker "51" X/F and nothing more.
Any idea when it was made? 

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Seeking a Parker Duofold Centennial cap top medallion/cover/decal.
My Mosaic Black Centennial MK2 lost it (used to have silver color decal).

Preferably MK2. MK3 or MK1 is also OK as long as it fits.  
Preferably EU.

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Without any markings on the barrel or nib my estimation would be mid 1960s.

 

I anticipate that you already know that the pen is very desirable for those collectors who are looking for a 51 in perfect and untouched original condition.

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6 hours ago, Beechwood said:

Without any markings on the barrel or nib my estimation would be mid 1950s.

 

I anticipate that you already know that the pen is very desirable for those collectors who are looking for a 51 in perfect and untouched original condition.

 

 

Thank you. 

Well, it has got no box and for some reason the barrel has got some tiny microscratches, despite the pen is unused, but I have not been planning to sell it anyway.

Seeking a Parker Duofold Centennial cap top medallion/cover/decal.
My Mosaic Black Centennial MK2 lost it (used to have silver color decal).

Preferably MK2. MK3 or MK1 is also OK as long as it fits.  
Preferably EU.

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6 hours ago, joss said:

A look at the Parker 51 timeline might help you to find out when the pen was made: https://parker51.com/index.php/education/51-chronology/

Have you unscrewed the barrel?

 

Thank you. 

Yes, sure. The unscrewing did not help much apart from what has been guessed above (50s).

Seeking a Parker Duofold Centennial cap top medallion/cover/decal.
My Mosaic Black Centennial MK2 lost it (used to have silver color decal).

Preferably MK2. MK3 or MK1 is also OK as long as it fits.  
Preferably EU.

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1 hour ago, mitto said:

Nice pen in pristine condition. Enjoy your pen. 

 Thank you. A nice find indeed.

Seeking a Parker Duofold Centennial cap top medallion/cover/decal.
My Mosaic Black Centennial MK2 lost it (used to have silver color decal).

Preferably MK2. MK3 or MK1 is also OK as long as it fits.  
Preferably EU.

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1 hour ago, Armo said:

The cap suggests mid '60's. Are you going to ink and use it or is it one for the draw?

Thank you. Currently I am probably leaving it as is and shall see later :)

Seeking a Parker Duofold Centennial cap top medallion/cover/decal.
My Mosaic Black Centennial MK2 lost it (used to have silver color decal).

Preferably MK2. MK3 or MK1 is also OK as long as it fits.  
Preferably EU.

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On 12/4/2023 at 3:30 PM, aurore said:

Aerometric. Tha cap says Made in England, the body says Parker "51" X/F and nothing more.
Any idea when it was made? 

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Hello aurore, Nice English 51. Several features can give a fairly close date. Aerometrics in this body style were made in England from 1950-69. There were 3 aero filler units, the last one without the black plastic end dates from 1965. Also, the cap can help date this pen. The halo appeared on the cap in 1958.  As others have said, enjoy your pen. It's a beauty. Thanks for sharing it with us. 

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50 minutes ago, Barry Gabay said:

Hello aurore, Nice English 51. Several features can give a fairly close date. Aerometrics in this body style were made in England from 1950-69. There were 3 aero filler units, the last one without the black plastic end dates from 1965. Also, the cap can help date this pen. The halo appeared on the cap in 1958.  As others have said, enjoy your pen. It's a beauty. Thanks for sharing it with us. 

 

 

I am not on the best screen to see a halo or not on the cap, is there such a mark?

 

This continues the old discussion of use or preserve. If you already have a 51 that is well used and appreciated do you put that to one side and use a new and unused 60+ year old 51, especially one with chalk marks?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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23 hours ago, aurore said:

 

Thank you. 

Yes, sure. The unscrewing did not help much apart from what has been guessed above (50s).

 

That depends. The style of the filler and the imprint might be an additional aid to dating the pen.

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49 minutes ago, joss said:

 

What feature of the cap suggests mid-1960s?

The line or band around the bottom of the cap is no longer present which I think was mid 60's. Of course with so many factories and variations nothing with Parkers is ever cut and dried.

I've been trying to figure out what is happening at the bottom of the cap. Does it have 51 impressed on the side? ...and another edit - is the jewel black or is that just the lighting?

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