Diamine Ruby Blue

[dftr]

Working my may through the inkvent bit by bit, and this is the first sheening ink I've come across that I really like.  I've avoided it in the past b/c I hear people talk about smudges days after and long dry times but I am not finding this in my Nanami Papers (Tomoe River) journal.  The ink has been easy to clean out of my pen (more flushes than Waterman Mysterious Blue but a few less than MB Permanent Blue) and no staining!  I have seen Cult Pens may have inkvent 50ml inks late April?  I haven't seen anything local in the U.S. and I'm skeptical w/ all the supply chain issues that ink will be produced on schedule.

 

What other inks would you suggest that have a similar level of sheen and be relatively well behaved.

Out of curiosity, on 5 point scale, is Rube Blues average (3) or considered a high/monster sheener?  

(I suppose Garland was also a sheening ink that I liked but it also had a lot of glitter...)  

 

[mallymal1]

Sounds good. Any chance of a picture, or two?

[dftr]

4 hours ago, mallymal1 said:

Sounds good. Any chance of a picture, or two?

well, it's a little tricky to catch the sheen and keep color and letters focussed, but I added to the orignal post.

My wife/daughter who are not in the pen hobby can easily see it too.

I find it's present but not too distracting when reading over notes.

 

On copy paper, the ink is just dark blue w/out sheen but doesn't seem to feather or expand.

But unless I feel I need waterproof ink at work, it's fine.  

[mallymal1]

That's great. Thank you. 👍 

[amberleadavis]

I like the pictures. Thank you.

[GNL]

Organics Studio Nitrogen is the sheeniest ink I’ve ever used.  It’s so sheeny, after you write with it and it looks blue, if you wait for it to dry and look at it from the right angle, it’s so sheeny red that you can’t read it.  Too much for me.

 

I liked Colorverse NASA Blue better - a very saturated deep blue with some red sheen, but not too much.  This is available only from Dromgoole’s in Houston, tho.

[dftr]

17 hours ago, mallymal1 said:

That's great. Thank you. 👍 

Thanks you and Amber are too kind   I admire the ink review threads where people display these inks so well!  Some are better than the actual product website.  

7 hours ago, GNL said:

Organics Studio Nitrogen is the sheeniest ink I’ve ever used.  It’s so sheeny, after you write with it and it looks blue, if you wait for it to dry and look at it from the right angle, it’s so sheeny red that you can’t read it.  Too much for me.

 

I liked Colorverse NASA Blue better - a very saturated deep blue with some red sheen, but not too much.  This is available only from Dromgoole’s in Houston, tho.

 

I am a little wary of this OS Nitrogen; I know Goulet pens said it was among their top selling inks.  I don't think it's bad for pens or anything, but I didn't want to smear anything closing my journal or looking/touching a page days later.  I'm also fine w/ my ink not sheening on our copy paper at work b/c it's a decent blue. People have told me Iroshizuku and Takesumi have sheen and I've seen some great reviews where they demonstrate it, but this Ruby Blues ink is the first where I saw it myself w/out having to do anything special.  

 

Thanks for the Colorverse suggestion?  Is it also well behaved (non-smearing after it dries and easy to clean out?)  I think this is a review?

 

have you tried Ruby Blues?  Can you compare them?

 

Thanks again.

 

[amberleadavis]

13 hours ago, dftr said:

Thanks you and Amber are too kind   I admire the ink review threads where people display these inks so well!  Some are better than the actual product website.  

 

I am a little wary of this OS Nitrogen; I know Goulet pens said it was among their top selling inks.  I don't think it's bad for pens or anything, but I didn't want to smear anything closing my journal or looking/touching a page days later.  I'm also fine w/ my ink not sheening on our copy paper at work b/c it's a decent blue. People have told me Iroshizuku and Takesumi have sheen and I've seen some great reviews where they demonstrate it, but this Ruby Blues ink is the first where I saw it myself w/out having to do anything special.  

 

Thanks for the Colorverse suggestion?  Is it also well behaved (non-smearing after it dries and easy to clean out?)  I think this is a review?

 

have you tried Ruby Blues?  Can you compare them?

 

Thanks again.

 

 

I have not tried Ruby Blues. We could do a CRV - as in I could ink up with NASA and send you a letter and you could write back with Ruby Blues.

[dftr]

Ah, this is a great idea and I love to use my inks and pens for practical stuff as well...  I use clairefontaine stationary for letters but I'll send it w/ examples on a Tomoe River paper similar to what I use in my journals.  I'll PM you address/specifics.

 

But what does CRV stand for?  

[Runnin_Ute]

The only "normal" inks I have run across that sheen are, get this....

Waterman Serenity Blue and Lamy Turquoise. 

 

It takes a super super wet pen and 52 gsm Tomoe River paper. I have only seen it a couple of times.  Both with my 1944 Parker Vacumatic Emerald Pearl. It has a nib that is physically as wide as the BB on my Pelikan M205 DUO, but is more like a stub or Oblique. In fact the vendor I bought the nib from called it a OM. But it's wider than both Pelikan OB's I have. I have emptied the pen in as little as a single A4 page.

[Ergative]

If you're looking for blue, Noodler's Blue has given me a red sheen, and it has terrific lightfastness. I used it to write a little card to label my buzzer outside my apartment building's front door, covered it with packing tape to protect it from the weather, and it lasted three or four years with regular direct sunlight. Granted, Scottish direct sunlight, so weaker than other places and not as frequent. I think the tape gave way before the ink faded. It's not a monster sheener, but it didn't require any special treatment to get beyond TRP or Rhodia paper.

 

I've heard that Diamine Majestic Blue is sheeny, but never tried it myself. Diamine Bilberry is more blurple, but it has a gorgeous copper sheen, and is also well-behaved and easy to clean (because no water resistance.) Here's a photo of the Bilberry sheen:

 

You might also be interested in this very old thread from 2011. I bring it up because it's from back in the days before manufacturers started deliberating creating sheeny inks, which sometimes generates inks that focused so much on sheen that they fail to be well-behaved in other domains (I'm looking at you, OS Nitrogen!). So what you've got here are sheeny inks from standard line-ups of brands that are old enough not to be those newer hard-to-get boutique manufacturers that only ship from the Philippines or Korea. The pictures are no longer embedded, but if you copy and paste the links you can get them. And, of course, the names of the inks are provided.

 

 

[dftr]

@Ergative That Bilberry sheen looks awesome.  I also like that it is reportedly easy to clean up!  

[amberleadavis]

On 3/17/2022 at 11:35 AM, dftr said:

Ah, this is a great idea and I love to use my inks and pens for practical stuff as well...  I use clairefontaine stationary for letters but I'll send it w/ examples on a Tomoe River paper similar to what I use in my journals.  I'll PM you address/specifics.

 

But what does CRV stand for?  

 

 

Co-Razy-Views

Co-Razy-Views , Group Reviews and Analysis of Inks - Two or More People, One or More Inks.

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/forum/153-co-razy-views/

 

I'm sending you one in Monday's mail.

[amberleadavis]

[dftr]

Awesome. Looking forward to seeing the real page. Ill send my reply after 

[dftr]

Working on my part of the CRV, I'll send it out Monday/Tuesday.  

 

I attached a pic; Nasa blue is a very saturated ink  w/ more flow.  I took picture sideways so you can see the difference.  Ruby blues (left of the screen)  has much less sheen

but it stands out more...  NASA blue nearly glows red (very hard to capture).  I will be curious to hear your feedback on the inks Amber when you get the real page.  

 

[amberleadavis]

I am excited!

[dragondazd]

I don't go out of my way buying sheen but the sheening inks I have used recently are sailors Yama dori, yomogi, kikyou, and colorverse sm1, all red.  i was also comparing sailor akebi, kuzu, and grenade, all gold but harder to coax out, just along the edges. None of them smeared for me. 

 

Of these, I like yama dori and grenade the best. I haven't had particular difficulty with them.

 

[A Smug Dill]

On 3/14/2022 at 3:15 PM, dftr said:

I have seen Cult Pens may have inkvent 50ml inks late April?

 

50ml bottles of Diamine Inkvent Blue Edition inks (i.e. from the 2019 advent calendar product) have been available for retail since 2020. As for 50ml bottles of Inkvent Red Edition inks, according to Cult Pens, are:

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• Coming soon
• Expected early April 2022; pre-order now!
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• Expected dispatch date for this item is early April but may be subject to change.

 

On 3/14/2022 at 3:15 PM, dftr said:

What other inks would you suggest that have a similar level of sheen and be relatively well behaved.

 

Platinum Blue-Black. Sailor Seiboku. Waterman Serenity Blue. All of them manage to exhibit sheen, even when written with an EF nib, on Rhodia 80g/m² paper; and all are well-behaved in that they're not apt to smudge after drying initially, and not likely to produce feathering (certainly no more than is average for various inks on a given type of paper).

 

On 3/28/2022 at 1:17 PM, dragondazd said:

Of these, I like yama dori and grenade the best. I haven't had particular difficulty with them.

 

Just don't give them the chance to dry out (almost) completely inside the pen.

 

[A Smug Dill]

On 3/14/2022 at 3:15 PM, dftr said:

I have seen Cult Pens may have inkvent 50ml inks late April?

 

Cult Pens just advised that the 50ml bottles of Inkvent Red Edition ink are in stock, and it'll be shipping orders from tomorrow (1st April).