Platinum pen in solid platinum - really?

[mke]

It is mentioned that this be a pen in solid platinum.

Is that true? I didn't find anything on the web. A single-piece LE? Not true?

 

[A Smug Dill]

I don't know about the pen model you showed in the image, but the more expensive and ‘exclusive’ variant of the Platinum #3776 Century ‘The Prime‘ 100th anniversary limited edition pen did have a solid platinum body (barrel, cap, and crown).

[Chi]

I found this in FPoJ, page 311. From the look, it has the same clip design and end cap trim. Sections and Nibs look similar too.

Description mentioned " Luxury models with platinum cap and barrel were also available."

[mke]

Thank you very much.

This is certainly the luxury model mentioned.

 

It is a pity that Japanese companies do not want/understand the power of an online museum.

[awa54]

Platinum is a fabulous metal for some things, but an entire pen barrel doesn't strike me as one of them... The weight would be impressive (read: way too heavy!) and any attempt to thin it down to reduce the weight and/or cost would run the risk of making it too thin to resist dents from normal use.

 

The all Pt models are certainly fascinating and valuable collectibles though!

[mke]

21 hours ago, awa54 said:

The weight would be impressive

Don't get it wrong. Platinum is just a little "heavier" than gold.

 

Additionally, if you make a pen from resin and add a thin tube of metal over it than you can name it solid gold or solid platinum or Sterling silver - see the Montblanc Solitaires. Look at their weight, it is just something in the 40 grams.

 

The Platinum 100th anniversary Platinum pen is only 62g. They didn't use a lot of platinum, IMO.

My Waldmann 100th anniversary pen weighs 82g and has 66g silver in it - now, this is solid. 

http://mkepens.blogspot.com/2018/02/waldmann-100th-anniversary-pen-limited.html

http://mkepens.blogspot.com/2018/10/welcome-home.html

[awa54]

17 hours ago, mke said:

Don't get it wrong. Platinum is just a little "heavier" than gold.

 

Additionally, if you make a pen from resin and add a thin tube of metal over it than you can name it solid gold or solid platinum or Sterling silver - see the Montblanc Solitaires. Look at their weight, it is just something in the 40 grams.

 

The Platinum 100th anniversary Platinum pen is only 62g. They didn't use a lot of platinum, IMO.

My Waldmann 100th anniversary pen weighs 82g and has 66g silver in it - now, this is solid. 

http://mkepens.blogspot.com/2018/02/waldmann-100th-anniversary-pen-limited.html

http://mkepens.blogspot.com/2018/10/welcome-home.html

 

 

Platinum may only have a slightly higher density in its elemental form, but in practice it's much heavier, since most platinum used in jewelry (and pens) is 900 or 950 purity (with the additional 5-10% being iridium[22] or ruthenium[12], which are denser than copper and silver, the common alloying metals used in yellow gold), while it's very uncommon to see gold used above 750 purity in an item that needs any mechanical strength (and most "solid" gold pen barrels are 585).

 

And yes, I'm aware that in some parts of the world 22k and even 24k gold are used in jewelry, but those items can be bent out of shape with one's bare fingers, unless the item is exceptionally thick... pen barrels in 999 purity gold would likely last less than a day of careful use before they had serious dents.

 

For reference, "only" 62g is the weight of a 3" bladed back-lock pocket knife... a steel tool used for much more strenuous tasks than a pen (physically at least). I prefer my pens in the sub 20g range, with "heavy" ones around 30g being tolerable if the overall design is good enough to justify putting up with the extra weight.

 

 

 

 

...pretty sure, I didn't "get it wrong" lol.

[mke]

3 hours ago, awa54 said:

pretty sure, I didn't "get it wrong" lol.

Be it as you said.

[awa54]

Honestly, as @mke pointed out, an overlay of platinum or high purity gold on a base metal, ebonite or plastic barrel/cap would be the only sensible way to employ those metals in a daily use pen ...but then, any pen made with them would be a luxury item and when have luxury items followed the dictates of practicality? 😉

[gerigo]

The solid silver version is a regular production pen. I have never seen this solid platinum version. It must run in the 10s of thousands.

[awa54]

The Anniversary edition had a list price over $10k

[a student]

Seems the Nibsmith website is displaying a version, weighs in at 1.4 lbs, that is over half a kilo if I have read it right! Would need a bit of muscle to use.

https://nibsmith.com/product/platinum-100th-anniversary-the-prime-fountain-pen-solid-platinum-limited-edition/

[A Smug Dill]

14 minutes ago, a student said:

weighs in at 1.4 lbs, that is over half a kilo if I have read it right! Would need a bit of muscle to use.

 

I think you're reading it wrong. Platinum Pen has already stated what the weight of the pen is:

 

On 2/1/2022 at 11:17 PM, A Smug Dill said:

… the Platinum #3776 Century ‘The Prime‘ 100th anniversary limited edition pen…

 

…

 

13 minutes ago, a student said:

https://nibsmith.com/product/platinum-100th-anniversary-the-prime-fountain-pen-solid-platinum-limited-edition/

 

Nibsmith.com also puts the weight of the Platinum #3776 Century Bourgogne fountain pen (with rhodium trim) at 1.4lbs.

 

[awa54]

37 minutes ago, a student said:

Seems the Nibsmith website is displaying a version, weighs in at 1.4 lbs, that is over half a kilo if I have read it right! Would need a bit of muscle to use.

https://nibsmith.com/product/platinum-100th-anniversary-the-prime-fountain-pen-solid-platinum-limited-edition/

 

I certainly hope that's shipping weight!

[a student]

39 minutes ago, A Smug Dill said:

I think you're reading it wrong. Platinum Pen has already stated what the weight of the pen is:

 

Correct. I had another look at the website. The weight capped is shown as 62g

13 minutes ago, awa54 said:

I certainly hope that's shipping weight!

It would seem so. My reading was mistaken

[mke]

7 hours ago, awa54 said:

shipping weight

There are usually boxes with a pen.