Where Is The Pelikan M205 Made?

[TSherbs]

 

I have a better one.

 

Cross

 

here's one number: 1,386,000,000

[jaytaylor]

I have one word to say about Chinese manufacturing:

 

 

Apple

 

 

Except it isn't Chinese manufacturing, its western manufacturing at a plant in China.

[essayfaire]

 

 

Except it isn't Chinese manufacturing, its western manufacturing at a plant in China.

 

 

 

 

Except it isn't Chinese manufacturing, its western manufacturing at a plant in China.

So if a Germany company produced pens at a factory in Chernobyl, would you be comfortable that the pen wouldn't be radioactive since the plant's owners were back in Bonn? Geography can matter independently from the cultural regime to which it may be linked.

 

Seriously, there are some wonderful things made in China - in the music world there are cheap Chinese string instruments (that are often referred to by terms such as "VSO"s for violin-shaped objects) but also some wonderful high-quality instruments that are expensive but cost considerably less than comparable European instruments in terms of both craftsmanship and wood-quality.

[TSherbs]

Appelboom just released a video tour of the Pelikan plant making nibs and barrels in Germany. Is every single part made there? I doubt it. I can't imagine that they would try. Where their sources are doesn't matter much; its their QC that matters upon shipment receipt and assembly, etc.

[mana]

Appelboom just released a video tour of the Pelikan plant making nibs and barrels in Germany. Is every single part made there? I doubt it. I can't imagine that they would try. Where their sources are doesn't matter much; its their QC that matters upon shipment receipt and assembly, etc.

Most but not all, for example as mentioned in the video, the celluloid for the binde comes from Italy.

[AMlines]

I heard back from the seller and they are offering to send in a replacement nib, which is nice of them. However, they said that they dry test nibs before sending them out, so I am now wondering if the scratchy noise I hear is normal? The pen (F nib) is writing okay, but less comfortable/smooth to write than the Plaisir F I have.

Not sure if I should just return the pen and look to another brand, or take a chance with another nib.

[Lentar]

...Or just hunt for the occasional $60 replacement 14k nib for a vintage 400.

[Lentar]

From eBay or some other source?

[almoore]

I bought an M205 demonstrator and it is probably the most disappointing pen I've bought; the quality of the materials including the nib are very low grade and not what I expected from Pelikan.

It's an expensive pen for what it is but mine is very easily outclassed by the Wing Sung 698 which has a better nib and is produced from much better acrylic.

I appreciate I probably just got unlucky with mine but it's very disappointing when a high quality brand is outgunned by a $12 pen.

Al

[DonLeone]

China has been improving it's pens. Some could say drastically. I don't have any, but Duke is one of their....best.....on the Whole as good or better than old Venus pens. which were a step under the cheaper Wearever pens.

Once Wearever made more pens than anyone....may have made as all the rest combined. They had good second tier pens... h some pre and just after the War ones....but are more well known for the thrid tier ones they made. They would make 4th tier pens for anybody and did.

 

First, Chinese pens have their own market to satisfy............and from my reading, the cheap Chines pens work...buy 5 keep 3 or 2.....for 1/3 to 1/2 the price of the cheapest Japanese pen. & Free Mailing!!!!!

I don't know....cheap ball point pen price??....in one can keep it for years, and not have to buy your yellow BIC stick (if still made) when it runs out ink.

 

 

Whoops...wife bought me a fancy Hero pen at a flea market, In a 'felt' lined cardboard box is a flip top wood and chrome box, with said fancy pen....it's not that it's fully metal that keeps me ever inking it, it is a nails nail....like a Pelikan D nib...

Should ink it, for all I know it could be 'butter smooh'.

A right fancy pen....in a fancy desk display box.

 

Within 2 weeks, I'll have about 30 Chinese pens, made in China, by Chinese brands, sold by Chinese people. I already have about 22 Chinese pens. 2 weeks ago, I had zero. So I'm still testing them, figuring them out, etc.

 

Besides one pen having the piston badly assembled (easy to fix) and one pen having the wrong nib... (they sent me not 1 but 2 replacement nibs free of charge) and 3 pens being the wrong size (which is partly my fault but also the seller's fault for being too vague in their descriptions), so far 50% of them work and the other 50% haven't been tested yet. So It's a 100% win ratio so far. Some of these pens are € 0.80. Less than a euro for the entire pen.

 

Some of the 3-5 euro pens are on par with >100 euro steel Waterman pens.

 

The TWSBI clones are pretty bad clones, having casting marks, no facets, basic bodies, etc. But for like 3 euros each, who cares? I'll still get more TWSBIs in the future. These do NOT replace the pens they're a clone of. But for harsher inks, shimmering inks, use as a beater pen, use as a pen to give to little kids or hamfisted individuals? These are great for that.

 

So I agree, these Chinese pens, especially for the price, are pretty darn good.

[A Smug Dill]

TWSBI pens are also Chinese pens in every way, no?