Magna Carta - Not Your Typical Indian Pen

[tryphon]

I just received the MC Durham pen. Great, heavy pen. State of the art PVD finish and a smooth Bock nib. One has my name on it: it is my new carry pen!

 

http://s26.postimg.org/bnw6fmw2h/Durham11.jpg

[subbucal]

What do you mean by typical Indian pen...how many you have and used...show us a picture..

[tryphon]

I have several ebonite pens from India, including some nice GAMA pens. I have a pen collection that I started in 1968 which numbers about 3,000 pens. I am also an importer and distributor of pens. I used to be the North American distributor for Platinum of Japan. I am the official and exclusive distributor of Aurora pens in Canada and the US distributor for Signum, Urso Luxury, Columbus, Filcao and Magna Carta. I am having a new line of ebonite pens made using Indian components coupled with high quality Italian parts. Send me a PM if you need more info on my pen interests. I don't have pictures of all the pens I own and the INdian pens I have (other than the Magna Carta pens) are not all that unique. I am attaching a picture of some of my vintage Parker Duofolds.

 

http://s26.postimg.org/5mo1lph7d/Team_1_A.jpg

 

 

 

http://s26.postimg.org/5kelvq5sp/Durham12.jpg

By "non typical" Indian pen I meant that these pens are of much higher quality than all of the Indian pens I have handled. The metal finish is PVD, as advanced as the finish found on the best European pens. The nibs are genuine Bock nibs, not generic IPG or Taiwanese nibs. The overall quality of the pen, the presentation in a luxurious wooden box, the three year warranty these pens carry and many other factors make these pens stand apart from any of the other Indian pens I have seen. These compare favorably with the very best on the market, regardless of Country of origin.

Edited July 8, 2015 by tryphon

[mehandiratta]

I have several ebonite pens from India. I have a collection that I started in 1968 which numbers about 3,000 pens. I am also an importer and distributor of pens. I used to be the Noth American distributor for Platinum of Japan. I am the official and exclusive distributor of Aurora pens in Canada and the US distributor for Signum, Urso Luxury, Columbus, Filcao and Magna Carta. I am having a new line of ebonite pens made using Indian components coupled with high quality Italian parts. Send me a PM if you need more info on my pen interests. I don't have pictures of all the pens I own and the INdian pens I have (other than the Magna Carta pens) are not all that unique. I am attaching a picture of some of my vintage Parker Duofolds.

 

http://s26.postimg.org/5mo1lph7d/Team_1_A.jpg

 

 

 

http://s26.postimg.org/5kelvq5sp/Durham12.jpg

By "non typical" Indian pen I meant that these pens are of much higher quality than all of the Indian pens I have handled. The metal finish is PVD, as advanced as the finish found on the best European pens. The nibs are genuine Bock nibs, not generic IPG or Taiwanese nibs. The overall quality of the pen, the presentation in a luxurious wooden box, the three year warranty these pens carry and many other factors make these pens stand apart from any of the other Indian pens I have seen. These compare favorably with the very best on the market, regardless of Country of origin.

 

 

So you are a businessman .... promoting your business... Like it....

 

What is your target market.....??

 

I agree there is nothing Indian in Magna Carta except that it is Made in India...

 

Also you are using a wrong term like "typical indian pens" .. please don't generalise....

 

its not just ebonite....

 

there are lot of pen manufacturers who manufacture from acrylic, inhouse polycast resin....

you might be in business for long... but markets keep evolving...

like Magna Carta is born..... many other pen manufacturers have surfaced and evolved.... experimentation is being done with materials...

FOSFOR for example makes pen out of sandalwood... at very competitive prices...

Then there is Gama and ASA who make not just ebonite pens... rather they make lot of acrylic pens with different mechanisms...

 

and many more... lot of brands outsource their production to India also...

 

So there nothing typical....

 

Magna Carta is a premium brand which i will love to own....and get hold off.... yes this one model you have shown is a stunner...

Kindly share more models of Magna Carta here....

[subbucal]

@tryphon...I agree with Vaibhav...please do not generalise..

 

I have understood you know nothing about Indian pens and their qualities...

 

Also, this pen from Magna Carts is stunning looking and attractive, the Bock nib in my view is a good add on..its made in India...

 

But please...:-))

[tryphon]

 

 

I agree there is nothing Indian in Magna Carta except that it is Made in India...

 

If it is made in India (and it is), it's an Indian pen

 

 

Also you are using a wrong term like "typical indian pens" .. please don't generalise....

 

This statement confirms my title for this post: this is NOT your typical Indian pen.

 

 

there are lot of pen manufacturers who manufacture from acrylic, inhouse polycast resin....

you might be in business for long... but markets keep evolving...

like Magna Carta is born..... many other pen manufacturers have surfaced and evolved.... experimentation is being done with materials...

FOSFOR for example makes pen out of sandalwood... at very competitive prices...

Then there is Gama and ASA who make not just ebonite pens... rather they make lot of acrylic pens with different mechanisms...

 

and many more... lot of brands outsource their production to India also...

 

I am well aware of that. As I wrote, I am having some pen components made in India for my own Bramd of pens (H&S). Other components for these same pens I source in Italy and Germany. It is a global economy and manufacturing is done across Countries in today's world.

 

So there nothing typical....

 

Magna Carta is a premium brand which i will love to own....and get hold off.... yes this one model you have shown is a stunner...

Kindly share more models of Magna Carta here....

 

Thank you! I will.

[tryphon]

@tryphon...I agree with Vaibhav...please do not generalise..

 

I have understood you know nothing about Indian pens and their qualities...

 

Thanks for giving me your opinion...

Also, this pen from Magna Carts is stunning looking and attractive, the Bock nib in my view is a good add on..its made in India...

 

You seem to be shooting from the hip without any knowledge of what we are doing. We buy these nibs from Peter Bock in Germany. I am WELL AWARE of the nibs produced in India: some are good, some are not. Years ago I sold a line of inexpensive Italian pens (CGB) and we used INdian nibs that were very good writers. Those were inexpensive pens, these are not. You seem to ignore that a member of Magna Carta is the official importer into India of German nibs. Before you spread lies about our product, you should check your information. Please retract your statement to avoid the consequences of your slanderous comment.

 

But please...:-))

[subbucal]

 

@tryphon...I agree with Vaibhav...please do not generalise..

 

I have understood you know nothing about Indian pens and their qualities...

 

Thanks for giving me your opinion...

Also, this pen from Magna Carts is stunning looking and attractive, the Bock nib in my view is a good add on..its made in India...

 

You seem to be shooting from the hip without any knowledge of what we are doing. We buy these nibs from Peter Bock in Germany. I am WELL AWARE of the nibs produced in India: some are good, some are not. Years ago I sold a line of inexpensive Italian pens (CGB) and we used INdian nibs that were very good writers. Those were inexpensive pens, these are not. You seem to ignore that a member of Magna Carta is the official importer into India of German nibs. Before you spread lies about our product, you should check your information. Please retract your statement to avoid the consequences of your slanderous comment.

 

But please...:-))

There is no lie in my statement. I know Bock nibs are made in Germany and Magna Carta is official importer of these. I know that this pen is using Bock nib and in my little experience its good add on. What is the lie in this statement??

 

I know where I shoot from and stop threatening, I may have to report this thread to moderators.

[tryphon]

Subbucal, I am referring to this sentence from your previous post:

 

"the Bock nib in my view is a good add on..its made in India"

 

This statement is untrue.

Edited July 8, 2015 by tryphon

[RMN]

Now, folks, let's continue talking about the pen in subject and stop bickering. The pen is interesting and I would hate to have to lock this topic.

 

Tryphon thinks this pen looks different from the pens from India we usually see, and Vaibhav agreed with him.

That statement is not derogatory in intent but an observation.

 

 

D.ick

Moderator

[rishminder]

one thing i can see here is that you do not have had much exposure to Indian fountain pens and hence you have generalized all indian pens as not being good.

 

I could understand that have you not been promoting Magna Carta at the expense of other Indian pens, but having limited exposure to Indian pens and then using that to formulate an opinion and then using that to push a product you sell is not good.

 

Please try Indian pens from the likes of Ranga, ASA, Fosfor, Guider, Wality, Airmail and then formulate an opinion.

 

I hope you understand and would stand corrected

[rishminder]

Now, folks, let's continue talking about the pen in subject and stop bickering. The pen is interesting and I would hate to have to lock this topic.

 

Tryphon thinks this pen looks different from the pens from India we usually see, and Vaibhav agreed with him.

That statement is not derogatory in intent but an observation.

 

 

D.ick

Moderator

thanks RMN

I would disagree with the observation as i don't feel the member had made enough effort to state what his observation is based on. To me it seems the observation was based on the fact of forwarding ones business interests.

 

and yes magna carta pens are different from typical Indian pens as Indian pens are value for money and magna carta is targeting more at the higher end of the pen spectrum, but then again its not good to generalize

[TheGreatRoe]

If I may poke my head in for a moment...

 

In the US, "Not your typical __________" is a common colloquialism (or saying) meaning that something is good or high quality. In the last week I've heard this saying used for a movie, a restaurant, and a pair of shoes. It's often--but not exclusively--used by advertising in reviews of products or movies. The OP wasn't denigrating other pens, just using a common expression that when you dissect it, doesn't literally mean what the expression says.

[tryphon]

Thanks dc: you are absolutely correct: what I meant is that these Indian pens are different from your more commonplace Indian pens. I never said the typical Indian pens are not good: I own several and they are very good value for money. I also meant that the Magna Carta pens aim at luxury to a level that is uncommon in Indian pens.

As for not knowing about the pens of India: the poster has no idea of the level of involvement I have with Indian pen makers past and present.

Thanks you also RMN for your timely and appropriate comments.

Edited July 8, 2015 by tryphon

[subbucal]

@Tryphon,

 

If you meant that this pen is different and not intended to disregard other Indian pens, by stating its not typical...then its fine...probably I misunderstood..

 

Again, I meant MC is made in India. The nib used is German made, I am well aware of this...

 

Let's not discuss this anymore...we would like to see more MC pen pictures and review...we are all waiting for MC launch equally...

 

Hope this clarifies

[tryphon]

@Tryphon,

 

If you meant that this pen is different and not intended to disregard other Indian pens, by stating its not typical...then its fine...probably I misunderstood..

 

Again, I meant MC is made in India. The nib used is German made, I am well aware of this...

 

Let's not discuss this anymore...we would like to see more MC pen pictures and review...we are all waiting for MC launch equally...

 

Hope this clarifies

Thank you, subbucal.

I appreciate your post, but your previous post implies that the nib is made in India.

I still think you should correct that statement.

I do appreciate your positive attitude and I hope we can continue to appreciate Indian pens together in the future!

No hard feelings.

Giovanni

 

Another picture, then: the Magna Carta Cambridge in the unique finish that I call "Tron":

 

http://s26.postimg.org/5k5u02vh5/Cambridge_new_2.jpg

Edited July 8, 2015 by tryphon

[hari317]

Hi Giovanni, do you have some closeup pics of the nib offerings on MC? Are there any precious metal models like Sterling silver etc?

[tryphon]

Hari,

the production pens are different from the early prototypes. We switched to #6 Bock nibs for all models. At this time, we are only offering steel nibs, but we are looking at adding 14K Gold nibs very soon.

This is the Cambridge, showing the gold plated Bock nib:

 

http://s26.postimg.org/4jiykce6x/Cambridge_5a_C.jpg

[hari317]

what is the typical weight of a Cambridge? also, are the pens already in the market or yet to be released?

[Keyless Works]

Wow that Durham looks nice. Is there pricing for these pens yet?