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Recommendations For Orange/burnt Orange Inks On The Dry Side?


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I recently purchased a Faber-Castell Loom in Metalic Orange with a broad nib. I like the pen. I like the way it looks and and I like the way it feels in the hand; substantive (it's made of metal) but comfortable and well balanced. The nib is very smooth and it makes for pleasant writing, unless smooth nibs are not your preference.

 

Here is a photo of the nib (from Cultpens.com ):

 

http://d15bv9e9f3al6i.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/cp/450x450_fitPad/FC24884-ZZZ~Faber-Castell-Loom-Fountain-Pen-Orange_P1.jpg

 

The nib is very smooth but.....it is also apparently a very wet nib. The first ink I put in it was Diamine Atlantic Blue. Really wet, thick lines, some bleed through and feathering on cheaper papers such as composition book paper and copy paper. No bleed through seen, but too wide on decent Rhodia paper as well. I normally like broader nibs, so either my tastes are changing or the flow from this nib is more than excellent.

 

Before deciding to be disappointed in the pen, :P , I figured I should try some drier inks in it to see if I could tame the flow. I tried Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue, the driest ink I have, and it was much better, but maybe a bit too dry and the color doesn't appeal to me.

 

I am going to continue to search for a blue ink that works in the pen, as well as checking out Faber-Castell's Hazelnut Brown ink (have some cartridges of that) but I have wanted to find an orange ink that I like for some time and having purchased my first orange pen - more of a dark orange/coppery orange than the photo shows, at least on this monitor - it seems this is a good time to look into my orange ink options.

 

I don't want eye searing orange, more of a burnt sienna/terracotta sort of color?? I like the way Diamine Terracotta looks but I think it might be too wet of an ink. A broad nib lends itself to excellent shading, too, so that would be a plus. I have also read reviews of orange inks such as Noodler's Apache Sunset and Diamine Ancient Copper. They look very nice and get good reviews, but, too wet? Ancient Copper too prone to developing nib crud?

 

Please let me know what your recommendations are for a relatively well-behaved darkish orange ink that is on the dry side. This is a C/C filler - easy to clean thoroughly - so any brand is fair game, as long as it is not known to disintegrate pens.

 

Holly

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I have heard that Pelikan inks are dry in general, and there *is* an orange in the Pelikan Edelstein line, so maybe that one. I have a broad-nibbed Faber-Castell Basic, and also found it to be super smooth but also wet. Still like it, though! :)

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I was originally planning to get the Basic, but somehow the orange Loom called to me more. What ink do you use in your Basic or is it's broad nib not too wet for you? I thought both pens had the same nibs, but I could be quite wrong about that.

 

Do you mean Edelstein Mandarin? Here is a photo showing a swab (from the Anderson Pens blog):http://blog.andersonpens.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/edelsteinmandarin_swab.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

I'll look into it - sort of hoping I won't like it because of the cost but I have Topaz and have no complaints about it, so I am probably doomed! Thank you for the suggestion.

 

Holly

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I haven't actually tried a second ink in the Basic yet, but Noodler's Midnight Blue didn't flow very well with a TWSBI Classic, so I am going to try pairing it with the Basic next to see how that goes. I think they have the same nibs, too. I keep looking at the Loom and will probably end up buying a medium-nibbed one one of these days.

 

One ink I was planning to try in the Basic actually *is* Topaz, 'cos I figured the wet flow combined with Tomoe River paper would be a sheen bonanza. :)

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I haven't actually tried a second ink in the Basic yet, but Noodler's Midnight Blue didn't flow very well with a TWSBI Classic, so I am going to try pairing it with the Basic next to see how that goes. I think they have the same nibs, too. I keep looking at the Loom and will probably end up buying a medium-nibbed one one of these days.

 

One ink I was planning to try in the Basic actually *is* Topaz, 'cos I figured the wet flow combined with Tomoe River paper would be a sheen bonanza. :)

The Topaz and Basic does sound like a nice combination! I may try Topaz as one of my blue ink choices in the Loom, though I only have a sample of Tomoe River paper.

 

Private Reserve Orange Crush is quite dry, and may be just the colour you look for, a dark orange. Also check out Diamine Autumn Oak, a relatively brighter (than OC) orange and even drier.

Besides quite liking the name, the color of Autumn Oak appeals to me; on my short list. The Pelikan Mandarin is a little too light for me, I prefer the darker oranges. Off to read more reviews

 

Holly

 

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Autumn Oak is perfect for a super-wet pen. I have it in a B-nibbed 149 firehose and it behaves much better than most (usually well-behaved) inks in that pen.

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Hi,

 

Kindly consider Pelikan 4001 Brown.

 

My impression is that it is bone dry.

 

I thought the hue was some sort of tandoori-esque Burnt Orange, but depends on Value (light to dark)

 

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN%20Stuff%20-%202011/Ink%20Review%20-%20Pelikan%204001%20Brown/06063933.jpg

 

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My experience with Pelikan Mandarin is that it's a medium dry time, but it feels drier when writing with it. It is however, very bright; retina searing bright. I love orange inks, but this one didn't do it for me; however that is a personal preference. There are many people that really appreciate its brightness.

Herbin's Orange Indien is also a medium dry time, less bright than Mandarin and an ink I quite like. I haven't managed to get an awful lot of shading out of it but it's a nice colour. Might be a little too light for you though.

Noodler's Apache Sunset or Iro's Yu-yake are both very fine inks, but you might consider neither to be a 'true' orange.

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That reminds me that Diamine's standard orange is actually quite good. I forgot about that one.

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In terms of sheer gorgeousness, I would definitely say that Cult Pens Deep Dark Orange is my favorite. But I've only used it in one pen so far so didn't know whether it could be called dry or not. :)

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That Deep Dark Orange looks very nice! But I'm not sure what grainweevil meant by her comment in her review that the ink's flow is "Streamlike~average" Does that mean the flow is like a gushing, never-ending stream, or does it instead mean that it is like water in a stream going merrily and peacefully on its way with a nice average, even flow? Other test results, like the dry times, smear test and lack of bleed through (all with the caveat of results being paper dependent) make it look as if it is a relatively dry ink, so perhaps I am just caught up in my mental images of what that might mean. :blush:

 

The more I see of the Diamine Terracotta, the more I think that would be a lovely ink to have, but, it seems to be unavailable here at the USA vendors I have checked. Has it not yet been distributed here as yet or has our "quota" already sold out? All I am seeing is "Out of Stock." (I can, of course, order a bottle from elsewhere, if I can afford the shipping, etc., but wondered about its availability on this continent. :) )

 

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Looks like a job for Private Reserve Orange Crush. All others in this color range seem to be wetter inks.

 

http://www.gouletpens.com/files/s8588/1/IS-PR06OC.jpg

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That Deep Dark Orange looks very nice! But I'm not sure what grainweevil meant by her comment in her review that the ink's flow is "Streamlike~average" Does that mean the flow is like a gushing, never-ending stream, or does it instead mean that it is like water in a stream going merrily and peacefully on its way with a nice average, even flow? Other test results, like the dry times, smear test and lack of bleed through (all with the caveat of results being paper dependent) make it look as if it is a relatively dry ink, so perhaps I am just caught up in my mental images of what that might mean. :blush:

 

The more I see of the Diamine Terracotta, the more I think that would be a lovely ink to have, but, it seems to be unavailable here at the USA vendors I have checked. Has it not yet been distributed here as yet or has our "quota" already sold out? All I am seeing is "Out of Stock." (I can, of course, order a bottle from elsewhere, if I can afford the shipping, etc., but wondered about its availability on this continent. :) )

 

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Vanness Pens in Arkansas shows TERRACOTTA in stock. I have bought 4 of the anniversary inks from them & just received another order from them yesterday. All were well packed & promptly shipped.

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KWZI IG Mandarin maybe?

 

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af283/Runnin_Ute/GB3%20-%20Iron%20Galls_zpse7yodizs.png

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Brad

"Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind" - Rudyard Kipling
"None of us can have as many virtues as the fountain-pen, or half its cussedness; but we can try." - Mark Twain

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Orange Crush is on my short list, jasonchickerson. Thank you, Barkingpig for the info that Vanness Pens has the Diamine Terracotta in stock; I have heard good things about Vanness Pens and would be happy to purchase from them. The Kwzi Inks look quite interesting, Runnin_Ute, but the inks aren't available here and I think I have missed out on the group buys, unless another one is going to happen this year; I am going to look further into their inks for future reference, though.

 

Holly

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If you will send me your address I will happily mail you 11 international cartridges of Orange Crush. I ordered them when I purchased my Edison Collier Persimmon Swirl pen & dislike the color when it dries & used only the one cartridge. I think the Faber Castell uses regular international cartridges but you could always empty them into a converter if you desire. I will not use them so I'd be happy for you to have them. At least it would "shorten" your list by one!

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