Rhodia International Classification

[dbotts73]

Sorry if this question has been asked before but I have a Rhodia 19 pad and I was wondering what that would fall under as far as classification (A4, A5, etc.)? Thanks for any help!

[migo984]

Sorry if this question has been asked before but I have a Rhodia 19 pad and I was wondering what that would fall under as far as classification (A4, A5, etc.)? Thanks for any help!

Rhodia 19 is A4+ ie 210 X 318mm

 

ISO A4 paper size is 210mm x 297mm

 

Rhodia 19 is slightly larger than A4 so that it becomes standard size when detached from the pad along the perforations.

[Anne-Sophie]

Rhodia 18 notepad is A4/letter size according to the back of the notepad but a sheet of letter paper is slightly wider. Detached from the pad, the page is the same length as letter paper.

 

Rhodia 19 is longer and wider and the detached pages are true A4.

[linuxspice]

[@Anne-Sophie: Rhodia 18 and 19 are actually the same width: both are 210 mm wide, or 8 1/4 inches. The only difference is in the length. ]

 

To my fellow North Americans: When buying European notebooks and notepads, note that their stated dimensions refer to the size of the pages *including* the portion which is lost to any binding (whether wirebound, stapled, glued, or anything else). This is true even for notebooks and notepads with named sizes such as A4 and A5. If your "A4"-sized notebook has detachable pages, the size of the detached pages will almost certainly *not* be the full A4 size: they'll either be narrower (if the notebook is side-bound) or shorter (if the notebook is top-bound).

On the other hand, if a notebook or notepad with detachable pages is sized in such a way that the detached pages *do* conform to a named size, this is generally indicated with a "+" after the size, e.g. "A4+", "A5+", etc.

This is true for Rhodia notepads as well. As migo984 pointed out, the Rhodia 19 size is called "A4+", and is specified as 210 x 318 mm, or 8 1/4 x 12 1/2 inches. However, this includes the 2-cm (3/4-inch) stapled portion at the top, above the page perforations. When detached, the resulting pages will actually be 210 x 297 mm, or about 8 1/4 x 11 3/4 inches, which is the standard A4 size. (Clever, non?)

The Rhodia 18 size is called "A4" and is specified as 210 x 297 mm, or about 8 1/4 x 11 3/4 inches, which is indeed the standard A4 size. But again, bear in mind that this includes the stapled portion at the top above the page perforations. When detached, the resulting pages will actually be (I'm guessing) 210 x 276 mm, or 8 1/4 x 10 7/8 inches, which is the width of international A4 paper and almost the length of US and Canadian "Letter" paper.

This makes Rhodia 18 a more convenient size for North Americans, since the detached pages can easily fit into North American file folders, ring binders, page protectors and the like, many of which would have trouble fitting the taller A4-sized sheets of the Rhodia 19.

I often wish we Americans and Canadians would give up our "not-invented-here" mindset and adopt the ISO paper sizes like the rest of the world. But then again, no one asked me.

Edited October 27, 2014 by linuxspice

[zuerincolour]

Like others have said, no.19 pages are A4 when detached but the pad itself is larger (21.0 x 31.8 cm)

Edited October 27, 2014 by joeccentric