Sheaffer Tip Dip

[pen lady]

Calling all Sheaffer Experts, what do I have please? I bought this little pen today and I'm having trouble identifying it. It's a Canadian made pen, sort of like a Craftsman, but as you can see it has a g/f clip and a gold nib. The nib is marked Sheaffers

Made in Canada

14K-585

33

and you can clearly see the Tip Dip opening on the feed. Pen Hero has just confused me and reliable Richard Binder is no help either!

 

Is this yet another example of the Canadian factory doing it's own thing or has the pen been retro-fitted with a gold nib? I'm guessing it dates from the late 50's-early 60's. Your opinions please.

 

 

[Happy Harry]

A Craftsman. Canadian style !!

[Ernst Bitterman]

Something may have been swapped-- Canadian and Australian Craftsmen of this sort are usually found with plastic caps. Because Sheaffer isn't above doing the unexpected, I won't say definitely that either the cap or the point has been brought in from another pen, but it's likely. Does the body impression have a US or Canadian address?

 

http://dirck.delint.ca/beta/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Sheaffer-0037.jpg

[pen lady]

The barrel imprint reads: W.A. Sheaffer Pen Co.

of Canada Ltd. Goderich Ont.

Made in Canada

 

I don't think the cap is a replacement because it fits smoothly into the little "step" behind the threads. I don't have callipers, but the cap diameter is about 11mm. The mystery deepens, because I've just remembered that I have the identical pen in a set that I bought years ago. I have it identified as a Sovereign but I now know that is way wrong! No white dot for starters and the pattern on the metal cap is different. Thanks for your input, it is much appreciated.

Edited September 15, 2014 by pen lady

[Happy Harry]

The nib is a screw in type so easily changed and the plastic cap as pictured above also fits. Still looks correct to me but my knowledge of Canadian versions is lacking.

[pen lady]

I'm not so sure. The fact that I have another identical Canadian made pen (that I'd forgotten about when I first started this thread) makes me think that this is some kind of Cannuk Craftsman Super-de luxe Special. BTW, I tried unscrewing the nib - nuttin' Honey! But I didn't want to mess with it too much. Good to get your thoughts on this. It's a nice little pen and writes v. well.

[Happy Harry]

I imagine the nib would be rather uncoperative after all those years!! Still there seems little reason other than being inquistive to want to unscrew it anyway !! I think your descripition "Cannuk Craftsman Super-de luxe Special" will now be the definitive name.... regardless of what Ernst thinks

[pen lady]

Thanks HH, and I have two, count 'em TWO of them! (well at least till the Toronto Scriptus Pen Show in Nov. when this one will be for sale)

[pajaro]

I have a green Craftsman with the same metal cap and a steel Tip Dip nib. A Touchdown filler and the nib unscrews. Made in USA. There are gold nibs that can screw into my pen. Holding the nib with the feed in the crease of your finger it sometimes a jerk counterclockwise to unscrew the nib from this or from one of the several cadet pens I have. I also have a couple of Cadets or Craftsmen like this that ae lever fillers, using the same type of removable nib. I swapped out a couple of these nibs for steel S-1 stubs, a super nib with great line variation.

Edited September 17, 2014 by pajaro

[pen lady]

Oh, interesting! Pajaro does yours have a g/f clip too like mine both do? Pen Hero's pics show Crafsmen with steel clips.

[Ernst Bitterman]

I imagine the nib would be rather uncoperative after all those years!! Still there seems little reason other than being inquistive to want to unscrew it anyway !! I think your descripition "Cannuk Craftsman Super-de luxe Special" will now be the definitive name.... regardless of what Ernst thinks

 

Suits me. I may have to apply "Canuck Non-Cartridge Super de Luxe Special" to an anomalous lever filler with the same exterior appearance as the conical-ended second generation cartridge pens... of which I've seen two.

 

I'm still inclined to think cap-swap in the present case, but as my All-Knowing All-Seeing papers hare yet to arrive in the mail, it's mere opinion.

[pen lady]

Two cap swaps for two pens????? Doubtful Ernst, though it's interesting to note that both pens were bought at the same country auction house about 10 years apart and for ridiculously little money. This second pen cost me $2!

[Limerickoshea]

Been looking for a post like this! I just received my buffed and cleaned version (thank you Ron Zorn) of this same pen: black barrel with the Canadian imprint, gold tip dip nib marked "Sheaffer'S Made in Canada 14k-585 33." Tell tale rings on the chrome cap and a gold filled clip with "Sheaffer'S" stamped on it. Touchdown filler.

 

One pen is a swap, two a coincidence, but three is a production run I'm guessing!

[pen lady]

Oh ho! Well, isn't that interesting. Now all we need are some |Sheaffer Canada production archives. Dream on, dream on.........

Edited December 24, 2014 by pen lady

[3rdlakerobert]

I'm not so sure. The fact that I have another identical Canadian made pen (that I'd forgotten about when I first started this thread) makes me think that this is some kind of Cannuk Craftsman Super-de luxe Special. BTW, I tried unscrewing the nib - nuttin' Honey! But I didn't want to mess with it too much. Good to get your thoughts on this. It's a nice little pen and writes v. well.

 

I'd soak it, try, soak it, try, etc. Water with a little ammonia.

[pen lady]

Yes, I suppose I could Robert, thanks. But you know what, it's not a pen that I use and it's sitting nicely in it's box with the matching pencil not causing a ruckus. So, I'm inclined to leave well enough alone. As my old grandma said (well she didn't really but could have), "don't trouble trouble till trouble troubles you"!

[mitto]

Well, here is the fourth such pen :

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/297169-sheaffer-pen-id-please/