What Are Some Almost Bullet-Proof Inks, At Least Waterproof Or Water Resistant?

[WirsPlm]

I believe these are "bulletproof" inks as they are also cellulose reactive like Noodler's. Since the OP wants a water resistant blue ink that will not permanently stain his clothes I would recommend Pilot/Namiki blue:

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/241042-pilot-blue-bottle/

I think you've misunderstood, if the Pilot inks are cellulose-reactive they're going to have exactly the same problem as the OP wants to avoid (they'll stain the fabric of shirts and not wash off, just like clothing dyes), the Pilot inks are water resistant but I really don't think they're cellulose-reactive.

[Centurion]

Sailor Jentle Blue is somewhat water resistant, not waterproof.

Montblanc Midnight Blue (new version) also is water resistant.

 

In both these inks, some ink will wash away from the paper, but it is still readable. Should be okay for envelopes.

 

Ah, that's exactly what I am looking for. No big deal if some ink washed away, important it's still readable.

 

So sounds like waterproof and permanent mean the same thing, and its ink will NOT come out (wash out in the laundry) if it got on your clothes. I need to be looking at only water resistant inks, such as the following:

 

Sailor Jentle Blue

Montblanc Midnight Blue

Waterman Florida Blue

Lamy Blue

Pilot/Namiki Blue

Sailor Sei-Boku

Graf von Faber Castell Cobalt Blue

Noodler's V-Mail series (water resistant)

 

Now, I just have to find the shade of blue I like best.

[carlos.q]

I think you've misunderstood, if the Pilot inks are cellulose-reactive they're going to have exactly the same problem as the OP wants to avoid (they'll stain the fabric of shirts and not wash off, just like clothing dyes), the Pilot inks are water resistant but I really don't think they're cellulose-reactive.

Au contraire mon ami...

I never said Pilot ink was cellulose reactive: "Since the OP wants a water resistant blue ink that will not permanently stain his clothes I would recommend Pilot/Namiki blue:"

Pilot/Namiki blue is just very very water resistant as explained in Sandy1's review that I recommended in that post.

Edited June 29, 2014 by carlos.q

[recluse]

 

... I need to be looking at only water resistant inks, such as the following:

 

Sailor Jentle Blue

Montblanc Midnight Blue

Waterman Florida Blue

Lamy Blue

Pilot/Namiki Blue

Sailor Sei-Boku

Graf von Faber Castell Cobalt Blue

Noodler's V-Mail series (water resistant)

 

I wouldn't count on water resistance of Waterman Florida Blue and Lamy Blue. It's pretty much absent for everyday purposes.

[Brian1]

For an ink which will stay put if rained on when used for addressing an envelope but will come out if laundered I think Pilot Blue may fit the bill. Here is my testing of my bottle of Namiki Blue (30 year old bottle of Pilot blue).

 

In my testing a 5 minute soak in tap water barely budges the ink. 6 more hours of soaking in tap water lightens the ink some but it is still there. However, adding some dish detergent to the water and letting it soak for 4 hours and I have to look really hard to find out what was written.

 

 

The top line is from my bottle of Namiki blue (Pilot blue). Unsoaked is on the very far right. To the immedieate left until the first cut in the paper is text which was soaked in tap water for 5 minutes. The middle cut section is text which was soaked for an additional 6 hours. The far right section shows text which was soaked for an additional 4 hours but with tap water with dish detergent.

 

What I wrote is "Namik" on the section soaked with detergent. I have to look very hard to make out what I wrote. Ignore the cat hair which got on the paper when I took a photo of it.

[WirsPlm]

Au contraire mon ami...

I never said Pilot ink was cellulose reactive: "Since the OP wants a water resistant blue ink that will not permanently stain his clothes I would recommend Pilot/Namiki blue:"

Pilot/Namiki blue is just very very water resistant as explained in Sandy1's review that I recommended in that post.

Huh, I did not see the list of inks in your post, sorry, my bad. That makes your original post much clearer, and I have no idea how I didn't notice them.

Edited June 30, 2014 by WirsPlm

[wallylynn]

 

So sounds like waterproof and permanent mean the same thing, and its ink will NOT come out (wash out in the laundry) if it got on your clothes. I need to be looking at only water resistant inks, such as the following:

Back in the day, "permanent" was to distinguish from school ink. Meaning if you got it on your clothes, you also get a spanking from mom.

 

You're looking for something that both does not wash out, and also does wash out. Quite the contradiction.

 

I'll suggest BSB. Very waterproof. But if you do get it on your shirt, wash it (the stain will stay). But it'll disappear when you hang it outside in the sunshine to dry. You can also use other solvents to remove it if the cloth permits.

[martinbir]

A bit of lateral thinking . . .

 

If the problem is that cellulose reactive inks will also react with cellulose in the shirt then maybe go for man-made fibre shirts.

[fiberdrunk]

Hi, I have a ton of Noodler's bullet-proof inks, now I am looking for a ink, especially blue ink, that's at least water resistant. An ink I could address an envelope to be mailed by snail mail, and not worry if the envelope got rained on. And also not worry if the pen somehow leaked a little ink and got on my shirt. I could simply wash out the ink stain when doing my laundry.

 

 

 

Any of the iron gall inks would be waterproof, and could be bleached from clothing if necessary. Chesterfield Archival Vault (Diamine Registrars Ink) is a good one.

 

Also, there's a great product called MicroGlaze which will waterproof your writing. It's a waxy cream that you rub over your writing.

 

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61xLG6lAXAL._SL1500_.jpg

Edited July 1, 2014 by fiberdrunk

[dspeers58]

Pilot/namiki blue

Faber Castell Cobalt

Iroshizuku blues

Sailor pigmented Black (nano) or Blue-black

[Cepasaccus]

Not blue, but containing a water resitant componen:

 

Pelikan 4001 black

MB Irish Green

[ravantra]

I have the perfect solution.

1. Bulletproof
2. Blue
3. No problem if it leaks

Noodler's Bulletproof Blue Ghost

 

[welch]

- Pilot blue, as already suggested. I mix in some Asa-gao, my favorite blue, since ordinary Pilot Blue is "uninspiring"

- Vintage Quink Royal Blue, the ink in the art deco bottles, is very stubborn. Hard to wash off of paper.

- Vintage Skrip Royal Blue is also a stubborn ink. I have a couple of bottles from boxes that advertise the Snorkel

 

Consider, though: if you want serious permanent blue then you've got an ink that wants to bond with clothing. That's why our parents insisted we use washable inks. They had seen 1930s and '40s inks ruin shirts.