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I have been having this visual issue for a long time, and wanted to see what some of you guys have done for it.

I am using ruled paper (notebooks and composition books) for my journaling, and I discovered that with my blue ink (Cross/Pelikan) I visually sometimes have trouble reading the writing. Having written on blank paper as a comparison, where I could easily read the writing, I determined that the blueish lines are creating a visual distraction from the blue ink.

 

Thinking darker, I tried a blue/black ink, however it was really more of a blue/gray rather than a blue/black. While darker it was actually just as difficult to read, because it seemed closer to the color of the line than the brighter Cross/Pelikan ink. My next is to try a DARKER blue/black ink.

 

I am trying to avoid BLACK ink, as that is visually a little too harsh for the LOT of writing that I do in my journals.

 

I have no problem when using BLACK ink or RED ink.

I think in this case there is enough visual separation between the ink and line colors.

So if I want to still use a blue ink, what are your experiences?

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Can u show a photo of your paper to give an idea of the blueness of it?

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I've had good luck with Noodler's Zhivago (and very dark black-green mix) as a slightly more interesting alternative to black. Alternatively, you could try Noodler's Ottoman Azure which is a fairly deep blue that shouldn't blend against the lines.

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A scan of the paper would be very helpful. I think you want to stay away from the inks that are more turquoise you may want to consider a darker purplish ink like Tanzanite or Bilberry.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

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Hi,

 

If you're not getting the desired separation by changing the value (light to dark) of the ink, I'll suggest saturated inks that have high chroma (brilliance/vibrancy); and diluting the ink with [distilled] water to dial-in the value for a given pen+paper combo.

 

Even though it has a few foibles, Noodler's Baystate Blue at about 80% concentration (4 parts ink + 1 part water) is very snappy and performs reasonably well. (Kindly avail yourself of the trove of information about that ink before clicking the 'Add to cart' button.)

 

Another to consider is Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue, which has high chroma and responds very well to dilution.

 

Also, Member The Good Captain has posted numerous samples written on lined paper, so those should provide some guidance. (Seek the sample/s of MrPen Radiant Blue.)

 

When I've been given [naughty_word] narrow ruled paper printed with solid lines, I just rotated the paper 90° and wrote across the lines, or used the back (verso) if it wasn't ruled.

 

Perhaps the best way to deal with lined paper has come from Whitelines® - they have an impressive array of products that even yours truly can tolerate. (Their isometric ruled paper is handy.) http://whitelines.se/products/

 

Bye,

S1

 

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See also:

> Noodler's Baystate Blue - Dilution: 100, 80, 66 & 40% https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/180675-dilution-noodlers-baystate-blue/

> Private Reserve DC Supershow Blue - Dilution: 100, 70 & 35% https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/239373-dilution-private-reserve-dc-supershow-blue/page__view__findpost__p__2590755

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Noodler's Golden Brown

PR Spearmint Green

Iroshizuku Yama-budo

 

I use these most happily in my blue-lined notebooks

 

My regular Noodler's Blue is also vibrant and saturated enough to dominate the blue/turquoise lines

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Here is a scan pix of a page.

Top ink is Cross/Pelikan blue.

Bottom ink is a Dux blue/black. The scan image is not correct in color, the actual color is more of a grayish blue/black.

 

I did try a sample of Yama-budo, but did not like the purple color.

I guess purple is not my color.

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Okay, I went looking through some of my archives. I think you may just want to step away from blue inks. Check out red.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Inklings/slides/2013-Ink_515.jpg

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Seconding the recommendation for a blurple like PR Tanzanite or R&K Cassia. A dusty purple like Diamine Damson or J. Herbin Poussiere de Lune would be another good option. A dark green, though, would be my first choice: Diamine Sherwood Green, Noodler's Green Marine, PR Avocado. Runner up, a dark, dark red: Noodler's Red-Black, Diamine Syrah or Oxblood—Red Dragon if you are feeling more adventurous. If those are all just too colorful, perhaps a brown? And last thought, if this is filler paper that isn't the best quality, something like R&K Scabiosa might be perfect. It performs wonderfully on bad paper.

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I also looked, my ink cards have blue lines.

 

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Inklings/slides/2013-Ink_537.jpg

 

You can look at the tons of ink samples on my website and get some ideas. If you have any that you particularly want to see, I can try and help.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oh and Sandy1 - that paper looks cool. I've stayed away from it because I thought it would be FP unfriendly, but if anyone has a FP Ink fetish......

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm beginning to think that this "problem" might have been why I used BLACK ink in college.

Thanks guys.

 

@Amber

I like your cards. I do something similar but on a whole sheet of paper with other papers taped on, so that I have ink samples on 4 different papers.

But your cards are so much simpler to use.

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I'm beginning to think that this "problem" might have been why I used BLACK ink in college.

Thanks guys.

 

@Amber

I like your cards. I do something similar but on a whole sheet of paper with other papers taped on, so that I have ink samples on 4 different papers.

But your cards are so much simpler to use.

 

 

I admit it .... the idea was from a fellow FPNer. It allows me to compare inks side by side when I want.

 

If it makes you feel any better, I used black in a lot in college too.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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If you want to stay with blue I think there are two options:

 

1. Go with a very heavily saturated deep sea type blue. This should help the ink stand out and draw your eyes away from the lines. Private Reserve American Blue is an ink I have been experimenting with lately and I find it to be quite bold.

 

2. Go with a blue black the is on the black side of the spectrum. Something like Noodler's Air Corp Blue Black or De Atramentis Black-Blue comes to mind.

 

You could also look into Roher & Klinger Verdigris which is a dark blue with a hint of green. The ink is quite bold and the subtle green might help it stand out.

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Orange is your complementary colour, there. That being said, your paper is white, and really anything aside from white ink will work, there. Don't really need to match the lines.

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Orange is your complementary colour, there. That being said, your paper is white, and really anything aside from white ink will work, there. Don't really need to match the lines.

 

Hey, welcome to FPN. :W2FPN:

 

 

I think the goal is that the colors the OP used are too similar to the lines and he wants something that absolutely does not match the lines. I like orange, and agree it's easy to see, but I can understand that it would get really old to have journals full of orange ink.

 

 

Kung Te-cheng is indigo blue and stands out well on lined paper.

 

Oh, great idea and a great ink!

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hey, welcome to FPN. :W2FPN:

 

 

I think the goal is that the colors the OP used are too similar to the lines and he wants something that absolutely does not match the lines. I like orange, and agree it's easy to see, but I can understand that it would get really old to have journals full of orange ink.

 

Thanks!

 

And that's sort of what I meant. The problem (as far as I understood the OP) is that he finds the blue lines a distraction from his blue ink. People keep suggesting other blues in this thread. I disagree. If one looks at the picture you put up (great pic by the way: you have a lot of twsbis!) the orange one at centre bottom is the one that really pops. If something like that is too bright (and for me it would be) then I would go with a more browny/burnt orange, perhaps a Private Reserve Copper Burst?

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@b8

I think orange would be too hard on the eyes.

I can do no more than half a page of Sheaffer Skrip red. More than that and my eyes don't like it.

However a darker shade of either might work, as it kills the brightness of the color.

I need to check the ink samples and see what might work.

 

Hmm, maybe I need to pull out the brown ink and give it another try.

 

I was also thinking about Diamine Midnight.

Blue but VERY dark.

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Well, OP, we are waiting to get more direction from you. :)

 

Oops you posted at the same time.

Fountain pens are my preferred COLOR DELIVERY SYSTEM (in part because crayons melt in Las Vegas).

Create a Ghostly Avatar and I'll send you a letter. Check out some Ink comparisons: The Great PPS Comparison 

Don't know where to start?  Look at the Inky Topics O'day.  Then, see inks sorted by color: Blue Purple Brown Red Green Dark Green Orange Black Pinks Yellows Blue-Blacks Grey/Gray UVInks Turquoise/Teal MURKY

 

 

 

 

 

 

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