Standard International Cartridge Converter Doesn't Fit

[whoelse]

I have the impression that standard international converter can be use on Kaigelu, Jinhao and Duke etc. I just try them, non of them fit into my standard International cartridge. The opening on the converter provided by Chinese pens seems larger than standard international.

 

Can someone confirm this?

[richardandtracy]

With my Kaigelu 316 I would wish to refute this. I have just tried an international cartridge & it fitted fine.

 

Regards,

 

Richard

[Paul80]

Hi

 

I also have many Chinese pens from the likes of Jinhao, Duke, Picasso and kaigelu, Hero and can confirm that standard international cartridges and converters fit all of them fine.

 

Paul

[whoelse]

Really? That was what I understand also. I do have pen like Kaigelu 316, Jinhao 601/X750, Duke D209/D2-1 and all the converter are interchangeable.

 

I have 2 Pelikan converters I tried on these Chinese pen and none of them fit. Something is wrong somewhere. I purchase 1 extra Pelikan converter for Chinese pen.

 

Maybe it's the Pelikan one, which brand were you guys using?

Edited January 10, 2014 by whoelse

[richardandtracy]

I used a cartridge rather than a c/c. It was a Diamine one. It did fit.

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

[whoelse]

Strange... I will try a Waterman Converter and see how.

[whoelse]

After trying Pelikan converter, I tried Waterman and again they are too small to fit into all my Chinese pens.

To confirm that, I put the Chinese converter in my Pelikan and Waterman it is so loose there is no friction and would not stay.

 

I am thinking because cartridges might have more flexibility in the plastic or the opening was make larger and since it pierce into the opening to create a hole it fit according to the part that pierce into it?

 

At least that is my findings.

Edited January 11, 2014 by whoelse

[mhguda]

It would seem the nipple on your pens is wider than standard. My experience echoes that of the others who have posted here. And more: I have used standard Schmidt converters in some of my Chinese pens such as Baoer, Jinhao, and no trouble fitting them. Cartridges, from the small no-names to Watermans, fit with no issues.

Have you tried to fit a Parker converter or cartridge? Those are designed for a wider nipple, and maybe you'll be lucky and that will fit your pens. The benefit of a Parker cartridge is that it carries a nice volume of ink...

[whoelse]

It would seem the nipple on your pens is wider than standard. My experience echoes that of the others who have posted here. And more: I have used standard Schmidt converters in some of my Chinese pens such as Baoer, Jinhao, and no trouble fitting them. Cartridges, from the small no-names to Watermans, fit with no issues.

Have you tried to fit a Parker converter or cartridge? Those are designed for a wider nipple, and maybe you'll be lucky and that will fit your pens. The benefit of a Parker cartridge is that it carries a nice volume of ink...

 

I dunno but I have:

 

1 x Duke D209

1 x Duke D2-1

2 x Jinhao X750

1 x Jinhao 601

1 x Kaigelu 316

 

Each have their own converter.

 

Standard International Converter pens I have.

 

1 x Pelikan Classic P381 + 2 x Pelikan Converters

1 x Waterman Expert Mk I + Waterman Converter

[whoelse]

Good idea, I have a Parker one I will try now...not Parker one is too big.

[hazcat]

I cleaned up a couple of model 602 pens and tried to put converters on them out and could not get them to fit. Very vexing since I used converters on them before. Turns out that the ones that I had taken off of the pens fit just fine. The converters that did not fit were from a bagful I had bought from a well regarded Chinese seller on eBay. There is definitely a difference in the size.

[Paul80]

I had an interesting find in a package from China in the post yesterday. The pen in question was fitted with an international converter as expected with Chinese pens and the nipple on that converter was the standard international size so standard international cartridges also fitted fine.

 

Now to the interesting bit, also in the box with the pen where 2 cartridges, one black and one blue. Nothing odd in that I hear you all say as most do that, yes they do but the interesting thing about these two cartridges was that they where both 50% longer than standard international cartridges and only one had the standard international size nipple! the other one was much bigger! almost Parker size but not quite Parker size. I wonder if some Chinese makers are trying to introduce their own sized fitting and that's what the problem is the OP is having with his pen.

 

Paul

[whoelse]

Yes that is right. I bought a Parker converter to be use on Hero 892 which has interchangeable parts with a Parker 45 and the converter is compatible.

The international converter suppose to be able to use on other Chinese pen do not fit. I have so many Chinese pen and 3 international converter and they all do not like each others. All other Chinese pen converter are interchangeable.

 

As of why international cartridges (not converter) fit on them I believe because it is piercing into it, it adjust accordingly able to expand the opening accordingly.

 

I also have a tip, instead of those flimsy spring agitator and take up precious space in converter, I replace them with 2.5mm ceramic bearings.

 

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Ceramic Bearing Ball Si3N4 G5 Dia 2.5mm

Material: Silicone Nitride /Si3N4

Grade: G5

Dia/Diameter: 2.5mm