The Substitues Of Pilot Iroshizuku

[mhosea]

Oops, same inputs, same outputs. I just posted an almost duplicate response without realizing that this was a resurrected thread.

Edited June 30, 2014 by mhosea

[napalm]

 

Pilot BB is a good blue black on many fronts - water resistant, nice shading, well-behaved, doesn't feather/bleed with many combinations, etc. Yet if you have to compare it with Iro's blue black, Shin-kai, then there are certain differences, though subtle. Pilot BB isn't dry, but I've found Shin-kai to be a lot wetter, with a higher tendency to feather. Pilot BB also has a purplish tint which Shin-kai does not exhibit, as it is greyer/ steelier, though that might just be due to my sensitivity to the purple colour. It really depends on your preferences. I dislike any hint of purple in my writing so Pilot BB is out (well, I should say that to most people the purple-ness is quite subtle), yet when I use Shin-kai I'll have to tame it with a dryer fp. If you are looking for a less expensive, all-round blue black, and don't mind purple, Pilot BB is a good option.

 

This is Pilot Blue Black in action, with professional camera & lighting operator + talented artist:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r08ZpZxCUSA

[paultyler_82]

Fuyu-gaki is one of my favorite iro inks, the only approximations I've found are Noodler's Dragon's Napalm which is more pink, and Diamine Vermillion which is not as saturated and is a dry writer, though a few drops of glycerin can remedy that

[Renfield]

I personally find the Iroshizuku range a little bland, but there are some nice colours.

 

Not dead ringers, but close enough to my eye

 

Yama Budo - Diamine Syrah

Fuyu Gaki - Diamine Blaze Orange

Kon Peki - Most darker turquoise inks,

 

Yama Guri - MB Toffee Brown, not the same, but far better.

 

The ones its harder or impossible to compare

 

Tsuki Yo - Hard to find a match for this one

 

Fuyo Syogun - No match anywhere near.

 

 

Ren

[mhosea]

Sailor Sky High was an old favorite substitute for Kon Peki. Looks like Souten is pretty close.

 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/71953993@N00/favorites/with/5595636014/lightbox/

 

I think with Yama Budo there is nothing very much like it. You need to decide whether you want something burgundy or something magenta. It's hard to find an ink that's both at the same time the way Yama Budo seems.

[napalm]

I think with Yama Budo there is nothing very much like it. You need to decide whether you want something burgundy or something magenta. It's hard to find an ink that's both at the same time the way Yama Budo seems.

 

Most of them do this, this picture is an excellent illustration:

 

http://www.ciar-roisin.net/photos/ink/Iroshizuku200811.jpg

 

Depending on wetness, they change not only saturation, but also hue.... Most inks that I know are flat like paint, no hue changes (think BSB).

[Pira]

Noodler's Golden Brown is a great substitute for Ina-Ho.

 

 

Here is an example of these two on Stillman & Birn Zeta paper photographed in sunlight.....

 

Light brown ink comparison by Pira U, on Flickr