Seyes Ruled Paper

[zoniguana]

Just a curiosity... Is the "French-ruled" Seyes paper pretty much a universal among school kids in Europe, or is it only used in certain areas?

Are there normally varying widths to the ruling (like college ruled versus wide-ruled here in the US), or is it just a single standard?

Can anybody over the pond enlighten me on this?

Thanks!

[chrevbel]

I'm not familiar with the Seyes ruling in France (though it could be the same as in Germany and I just don't know it by name.) In Germany, standard First Grade ruling is a three-portion line that's about 9/16" high. Second Grade ruling is similar, but shorter. Both of them resemble the "Sky-Grass-Dirt" ruling that I've seen from Mead in the American market, if that provides any reference. Third Grade reduces the ruling to a single line, but the lines are separated by a shaded space. Sorry, but don't have pictures of these at the moment, or I'd share

[chrevbel]

don't have pictures of these at the moment...

Here is an example of first grade ruling in Germany. And for comparison, second grade and third grade.

 

It looks like Seyes ruling is similar but also includes vertical lines to aid in spacing and alignment. I've never seen that in German Schulhefte, but square-ruled notebooks are extremely popular, especially for older students.

[zoniguana]

don't have pictures of these at the moment...

Here is an example of first grade ruling in Germany. And for comparison, second grade and third grade.

 

It looks like Seyes ruling is similar but also includes vertical lines to aid in spacing and alignment. I've never seen that in German Schulhefte, but square-ruled notebooks are extremely popular, especially for older students.

Viellen Dank! The third-grade book looks like it would be pretty useful for helping to keep consistent "body" sizes. The Syes adds an extra line, compared to the 1st and 2nd grade books you showed. There is a download of the Seyes ruling on this site, but, here's another link, as well: 3mm Seyes Rule

 

In trying to re-train my hand to write more legibly/consistently (Current example here), I'm leaning towards the Seyes bit, but, really, anything that aids in consistency is right up my alley!

[chrevbel]

Viellen Dank! The third-grade book looks like it would be pretty useful for helping to keep consistent "body" sizes. The Syes adds an extra line, compared to the 1st and 2nd grade books you showed. There is a download of the Seyes ruling on this site, but, here's another link, as well: 3mm Seyes Rule

 

In trying to re-train my hand to write more legibly/consistently (Current example here), I'm leaning towards the Seyes bit, but, really, anything that aids in consistency is right up my alley!

You may want to check out incompetech.com, as well. His notebook paper generators are very tailorable and customizable. Pretty easy to experiment and see what you like and don't like, and especially to get your line spacing sized just so.

[zoniguana]

Viellen Dank! The third-grade book looks like it would be pretty useful for helping to keep consistent "body" sizes. The Syes adds an extra line, compared to the 1st and 2nd grade books you showed. There is a download of the Seyes ruling on this site, but, here's another link, as well: 3mm Seyes Rule

 

In trying to re-train my hand to write more legibly/consistently (Current example here), I'm leaning towards the Seyes bit, but, really, anything that aids in consistency is right up my alley!

You may want to check out incompetech.com, as well. His notebook paper generators are very tailorable and customizable. Pretty easy to experiment and see what you like and don't like, and especially to get your line spacing sized just so.

He even has a template based around double-lined penmanship practice, which is pretty nifty. I might have to print up a few of those and compare one to the next to see which one I like better... Biggest difference I see between this and the Seyes is that Seyes provides lines for the "tails" of the letters as well, but, I can probably manage around that, if I'm so inclined... Thanks again!

[Horizon_Painter]

I was taught to write by the French in the sixties.

 

Not only did we have Seyes lines on our notebooks, but at the start of every day one of the pupils had the honour of creating Seyes lines on the blackboard where everyone had to demonstrate their abilities. In fact, before we got notebooks we practised on our own slates (actual rock that broke very easily) - on which we of course had to draw Seyes lines before starting - all with a slate pencil. I think we carried slates with us for a year before getting paper notebooks. The letter shapes had to be PERFECT.

 

My handwriting has never looked better than it did then - I threw it all away at adolescence. Some of my French friends have kept their handwriting skills and it looks great with a fountain pen. I'll probably have to go back to school for a few sessions of 'graphothérapie' (there are some cool videos out there of kids practising with their eyes closed, speed writing curls etc.).

 

Random examples of old French notebooks with typical handwriting: http://archives.cg37.fr/Actualite.php?theme=3&idactualite=70