Edison Steel Or Gold? And Differences Between Bexley And Edison?

[pelicanachic]

I'm not sure this has been discussed in the from before.

 

I recently purchased edison herald. however, I don't like m nib so I tried to get f or ef edison nib

 

what bugs me is that I haven't decided yet which material I would choose for my new nib.

 

is there much difference between edison steel nib and gold nib enough to forget about the price gap?

 

 

 

 

and I've once used bexley 18k fnib

 

I kinda like it though the nib width was just a bit wider than my taste

 

is there much diffrence between bexely gold nib and edison gold nib?

 

 

 

p.s. the title misspelled. it's not god. it's gold.

Edited October 24, 2011 by pelicanachic

[jde]

I'm not sure this has been discussed in the from before.

 

I recently purchased edison herald. however, I don't like m nib so I tried to get f or ef edison nib

 

what bugs me is that I haven't decided yet which material I would choose for my new nib.

 

is there much difference between edison steel nib and gold nib enough to forget about the price gap?

 

 

 

 

and I've once used bexley 18k fnib

 

I kinda like it though the nib width was just a bit wider than my taste

 

is there much diffrence between bexely gold nib and edison gold nib?

 

 

 

p.s. the title misspelled. it's not god. it's gold.

 

 

Just in case you haven't: did you try contacting Brian at Edison about getting an F nib? (I think an EF would be a custom grind, but I could be oh so wrong.) He might be able to help you.

 

Steel nibs can be great, wonderfully smooth and Edison steel nibs certainly are in that category.

 

While Brian has famously written in favor of steel nibs (see his article "In Praise of Steel Nibs"), there are IMHO notable differences between steel and gold. Part of it is aesthetics, they do not look the same and depending on your pen material this may not be an issue. For a custom Mina I originally opted for steel and found the aethestics too jarring with the ebonite material I choose. And so ended up getting an 18K for this pen. (Have 3 nibs for this Mina and all are smooth: the original steel customized to a stub, an italic 1.9 and the 18K. The Minas hold smaller #5 nibs and don't have the Edison logo as yet. All the other pens, I think, carry nibs with the logo and are larger #6 nibs.)

 

I do not feel there is much writing difference between modern 14K and steel nibs. However...18K: the writing feel is slightly different with an 18K—which can give a hint of spring or a more definite spring while writing. If you are an occasional writer or note taker you may not notice any difference between the steel or 18K. Having tried to embrace the steel is no different crowd, I've come back to gold. I'm not anti-steel by any means and the economics certainly come into play with a new pen. I do think it's important to consider which works for you over all.

 

I've limited experience with Bexley and so cannot say with any certainty that the writing experience would be similar.

[Tiffanyhenschel]

I have no experience with Bexley nibs, but I do have several Edison nibs in both steel and gold. One thing to note is that an Edison fine is very fine -- along the lines of a Japanese rather than a European fine. Regarding gold vs. steel, my experiences are similar to Jde above. An Edison steel is extremely smooth, among the smoothest you will find in fine and x-fine. The 18k has some subtle spring, though, that makes the writing experience come alive. It may not be a noticeable difference for you, though. Brian is very easy to work with. My suggestion is to determine the nib size you want and try that in steel first. You can always upgrade it to gold. I may be mistaken, but I believe he will take your steel nib in trade-in credit towards the gold. Even if not, you are still only out $25 for the steel nib. (And I have found times when an extra nib comes in handy anyway.)

[jde]

<snip> One thing to note is that an Edison fine is very fine -- along the lines of a Japanese rather than a European fine. </snip>

 

Not to hijack this thread. Having used both Japanese fines and Edison fines, and with the utmost respect for someone who shares Edison pen love, this not my experience at all. I'd call an Edison fine very much in the Western vein of fine.

 

However, I'd love to see a comparison in another thread or back channel if you would, Tiffany. That would certainly rock my nib perspective some more.

 

Best and kind regards,

Julie

Edited October 24, 2011 by jde

[Deb T]

When I purchased my first Edison Nouveau Premiere I ordered it with a M nib. I decided I wanted a fine. I contacted Goulet Pens, where I bought the Nouveau, and they sold me a fine nib. I'm sure Brian would do the same over at Edison Pens if he had one to sell.

 

Deb

 

I'm not sure this has been discussed in the from before.

 

I recently purchased edison herald. however, I don't like m nib so I tried to get f or ef edison nib

 

what bugs me is that I haven't decided yet which material I would choose for my new nib.

 

is there much difference between edison steel nib and gold nib enough to forget about the price gap?

 

 

 

 

and I've once used bexley 18k fnib

 

I kinda like it though the nib width was just a bit wider than my taste

 

is there much diffrence between bexely gold nib and edison gold nib?

 

 

 

p.s. the title misspelled. it's not god. it's gold.

 

 

Just in case you haven't: did you try contacting Brian at Edison about getting an F nib? (I think an EF would be a custom grind, but I could be oh so wrong.) He might be able to help you.

 

Steel nibs can be great, wonderfully smooth and Edison steel nibs certainly are in that category.

 

While Brian has famously written in favor of steel nibs (see his article "In Praise of Steel Nibs"), there are IMHO notable differences between steel and gold. Part of it is aesthetics, they do not look the same and depending on your pen material this may not be an issue. For a custom Mina I originally opted for steel and found the aethestics too jarring with the ebonite material I choose. And so ended up getting an 18K for this pen. (Have 3 nibs for this Mina and all are smooth: the original steel customized to a stub, an italic 1.9 and the 18K. The Minas hold smaller #5 nibs and don't have the Edison logo as yet. All the other pens, I think, carry nibs with the logo and are larger #6 nibs.)

 

I do not feel there is much writing difference between modern 14K and steel nibs. However...18K: the writing feel is slightly different with an 18K—which can give a hint of spring or a more definite spring while writing. If you are an occasional writer or note taker you may not notice any difference between the steel or 18K. Having tried to embrace the steel is no different crowd, I've come back to gold. I'm not anti-steel by any means and the economics certainly come into play with a new pen. I do think it's important to consider which works for you over all.

 

I've limited experience with Bexley and so cannot say with any certainty that the writing experience would be similar.

[jimhughes]

Several Months ago Brian produced a document, comparing steel and gold nibs. It was on FPN. A search may find it. I, believe, he has this article on his web stie edisonpen.

If not locatable PM Brian on his "Contact us" section of web site, I'm sure he can send you a copy.

 

My personal experience with Edison Fine and XF nibs in both Steel and gold are, equal line width, smmoothness, 7/10 wetness(at my request), identical in all aspects whether it's gold or steel. This is a survey reflecting 6 Edison Pens. Now I will choose a gold nib based on how it looks with the materials colour I've chosen. Writing with either, I can't tell the difference. I also have a steel Waverly model XXF by Richard Binder for my Pelikan 205's. It too is perfectly behaved, smooth, no feedbach excellent writer. YMMV, Jim

 

Edit: I see someone else has mentioned the document I alluded to in my opening paragraph.

Line width wise I found the Edison Fine's I have are similar to my Sheaffer and other vintage pen line widths. This would theoretically be a Western, not SEA fine. My Nakaya Piccolo Cigar is an XF which is darn close to the 0.15 to 0.16 line widths of my Edisons. The EF is a special order grind, I believe it was $40-50.00 in gold or steel.

Edited October 24, 2011 by jimhughes

[bgray]

I'll jump in here....

 

JDE linked the article above for my thoughts on Steel vs. Gold. By the title (In Praise of Steel Nibs), you can gather my general opinion. In a nutshell.....considering the large price difference, try steel first, and then decide if the extra cost is important to you personally. If you want to exchange, I'll apply the cost of the steel nib towards a gold upgrade. They simply unscrew.

 

If you are ever unhappy with a nib width, I never turn down an exchange unless the nib is damaged, or if I've done a custom grind on it (if you're unhappy with the custom grind, I'll generally figure out what it takes to get it right, rather than exchange).

 

When it comes to nib widths, they are all standard German tip sizes (western standards).

 

The Goulets did a real nice video and document showing the nib sizes and results with my nibs here....

http://www.inknouveau.com/2011/03/edison-nouveau-premiere-nib-comparison.html

 

Now keep in mind that there are SOOOO many factors that can effect the writing width of a pen nib. Flow, ink, paper, humidity, and yes, sometimes there can be a little variation in the tip size from the factory (although I find my nibs to have very, very, little variation from the factory)...I could go on. But what you see above is what you should expect under most conditions.

 

And that being said - keep your ear to the ground for a pretty cool nib-related announcement this week!

Edited October 25, 2011 by bgray

[pelicanachic]

thanks all for your kind replies

 

I recently exchanged some e-mails with brain. He was indeed helpful to share his idea with me

 

and I ordered gold f nib. I followed your advices that gold nib would give a better writing experiences.

 

can't wait to see it fitted on my Edison Herald!!!

Edited October 27, 2011 by pelicanachic