What Adhesive/glue To Hold Together Pens?

[Stokes]

Hey Guys,

I finally got the nib portion of my MB 146 out of the cap. I was then able to see where everything was coming apart.

There was some gummy stuff in some areas that I assumed were to hold it together (and not just old ink), but I'm unsure if it works well, or if it should be there.

 

Your advise on what stuff to use would be most helpful. I need to have it to keep the two halves of the barrel together, as well as the collar to nib, and the nib into the section.

[Chthulhu]

The standard adhesive for assembling vintage pens is shellac. Some pen manufacturers also used resin-based sealants in threaded areas. Some of the pen repair people who frequent FPN offer either or both for sale.

[Fermata]

Hey Guys,

I finally got the nib portion of my MB 146 out of the cap. I was then able to see where everything was coming apart.

There was some gummy stuff in some areas that I assumed were to hold it together (and not just old ink), but I'm unsure if it works well, or if it should be there.

 

Your advise on what stuff to use would be most helpful. I need to have it to keep the two halves of the barrel together, as well as the collar to nib, and the nib into the section.

 

 

Unless you are really confident in what you are doing I would leave this repair to an expert

[professionaldilettante]

Hey Guys,

I finally got the nib portion of my MB 146 out of the cap. I was then able to see where everything was coming apart.

There was some gummy stuff in some areas that I assumed were to hold it together (and not just old ink), but I'm unsure if it works well, or if it should be there.

 

Your advise on what stuff to use would be most helpful. I need to have it to keep the two halves of the barrel together, as well as the collar to nib, and the nib into the section.

 

 

Unless you are really confident in what you are doing I would leave this repair to an expert

Ditto. You could do a lot of damage even though those things are reversible.

[Stokes]

I've had better luck in learning to do things myself than to rely on 'professionals' to step up to the plate. Everyone had to do it the first time before they could do it a second.

 

I don't think this particular procedure is neurosurgery, probably not even rocket science. Assembling a fountain pen together should be a fairly easy procedure. I just wanna use the right stuff.

[OcalaFlGuy]

<Jeremy Clarkson on the REAL Top Gear> What could possibly go wrong? <Jeremy Clarkson on the REAL Top Gear/>

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL-the U.S. boys are a bunch of copycat whankers

[OldGriz]

Assembling a fountain pen together should be a fairly easy procedure.

 

You have obviously never tried to repair a piston filler, Sheaffer wire fill, a safety pen or some of the other more complicated systems....

There are some filler systems that are almost rocket science or surgery....

It is not good to be too cocky about your abilities when trying something new.

Bad things have been known to happen, even to those of us who do it professionally.

[Stokes]

Well, I have changed seals in a a few piston fillers (much like the MB146 I've mentioned needing assembly in this thread). I'd hope I'd come off more as confident than cocky, but once the amateurs start figuring stuff out for themselves, I can see where the professionals might feel a pinch.

 

This MB146 probably has been an easier thing to figure out than my other projects this weekend:

Front brakes on my Honda

Assembly of a Winchester 1892

Teardown, refinish, and assembly of a 1911

And, I changed out the heating element in my clothes dryer.

 

 

BTW, do you see that Rolex 5512 avatar picture I use? Yeah, I don't mind tearing those down and putting them back together either, and they're surely more complicated than a pen.

 

So, I have a bit of mechanical ability (including a BSME), and am not scared by 'parts'. But, if none of you know, or choose not to share, the compound that MB uses to assemble their pens, that's OK. I'm sure I'll figure it out at some point.

Edited August 15, 2011 by Stokes

[flighter51]

That goo they put in those sections is just nasty and annoying. I used silicone grease to get mine ink tight with no problems. It took a lot of grease though. Or you could just spend the cash and let the pros handle it. I am like you, I do my own repairs and I do not care how long it takes to figure it out.

 

Best of luck!

 

fern

[OldGriz]

but once the amateurs start figuring stuff out for themselves, I can see where the professionals might feel a pinch.

 

I doubt very much that the pros will feel the pinch at all... considering that some have waiting times in the neighborhood of 20 weeks and a lot of us are still a couple of weeks.

Also if the pros were worried about feeling the pinch, they would not freely give help and advise on the site.

[Beechwood]

Good luck

 

G

 

"Named must your fear be before banish it you can"Yoda

Edited August 15, 2011 by Arthur

[Stokes]

 

Also if the pros were worried about feeling the pinch, they would not freely give help and advise on the site.

 

 

You might be right, but I've yet to experience it on this issue. I'll guess you use something other than magic pixie dust. Maybe even something us amateurs can get our hands on.

[Chthulhu]

but once the amateurs start figuring stuff out for themselves, I can see where the professionals might feel a pinch.

 

I doubt very much that the pros will feel the pinch at all... considering that some have waiting times in the neighborhood of 20 weeks and a lot of us are still a couple of weeks.

Also if the pros were worried about feeling the pinch, they would not freely give help and advise on the site.

 

Additionally, even the pros weren't pros when they started. Not everyone is completely inept when it comes to doing this sort of thing for the first time, and it's not as though pen repair is taught in schools.

[OldGriz]

but once the amateurs start figuring stuff out for themselves, I can see where the professionals might feel a pinch.

 

I doubt very much that the pros will feel the pinch at all... considering that some have waiting times in the neighborhood of 20 weeks and a lot of us are still a couple of weeks.

Also if the pros were worried about feeling the pinch, they would not freely give help and advise on the site.

 

Additionally, even the pros weren't pros when they started. Not everyone is completely inept when it comes to doing this sort of thing for the first time, and it's not as though pen repair is taught in schools.

 

Never stated that everyone is completely inept... I was just warning that pen work is not as easy as some would like to believe and caution should be taken....

And you are correct we were not pros when we started... but I know most of us did not start on high end pens either... we learned on junk pens until we got the confidence to go to higher end pens and more complicated filler systems

[OldGriz]

Also if the pros were worried about feeling the pinch, they would not freely give help and advise on the site.

 

 

You might be right, but I've yet to experience it on this issue. I'll guess you use something other than magic pixie dust. Maybe even something us amateurs can get our hands on.

 

You have already been told what to use for the repair... and you are right it is not magic pixie dust.... it is magic faerie dust.... totally different.

You amateurs can get all of it you need at the local hardware store...

[pajaro]

Now that you have stirred up this much interest, please do let us know how this works out.

 

Edit to add: I would use shellac. The strategy of using it is that it can be undone with gentle heat, leaving parts intact.

Edited August 15, 2011 by pajaro

[Fermata]

Now that you have stirred up this much interest, please do let us know how this works out.

 

Edit to add: I would use shellac. The strategy of using it is that it can be undone with gentle heat, leaving parts intact.

 

 

Interest wasnt the word I had in mind, it was quite a bit shorter, and more pungent.

[framebaer]

Also if the pros were worried about feeling the pinch, they would not freely give help and advise on the site.

 

 

You might be right, but I've yet to experience it on this issue. I'll guess you use something other than magic pixie dust. Maybe even something us amateurs can get our hands on.

 

In Fact ,Tom gave you what the restorers use given the fact that the Montblanc sealant ( yeah, that pink rosiny stuff) is proprietary to them and they share NOTHING with restorers in the hobby.

 

Probably kinda like you asking Rolex for some parts if you're not an authorized Rolex repairer. In fact the only authorized Montblanc pen repair is Montblanc.

[framebaer]

<Jeremy Clarkson on the REAL Top Gear> What could possibly go wrong? <Jeremy Clarkson on the REAL Top Gear/>

 

Bruce in Ocala, FL-the U.S. boys are a bunch of copycat whankers

 

Oh nothing, just crashing at over 255mph!

[JonSzanto]

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