Mozart Or Classique?

[meiers]

This thread is a stroll down memory lane.

[meiers]

The Mozart is a gorgeous and wonderfully built pen. It's metal barrel makes it feel very solid without adding too much weight. All my ink reviews are done with my Mozart due to its impeccable flow and stub-ish B nib. I would only consider it as a "main" or "only" pen for a person with very small hands and/or someone that doesn't write much in a single sit. Its tiny girth is tiresome for me just after 5-6 pages. It is a cartridge-only pen and you will be restricted to use international short cartridges only. There's not much variety of inks on those carts but you can refill them with a syringe if you want to experiment with bottle inks. If you don't want the hassle, intl' carts are relatively cheap, though.

 

 

Some photos from the Mozart review in my blog:

 

http://misplumasfuente.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/montblanc-meisterstc3bcck-114-mozart-5-cac3b1c3b3n-y-seccic3b3n-inclinada.jpg

 

http://misplumasfuente.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/montblanc-meisterstc3bcck-114-mozart-9-detalle-del-plumc3adn.jpg

~custom

This Mozart b nib is working perfectly.

Edited February 7, 2017 by meiers

[Tom Kellie]

~ I have a yellow gold Classique EF and a 90th Anniversary Classique EF.

I also have a platinum Mozart EF.

Despite my hands being fairly large — I'm 191 cm. — all three of them are comfortable for multi-hour use.

The two EF Classiques are primarily used to mark student research or homework assignments.

They also are ideal for jotting marginalia in books.

The EF Mozart is well-suited for writing field notes in situations where fountain pens might not often be used.

As the Mozart's EF nib writes more like an EEF, it's been used for micro-sketches in small spaces in notebooks.

Although I typically write without posting, the Mozart is the one exception. It feels best when posted.

All three pens write very well, without any skipping, smooth ink flow, and clear lines.

They're substantially different from 149 OBBBs, but there are different needs which they meet.

I'd recommend both Classiques and Mozarts, especially if one is able to handle them in advance of purchase, as I did in a Montblanc boutique.

Tom K.

[penparadise]

Whatever you do, NEVER get the Mozart with a Broad nib. Mine hard started and skipped so much, I wanted to break the thing over my knee. I ended up regrinding the nib by myself because those MB guys thought I got a lemon off the 'bay.

 

I don't agree with you, Custom,

 

I have a Mozart for my shirt pocket to take short notes and it has an OB nib which is absolut perfect. It starts at the very first stroke, no dropouts and no skipping at all. It is the perfect nib for my handwriting. So if you have problems with your nib don't blame Montblanc if you chose the wrong nib.

[Pravda]

 

I don't agree with you, Custom,

 

I have a Mozart for my shirt pocket to take short notes and it has an OB nib which is absolut perfect. It starts at the very first stroke, no dropouts and no skipping at all. It is the perfect nib for my handwriting. So if you have problems with your nib don't blame Montblanc if you chose the wrong nib.

I would venture to own my very first Mozart if I can get that Templar converter rumored to fit it. I absolutely hate cartridges

[penparadise]

I would venture to own my very first Mozart if I can get that Templar converter rumored to fit it. I absolutely hate cartridges

 

I also don't like cartridges but I like the Mozart as a shirt-pocket-pen.

Unfortunately every possible converter for a Mozart can't carry enough ink for my purpose and so I use cartridges within the Mozart and carry a spare cartridge in my purse. (Yes it fits and is safe. )

[Inkquest]

As we are approaching the six year mark, which one did the OP get? probably realized that he began craving both, along with a matching rollerball. Then though that adding that Sailor would only be a bit more... and all those inks sitting in various online shopping carts.... suddenly realized the ominous path opening before him, turned tail and ran in a dead sprint for the G2 aisle.

 

Smart move brother, wherever you are.

[Pravda]

As we are approaching the six year mark, which one did the OP get? probably realized that he began craving both, along with a matching rollerball. Then though that adding that Sailor would only be a bit more... and all those inks sitting in various online shopping carts.... suddenly realized the ominous path opening before him, turned tail and ran in a dead sprint for the G2 aisle.

 

Smart move brother, wherever you are.

Just realized that its an ancient thread! Who is the culprit for reviving it?

 

Ah.. Custom.. you are answering a message from 6 years ago as inkquest pointed out

Edited February 8, 2017 by Pravda

[meiers]

This thread is a stroll down memory lane.

[Pravda]

 

This thread is a stroll down memory lane.

 

 

 

Yeah, I thought you meant it reminds you of past pens or decisions.. not literally haha

[CS388]

One of the joys of FPN is that we have an enormous archive, which we can dip into. Although this topic is now 6 years old, the question is still relevant and has prompted current debate. For me, it was worth reviving just to see the pictures of Carlo's BB(?) nib on the Mozart - very nice!

 

I've always thought of the Mozart as far too small for my needs. But, when I actually handled one, I was impressed by it. I realise that it's the same quality as its larger brethren, but maybe it's the diminuitive size which brings it to the fore?

 

I feel the same about my 142. I know it's an illusion, it's the same quality as my other Meisterstuck pens, but the small package seems to enhance its build quality.

 

I, also wonder what the OP chose, in the end? If he/she is still about, maybe they could enlighten us?

[Chrissy]

IMHO the Mozart is a ladies pen for the purse. Not that that makes it a bad pen at all. It's just a miniature pen. I think the 144 Classique was small too. If I was starting from small, I would now start from the 145 or new Classic.

[Inkquest]

I'd much prefer to have the Mozart over the Classique. I can't, at this moment, envision myself actually buying one because I already have a little Boheme retractable, also cartridge only, which would make a perfect pocket pen... er.. that is if I could ever get over my severe case of ImGonnaLoseTheDarnThingaphobia and actually carry a fountain pen, any fountain pen, out of the house.

 

The Mozart is far more interesting to me. I tell you what we need to do... we brainiac (okay, you brainiac) FP users need to design and develop a converter which works flawlessly in these little cart only pens. Something along the lines of Pilot's push converter, without actually infringing upon anyone's patent, would do the trick.. and et voila! We have more money to buy more stuff!

[gerigo]

I have always been fond of pens that are at the opposite ends of the spectrum for size. For me, the pen I find least appealing is the 146, which is right in the middle. Although I have many small pens such as the M300, I only recently picked up a Mozart because of the positive things people have said here. I have been dissuaded from picking one up by my favorite Montblanc sales rep for quite a while. Wouldn't you know it, It has turned out to be a pretty amazing pen. I spent one workshop writing notes down the entire afternoon, and the pen performed flawlessly. It's very unfortunate it's considered a ladies pen because it has all the characteristics of a Meisterstuck and performs wonderfully. I wish Montblanc would do more with the pen.

[Tom Kellie]

It's very unfortunate it's considered a ladies pen because it has all the characteristics of a Meisterstuck and performs wonderfully. I wish Montblanc would do more with the pen.

 

 

~ gerigo:

 

That's how I feel.

I'm a 191 cm older male with fairly large hands who uses 149s for most writing needs.

Yet the platinum Mozart EF I have is a great writer. It's ideal for taking in awkward field expeditions where a fountain pen might not typically be used.

As a note write in cramped field notepads, it's everything that I'd hope for.

As long as the cap is posted, it's comfortable to use.

Certainly it's the most discreet fountain pen I use.

Thank you for your comment.

Tom K.

[lovely]

Hello everyone, I have a hard time deciding which one is better: the Mozart or the Classique? I went over to a Montblanc boutique and I checked their pens out. I first tried out the Le Grand and the 149, but I think they were too bulky. So it came down to the two I mentioned earlier. Which do you think is better? If you have any of the two I'm deciding on, please share your experience with them. Thanks!

Mozart hands down.

[meiers]

IMHO the Mozart is a ladies pen for the purse. Not that that makes it a bad pen at all. It's just a miniature pen. I think the 144 Classique was small too. If I was starting from small, I would now start from the 145 or new Classic.

Mozart was a boy.

[888007888]

I'm thinking of buying the Mozart jewellry solitaire FP at my boutique as I love the cross stitch design on the platinum cap and barrel. I am also a huge fan of the Mother of Pearl stars now. If purchased, I will be adding it to my rotation of pens. It's a unique pen that I don't see often and I'm a fan of special pens.

[asegier]

It's really personal preference in my opinion, what suits you tastes and needs best both aesthetically and practically. I have the 145 Classique and my brother has the 144. I've tested the Mozart as well, and I love all 3. The only thing for me is that I don't really like cartridges, so that was a bit of a deal breaker. But I think if I was travelling, I'd probably like to take the Mozart with me with some cartridges!

And yeah, it's an old thread. Made me quite amused

[pajaro]

Buy used and get both.

 

Fred

+1. This is the best idea.