Kaweco Sport V16N Nib Size & Pre Sample Pens

[cecilchow]

Hi all,

 

I am interest to buy a V16 pen, but when I am looking MARTIN auction, the V16 comes in various nib sizes, could I ask how wide or narrow is an OF nib, OBB nib, BB nib, KF nib and OF nib? Does anyone own a V16 pen? Is it relatively longer than a Sports Classic pen?

 

I also come across some pre sample pens. Does pre sample pens mean it is a sample pen but for some reason it is not put into mass production? So pre sample pens do no bear the brand?

 

Sorry if it is a silly question.

 

http://www.martiniauctions.com/auction/browse.php/id=134?PAGE=1&id=134

[cecilchow]

And what does OB means for a Lamy nib? Thanks in advance for answering.

[cecilchow]

Okay i figured it out myself...

 

Available nib grades: rounded, medium (MK) / extra fine (EF) / fine (F) / medium (M) / broad ( / extra broad (BB) / oblique, medium (OM) / oblique, broad (OB) / oblique, extra broad (OBB).

 

But could I ask does oblique means italic?

[JLML]

But could I ask does oblique means italic?

No, see the text @ www.richardspens.com:

A nib shape that is ground so that the writing tip contacts the paper properly when the pen is rotated in the user’s hand. Obliques are made in left- and right-foot shapes, and there are variations in the angle at which the tip is finished. The left-foot oblique (shown here, and so named because the angled tip resembles the shape of a person’s left foot) is the most common style. A left-foot oblique requires counterclockwise rotation of the pen so that the nib, instead of facing straight upward, is leaning toward a right-handed writer or away from a left-handed writer. Most modern obliques are ordinary round nibs, not designed to produce line variation (illustrated near right). An oblique italic nib, which is designed to produce line variation, has a wide thin tip cut at an angle across, to create broad strokes in one direction (at a slight angle to the nib itself) and very thin strokes in the orthogonal direction. A crisp oblique italic nib (illustrated far right) is relatively lacking in smoothness but produces greater line variation than a cursive oblique italic, which is ground to be relatively smooth in use. [Historical note] The history of oblique nibs goes back millennia; in Roman times, when hand-cut reeds were used to make nibs, all nibs were italic to a greater or lesser degree. As writing styles changed, scribes discovered that cutting a nib with the edge at an angle, instead of straight across, changed the orientations of thick and thin strokes, allowing the development of further new styles. Blackletter styles, notably, were customarily written with oblique italics. Because of this usage, over a period of centuries the term “oblique” became synonymous with the production of line variation; but, as explained here, that association is neither the only possible one nor even necessarily the correct one.

[cecilchow]

Alright... so basically oblique means line variation. Generally speaking is oblique nibs used mainly for calligraphy?

[Malcy]

The V16 nib is similar to the one in my Kaweco V4. It has an OB nib fitted, here is a writing sample:

 

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g114/Luminarium/Posted%20images/KV4_text_1.jpg

 

The review is here

 

p.s. it is an extremely smooth writer and holds a ton of ink.

[cecilchow]

Hi Malcy,

 

Thanks for your review! 8 pounds for that pen, what a deal, 8 pounds well spent!

[JLML]

I would not get a O nib if I am looking for line variation, I will get an Oblique nib if I am not able to place correctly the nib on the paper, I will select the Left or Right oblique by observing my "mistake" with the nib.

I will select other nibs if I am looking for line variation. Line variation can be achieved by different means:

By a function of pressure: you get this by using a flexible nib

By a function of the path of generated by the nib: you get this one by for example a Italic nib (bold in vertical and fine in horizontal)

By a function of the angle between the pen and the paper: for example a Zoom nib, and others

Cheers