Mb 145 Question

[kandarp]

I just received my 145 in the mail and it feel a bit off.

 

The Good

a) The inside of the clip says Pix.

The Meisterstück looks correct and pretty close to my store bought 144

c) The nibs looks authentic (although a little scratchy)

 

The Bad

a) The converter it came with was fake.

The box and the pen did't match (Box said M nib, pen says F nib)

c) The seller vanished when I asked him for more info!

 

Can anyone tell me if its the real deal?

 

 

(Sorry the pics are a little hazy)

[kandarp]

Sorry this wont let me post all the pics

 

a) Clip (it says Pix) - http://i56.tinypic.com/29d7i89.jpg

Cap - http://i56.tinypic.com/fn70v9.jpg

c) Nib (a) - http://i51.tinypic.com/r71353.jpg

d) Nib ( - http://i52.tinypic.com/1zztaip.jpg

e) Feeb ( - http://i52.tinypic.com/2uylkpi.jpg

[penparadise]

Why do you think the converter is a fake? Do you have a pic?

[kandarp]

Why do you think the converter is a fake? Do you have a pic?

 

 

I cant post pics, but the Star and Name (Montblanc) were printed and not etched on the converter.

[johnkim424]

Fake converter is not a big deal. They are relatively cheap are readily available. Feed looks kind of fishy, I have never seen that kind of MB feed design but I can be wrong. If you want to verify authenticity of your MB, shine a strong light on the cap. If you see a red tint through the resin, than you pen is real, if not it's fake.

[kcunvong]

Looks legit to me.

[mdbrown]

Looks legit to me.

 

I agree, the nib is a Montblanc nib and so is the cap. Looks like the real deal to me too...

[kandarp]

Fake converter is not a big deal. They are relatively cheap are readily available. Feed looks kind of fishy, I have never seen that kind of MB feed design but I can be wrong. If you want to verify authenticity of your MB, shine a strong light on the cap. If you see a red tint through the resin, than you pen is real, if not it's fake.

 

 

Feed threw me off too! I'll look for a flashlight!

 

Okay it look pretty reddish to me (almost a faint purple). Does that feed look legit to anyone/

Edited March 26, 2011 by kandarp

[jar]

Fake converter is not a big deal. They are relatively cheap are readily available. Feed looks kind of fishy, I have never seen that kind of MB feed design but I can be wrong. If you want to verify authenticity of your MB, shine a strong light on the cap. If you see a red tint through the resin, than you pen is real, if not it's fake.

 

 

Feed threw me off too! I'll look for a flashlight!

 

Okay it look pretty reddish to me (almost a faint purple). Does that feed look legit to anyone/

 

The slight red tint is always good, if it's not there then you really can be pretty sure it's a fake. BUT, many fakes also know about that and so use plastics that glow ruby.

[kandarp]

Fake converter is not a big deal. They are relatively cheap are readily available. Feed looks kind of fishy, I have never seen that kind of MB feed design but I can be wrong. If you want to verify authenticity of your MB, shine a strong light on the cap. If you see a red tint through the resin, than you pen is real, if not it's fake.

 

 

Feed threw me off too! I'll look for a flashlight!

 

Okay it look pretty reddish to me (almost a faint purple). Does that feed look legit to anyone/

 

The slight red tint is always good, if it's not there then you really can be pretty sure it's a fake. BUT, many fakes also know about that and so use plastics that glow ruby.

 

I think it pretty much boils down to the feed and whether the seller resurfaces or not.

 

How much does MB charge to authenticate a pen?

[mlr8]

There are 4 converters in the market, see photos below

 

A is the current Mont Blanc Converter for 144 & 145, it is screw-in type

 

B is the predecessor model to A, it is screw-in type

 

C is not MB converter, it is from another fountain pen brand, it is push-in type

 

D is a FAKE one

 

I have done some tests, here are my findings:

 

1. A, B and C can be fitted perfectly to both Authentic MB 144 & 145

2. C can also be used for MB Starwalker

3. A & B do not fit into FAKE MB 144 & 145

4. D does not fit in Authentic MB 144 & 145

5. Fake 144 & 145 can use C

 

Result

 

If the pen can use A, B & C, the pen is Authentic

 

If the pen can use D, this is a FAKE MB pen

 

Authentic Starwalker can only use C

 

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[mlr8]

There are 4 converters in the market, see photos below

 

A is the current Mont Blanc Converter for 144 & 145, it is screw-in type

 

B is the predecessor model to A, it is screw-in type

 

C is not MB converter, it is from another fountain pen brand, it is push-in type

 

D is a FAKE one

 

I have done some tests, here are my findings:

 

1. A, B and C can be fitted perfectly to both Authentic MB 144 & 145

2. C can also be used for MB Starwalker

3. A & B do not fit into FAKE MB 144 & 145

4. D does not fit in Authentic MB 144 & 145

5. Fake 144 & 145 can use C

 

Result

 

If the pen can use A, B & C, the pen is Authentic

 

If the pen can use D, this is a FAKE MB pen

 

Authentic Starwalker can only use C

 

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[kandarp]

There are 4 converters in the market, see photos below

 

A is the current Mont Blanc Converter for 144 & 145, it is screw-in type

 

B is the predecessor model to A, it is screw-in type

 

C is not MB converter, it is from another fountain pen brand, it is push-in type

 

D is a FAKE one

 

I have done some tests, here are my findings:

 

1. A, B and C can be fitted perfectly to both Authentic MB 144 & 145

2. C can also be used for MB Starwalker

3. A & B do not fit into FAKE MB 144 & 145

4. D does not fit in Authentic MB 144 & 145

5. Fake 144 & 145 can use C

 

Result

 

If the pen can use A, B & C, the pen is Authentic

 

If the pen can use D, this is a FAKE MB pen

 

Authentic Starwalker can only use C

 

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Thanks for the help. Here is what I found, I have A & C type of convertors.

 

Real MB 144 (Store Bought) C fits, A its perfectly snug, also can screw it all the way in

Fake MB 144 (Picked up for 20 bucks, its a cheap fake) A does not fit, C fits

MB 145 in question, C fits, but feels a bit out of place, too springy in my opinion. A fits but can not be screwed in.

Could it be that the person replaced the nib section with a fake but gave me the body of a real 145?

Edited March 26, 2011 by kandarp

[hari317]

I think your pen is fake. i base this on the feed photos and the way the tipping is attached to the nib in your original post. i have not opened the tinyurl images. I have come across some excellent fakes that can fool/atleast confuse the buyer, I have documented one here: link

[kandarp]

I think your pen is fake. i base this on the feed photos and the way the tipping is attached to the nib in your original post. i have not opened the tinyurl images. I have come across some excellent fakes that can fool/atleast confuse the buyer, I have documented one here: link

 

 

Thanks Hari, very informative post! I'm actually quite surprised at the quality of this pen. If the feed had been close of my existing MB then I would not even have questioned the other anomalies (i.e. Sure he could have mixed up the boxes and sent me the wrong box, sure he could have lost/broken the original feed and picked up a knock off)

 

I mailed the seller a few days ago, got no response. I'm going to open a case with eBay and see what happens.

[hari317]

There are a large number of Fake Chopins of excellent copy floating around... One way to spot a fake, if you have it at hand, is to look at the "feeder case". It is of poor quality in the knock offs and excellent in the original item. Other is the marvellous way MB welds its tip to the nib. No faker can match that. if they can, then they can probably make a good living making their own nibs...

 

BTW, what is the clip serial number on your pen?

[kandarp]

There are a large number of Fake Chopins of excellent copy floating around... One way to spot a fake, if you have it at hand, is to look at the "feeder case". It is of poor quality in the knock offs and excellent in the original item. Other is the marvellous way MB welds its tip to the nib. No faker can match that. if they can, then they can probably make a good living making their own nibs...

 

BTW, what is the clip serial number on your pen?

 

 

EN1323305, Is there a place to check this?

[hari317]

BTW, what is the clip serial number on your pen?

EN1323305, Is there a place to check this?

 

It is a confirmed fake then. I am sorry. Check here: link

Edited March 26, 2011 by hari317

[mlr8]

There are 4 converters in the market, see photos below

 

A is the current Mont Blanc Converter for 144 & 145, it is screw-in type

 

B is the predecessor model to A, it is screw-in type

 

C is not MB converter, it is from another fountain pen brand, it is push-in type

 

D is a FAKE one

 

I have done some tests, here are my findings:

 

1. A, B and C can be fitted perfectly to both Authentic MB 144 & 145

2. C can also be used for MB Starwalker

3. A & B do not fit into FAKE MB 144 & 145

4. D does not fit in Authentic MB 144 & 145

5. Fake 144 & 145 can use C

 

Result

 

If the pen can use A, B & C, the pen is Authentic

 

If the pen can use D, this is a FAKE MB pen

 

Authentic Starwalker can only use C

 

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Thanks for the help. Here is what I found, I have A & C type of convertors.

 

Real MB 144 (Store Bought) C fits, A its perfectly snug, also can screw it all the way in

Fake MB 144 (Picked up for 20 bucks, its a cheap fake) A does not fit, C fits

MB 145 in question, C fits, but feels a bit out of place, too springy in my opinion. A fits but can not be screwed in.

Could it be that the person replaced the nib section with a fake but gave me the body of a real 145?

I think the pen is fake. I have latest FAKE 144/145 FP,BP and RB, I paid $30 each. I have to say they are "very good" fake pen. Except for the converter, it is very hard to tell the difference if I do not compare with the real pen carefully. I did find some faked 144/145 on eBay recently. Be very carefully if you are going to buy any new MB 144/145 from eBay.

[kandarp]

BTW, what is the clip serial number on your pen?

EN1323305, Is there a place to check this?

 

It is a confirmed fake then. I am sorry. Check here: link

 

Ouch . Thanks Hari.