Vintage Montblanc Key Ring Giveaway

[Lolx]

Hi Guys

 

I got this old Montblanc Keyring with a black suede Montblanc Pouch, it has the large Montblanc snowcap on each side in a kind of off-white (vintage patina ).

 

Anyone want it?

 

The first Member to post:

A. a photo of their vintage Montblanc; and

B. name the year Montblanc first adopted the 'snowcap' as their trademark symbol-

will win it.

 

Airmail postage world wide.

 

If I've broken any forum rules in doing this I'm sorry, please delete it.

[tanalasta]

Here we go... a 1960's MB 149 purchased from Eric N...

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/Tanalasta/MB149_1960s1.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/Tanalasta/MB_14960snib.jpg

 

Was the year 1913 for the snowflake question?

 

From Wikipedia " trademark identified with Montblanc is the white stylised six-pointed star with rounded edges, representative of the Mont Blanc snowcap from above, the symbol being adopted in 1913. The number "4810," the mountain's height in metres, is also a commonly recurring theme."

Edited January 21, 2011 by tanalasta

[Lolx]

O.K. tanalasta you win : :clap1:

 

Send me a message with your postal details and I'll get this sent to you on Monday.

 

Sorry guys you snooze you lose

[Lolx]

If your 149 was from the 1960's shouldn't it really have a 14K nib :hmm1:

 

Hold on we might have a technical default here

[penparadise]

If your 149 was from the 1960's shouldn't it really have a 14K nib :hmm1:

 

Hold on we might have a technical default here

 

:hmm1:

The second default could be: Is a pen from 1960 vintage?

A vintage pen should have been produced before WW2 or at least has to be more than 50 years old. What do you think?

[tanalasta]

Well we can ask Eric Niksch who sold me the pen. He tells me it was a 1960's model with tri color 18c nib. The dating chart on the forum does have the tri color 18c in this era and I think Eric is well known enough on FPN that I'd take his word for it.

 

Montblanc (last I wrote to them re a pen repair) classes pens made from 1908 all the way to 1980 as antiques.

 

I'm in this for the fun of it so will let the OP judge.

Edited January 21, 2011 by tanalasta

[sunnerd]

Geez I miss this again!

In case of default, which probably won't happen...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4137/4914957501_513c6773f1_z.jpg

 

as for the snowcap question, 1913.

Edited January 21, 2011 by sunnerd

[penparadise]

I started this as a humorous input. I don't deny your win, tanalasta!

 

As far as I remember there was a member of this board who once said: "a pen has to be older than me to be called vintage." Which can match everyone's personal and subjective view and suits a twen as well as a senior citizen.

 

But calling an item made before 1980 "antique" sounds ridiculous and out in left field. Antiques in general knowledge (at least in Europe) have to be older than 100 years.

 

Take an example from real life: A senior citizen might be called an oldtimer or a vintage person but calling a human in it's early 30s an antique person might get you some trouble.

Edited January 21, 2011 by penparadise

[tanalasta]

Well I'll 'fess up and say I was born after the 1960's which means I'm either a spring chicken or my pen is older than me! And many thanks for the original poster for the generous competition.

Now, Sunnerd definitely has the nicer pen but I can think of at least one set of keys where this key-ring could be put to good use

 

All in all, very good fun ...

 

Actually Sunnerd has many nicer pens than me!!!

 

As for the definition of anitque, it's just what MontBlanc customer service quoted to an enquiry I sent them a while back.

 

Many thanks for your enquiry. As a matter of course Montblanc products

produced between 1908 - 1980 are classified as antiques and as such can

only be restored at our factory in Hamburg, Germany. The cost and success

of such restorations is varied and can only be assessed by our team of

restorers.

 

That said we are happy to send your Montblanc writing instrument to the

factory for assessment. The minimum cost to do so would be $125.00 to

cover the express courier fee to Germany. In the event that you accept the

proposed cost to repair then this fee would be absorbed into the total

cost. Obviously if you decline then the minimum fee would once again apply.

 

As with all handcrafted items of age, there are some considerations to be

made. Repairing items of this type can be precarious at best. Due to their

age and condition, repairs of this nature are subject to many variables.

It is possible that after closer inspection the technician may determine

that the product is not suitable for repair and may well be damaged in the

process. In cases such as this the product will be returned unrepaired and

in the condition it was received. Although every care and precaution is

taken, it is also possible that the writing instrument may be rendered

unusable due to unforseen internal damage. These unavoidable situations

are rare but certainly possible.

 

Of course we will give you as much detail as possible, so that you are

able to make well informed decision. If you wish to proceed with the

assessment, please contact one of our many boutiques on

1 300 36 4810. This service will connect you with the closest outlet to

your location. At this point they will be able to facilitate the repair as

your instruction. Alternatively you may send your product directly to the

service centre at PO Box 508, Flagstaff Hill, SA 5159.

 

We are looking forward to being of service and would like to thank you for

choosing Montblanc.

 

Sincerely,

Randall Foote

 

Customer Service Montblanc

 

LMDM Pty Ltd, Australia

Tel : 61 8 8270 4800

Fax : 61 8 8270 4820

[penparadise]

 

Many thanks for your enquiry. As a matter of course Montblanc products

produced between 1908 - 1980 are classified as antiques and as such can

only be restored at our factory in Hamburg, Germany. The cost and success

of such restorations is varied and can only be assessed by our team of

restorers.

 

That said we are happy to send your Montblanc writing instrument to the

factory for assessment. The minimum cost to do so would be $125.00 to

cover the express courier fee to Germany. In the event that you accept the

proposed cost to repair then this fee would be absorbed into the total

cost. Obviously if you decline then the minimum fee would once again apply.

 

As with all handcrafted items of age, there are some considerations to be

made. Repairing items of this type can be precarious at best. Due to their

age and condition, repairs of this nature are subject to many variables.

It is possible that after closer inspection the technician may determine

that the product is not suitable for repair and may well be damaged in the

process. In cases such as this the product will be returned unrepaired and

in the condition it was received. Although every care and precaution is

taken, it is also possible that the writing instrument may be rendered

unusable due to unforseen internal damage. These unavoidable situations

are rare but certainly possible.

 

Of course we will give you as much detail as possible, so that you are

able to make well informed decision. If you wish to proceed with the

assessment, please contact one of our many boutiques on

1 300 36 4810. This service will connect you with the closest outlet to

your location. At this point they will be able to facilitate the repair as

your instruction. Alternatively you may send your product directly to the

service centre at PO Box 508, Flagstaff Hill, SA 5159.

 

We are looking forward to being of service and would like to thank you for

choosing Montblanc.

 

Sincerely,

Randall Foote

 

Customer Service Montblanc

 

LMDM Pty Ltd, Australia

Tel : 61 8 8270 4800

Fax : 61 8 8270 4820

 

 

In other words, they don't promise anything but charge you 125 Bucks.

:hmm1:

I think I would ask one of the well known pen experts to fix my pen.

[jar]

I started this as a humorous input. I don't deny your win, tanalasta!

 

As far as I remember there was a member of this board who once said: "a pen has to be older than me to be called vintage." Which can match everyone's personal and subjective view and suits a twen as well as a senior citizen.

 

But calling an item made before 1980 "antique" sounds ridiculous and out in left field. Antiques in general knowledge (at least in Europe) have to be older than 100 years.

 

Take an example from real life: A senior citizen might be called an oldtimer or a vintage person but calling a human in it's early 30s an antique person might get you some trouble.

 

To tie that "what is Vintage" question down let's settle on pens made before the start of the Casblanca Conference.

[sunnerd]

Well I'll 'fess up and say I was born after the 1960's which means I'm either a spring chicken or my pen is older than me! And many thanks for the original poster for the generous competition.

Now, Sunnerd definitely has the nicer pen but I can think of at least one set of keys where this key-ring could be put to good use

 

All in all, very good fun ...

 

Actually Sunnerd has many nicer pens than me!!!

 

 

Hey tanalasta I'm in no doubt that 149 of yours is made in the 1960s and thus "vintage", so definitely you should be claiming it.

It's just for fun, I just wonder where the OP found these keyrings... I certainly don't see them in our local Sunday markets :roflmho:

[Lolx]

Yep, tanalaster is the winner here. I'll put the keyring in the mail for you on Monday

 

I just mistakenly thought that perhaps your 149 had a nib change, as I understood all 149 nibs before the 1980's were 14C or 14K. Obviously that isn't correct.

 

Anyway, I still would have given you the keyring even with a nib replacement as I can tell from the barrel it is vintage.

:clap1:

[niksch]

If your 149 was from the 1960's shouldn't it really have a 14K nib

 

Since the pen in question is an 18C nib, what is your point?

 

I have fully original...with purchase receipts...149 pens with 14C nibs. What is your reference that these pens would not have had 14C nibs?

 

Congrats Kevin, although I agree with Axel that I'm not convinced this is a vintage pen!

[niksch]

[A vintage pen should have been produced before WW2 or at least has to be more than 50 years old. What do you think?

 

That, my friend, is a question of much debate. For my purposes, I usually use the 1959/60 year as the dividing line.

[niksch]

Well we can ask Eric Niksch who sold me the pen. He tells me it was a 1960's model with tri color 18c nib. The dating chart on the forum does have the tri color 18c in this era and I think Eric is well known enough on FPN that I'd take his word for it.

 

IIRC, this pen was mid-late 60s given the feed style, one-piece body style and other characteristics on the cap.