Pelikan Edelstein Topaz

[SUNIL GARG]

Edelstein Topaz happens to be my favourite Blue Ink.

I used to be a fan of Sheaffer Turquoise, I still like it,

but Topaz has simply taken over.

PR DC Supershow Blue, in comparison is a different kettle

of fish, way too dark, of course still blue. I just love

Sailor Yama Dori for a dark-dark blue, just superb!

I recently got Pilot Iroshizuku Kon-Peki. This shade

falls between Edel Topaz & Sheaffer Turquoise but in my

opinion flows much better than Topaz. Much better than

even much dilute Sheaffer.

[Amberjack]

Marvelous review!

Thanks for the time and effort you clearly put in.

I have a sample of PET on its way from Goulet at this moment.

 

RE: blue topaz, there certainly are blue varieties of this gemstone.

In fact, it's the state gemstone of Texas and can be found in a few places in the Mason-Llano region in the center of the state. Beautiful pale blue in color, and not too far from PET.

 

AJ

[Frank C]

Thanks for the review. I have been using this for some time in my Blue O' Blue with an italic broad nib--a nice combination. I always look for your recommendation for billets doux, but didn't find one for this ink. Would it just be too gauche?

[Sandy1]

Edelstein Topaz happens to be my favourite Blue Ink.

I used to be a fan of Sheaffer Turquoise, I still like it,

but Topaz has simply taken over.

PR DC Supershow Blue, in comparison is a different kettle

of fish, way too dark, of course still blue. I just love

Sailor Yama Dori for a dark-dark blue, just superb!

I recently got Pilot Iroshizuku Kon-Peki. This shade

falls between Edel Topaz & Sheaffer Turquoise but in my

opinion flows much better than Topaz. Much better than

even much dilute Sheaffer.

Hi,

 

I think you have made astute observations about each of those inks, all of which come into play when choosing an ink for a given reason or whim. Yet those very differences give some idea why I find it so difficult to name favourites.

 

We are indeed spoiled by the luxury of having so many fine choices.

 

Bye,

S1

[Sandy1]

Marvelous review!

Thanks for the time and effort you clearly put in.

I have a sample of PET on its way from Goulet at this moment.

 

RE: blue topaz, there certainly are blue varieties of this gemstone.

In fact, it's the state gemstone of Texas and can be found in a few places in the Mason-Llano region in the center of the state. Beautiful pale blue in color, and not too far from PET.

 

AJ

Hi AJ,

 

You're welcome!

 

Thanks for sharing your knowledge about the gemstone.

 

I certainly hope that you enjoy the ink when it arrives, and look forward to hearing of your experience with this ink.

 

Bye,

S1

[Sandy1]

Thanks for the review. I have been using this for some time in my Blue O' Blue with an italic broad nib--a nice combination. I always look for your recommendation for billets doux, but didn't find one for this ink. Would it just be too gauche?

Hi,

 

You're welcome!

 

Thanks for naming the pen+nib combo that you enjoy using with PET.

 

This Review was posted a few years ago, so perhaps 'Billets Doux' was not yet included in my template. But since you are curious: I find that inks in this colour range are very friendly & convivial, and may well brighten the day of loved ones, but not quite to the extent of billets doux.

(I found it interesting that Montblanc chose Turquoise for their 'Ink of Friendship'.)

 

Bye,

S1

[JonDoh]

Great review, very thorough. Thank you. I have this ink and have discovered, as your writing samples show, that the ink can be very light depending on the pen used. I prefer Private Reserve Tropical Blue, which is similar in color and can write darker in some pens, but not lighter.

[Scrawler]

spiv filled my Noodler's Creaper with a sample of PET which I have been using for a variety of things on a variety of paper. My first observation is that with the Creaper nib I am getting a broader range of shading than the samples here show and because of the wet nib it tends to average darker than these samples. I used it to write on the back of a cheque and the show through was significant. However I put that down to the quality of the paper and the wetness of my nib, not the ink itself. I could easily use this as an everyday 'goto' ink because most people would just think I was writing in blue and would not be looking for the subtly of hue that I do. But then, I have managed to convince people that Treveste Turquoise was actually blue.

[Bhavna]

Sandy, thank you for another gorgeous review. I haven't tried this colour but am interested in the comparison with Diamine's Kensington blue - they look very close. I love the bottles but agree that the 4001 series were superior in functionality.

[Sandy1]

Great review, very thorough. Thank you. I have this ink and have discovered, as your writing samples show, that the ink can be very light depending on the pen used. I prefer Private Reserve Tropical Blue, which is similar in color and can write darker in some pens, but not lighter.

Hi,

 

You're welcome!

 

I'm happy to read that your experience with PET is consistent with the Written Samples, even though I'd be very glad to see aspects of this ink that are beyond those samples.

 

I've used PRTBl a bit. (It is included in the comparison swabs.) I find that ink to be somewhat similar in character to the PR American Blue. It has a fairly high dye-load per unit volume, so is not terribly responsive to changes of pen. However, that ink withstands dilution with [distilled] water to about 60%, which gives a lighter tone with little trade-off. (See PRABl Dilution LINK)

 

Bye,

S1

[goldenkrishna]

Hello Sandy1,

 

Thanks for this elaborate review and your pragmatic thoughts. I love it.

Yet, I'll still have to start writing so I have no experience with inks yet. But it will start soon.

 

With love,

 

goldenkrishna

[Sandy1]

spiv filled my Noodler's Creaper with a sample of PET which I have been using for a variety of things on a variety of paper. My first observation is that with the Creaper nib I am getting a broader range of shading than the samples here show and because of the wet nib it tends to average darker than these samples. I used it to write on the back of a cheque and the show through was significant. However I put that down to the quality of the paper and the wetness of my nib, not the ink itself. I could easily use this as an everyday 'goto' ink because most people would just think I was writing in blue and would not be looking for the subtly of hue that I do. But then, I have managed to convince people that Treveste Turquoise was actually blue.

Hi,

 

Thanks for sharing your experience with PET in the Creaper.

 

Being a fan of shading, I'm glad that even such a simple pen+nib delivered a "broader range of shading". I always like to know about the results from a pen that costs about half as much as the bottle of ink.

(Here's a video from Member antoniosz that shows a Creaper in action: LINK)

 

I'm glad that you consider PET suitable as an everyday ink - perhaps it will off-set all those who constantly use Blue-Black inks.

 

Bye,

S1

[Scrawler]

spiv filled my Noodler's Creaper with a sample of PET which I have been using for a variety of things on a variety of paper. My first observation is that with the Creaper nib I am getting a broader range of shading than the samples here show and because of the wet nib it tends to average darker than these samples. I used it to write on the back of a cheque and the show through was significant. However I put that down to the quality of the paper and the wetness of my nib, not the ink itself. I could easily use this as an everyday 'goto' ink because most people would just think I was writing in blue and would not be looking for the subtly of hue that I do. But then, I have managed to convince people that Treveste Turquoise was actually blue.

Hi,

 

Thanks for sharing your experience with PET in the Creaper.

 

Being a fan of shading, I'm glad that even such a simple pen+nib delivered a "broader range of shading". I always like to know about the results from a pen that costs about half as much as the bottle of ink.

(Here's a video from Member antoniosz that shows a Creaper in action: LINK)

 

I'm glad that you consider PET suitable as an everyday ink - perhaps it will off-set all those who constantly use Blue-Black inks.

 

Bye,

S1

This is the thing, I have gotten sick of blue/black after being obliged to use it at school, then overloading myself with it, because I believed that blue/black had dignity. I now try to convince people that dusky purple (Vourhout Violet, PdL etc) are actually black and suitable for business use, and that turquoises and teals are actually blue.

[Sandy1]

Sandy, thank you for another gorgeous review. I haven't tried this colour but am interested in the comparison with Diamine's Kensington blue - they look very close. I love the bottles but agree that the 4001 series were superior in functionality.

Hi,

 

You're welcome!

 

I agree that DKBl as depicted on the scanned image is very close to PET. Looking afresh at the ink on paper original swabs, they are still very close! I perceive that DKBl is of lower chroma (intensity) than PET, and leans more toward Green. Unfortunately DKBl remains amongst those inks that I do not plan to review in the near future, so a full-on comparison to PET seems some time away. (It seems I also need to refresh the images in this Review to enable comparison.)

 

Yes, well, the bottle: I have no idea how that happened - IMHO the essentials of industrial & graphic design are lacking.

 

Bye,

S1

[Sandy1]

Hello Sandy1,

 

Thanks for this elaborate review and your pragmatic thoughts. I love it.

Yet, I'll still have to start writing so I have no experience with inks yet. But it will start soon.

 

With love,

 

goldenkrishna

Hi,

 

You're welcome!

 

Many thanks for your kind thoughts.

 

Yes, please do start writing - how else to enjoy its pleasures? At times I'll take a moment to see what a certain of ink+pen+paper might look like, but when I stop, I've written a letter!

 

Bye,

S1

[Sandy1]

Hi,

 

As this post is active, and I had the scanner running, I've taken the opportunity to add images of the Written Samples using my current imaging method: All the better to enjoy the inky goodness!

 

Bye,

S1

 

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Figure A.

Paper: HPJ1124.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN_2012/Ink%20Review%20-%20Pelikan%20Edelstein%20Topaz%20-%20ReScan/INK809_zpsdab315f6.jpg

 

Figure B.

Paper Rhodia.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN_2012/Ink%20Review%20-%20Pelikan%20Edelstein%20Topaz%20-%20ReScan/INK810_zpsd30ef62f.jpg

 

Figure C.

Paper: G Lalo.

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN_2012/Ink%20Review%20-%20Pelikan%20Edelstein%20Topaz%20-%20ReScan/INK811_zpsf5ce6fdd.jpg

 

Figure D.

Paper: Royal

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy116/Sandy1-1/FPN_2012/Ink%20Review%20-%20Pelikan%20Edelstein%20Topaz%20-%20ReScan/INK812_zpsc09d4ec0.jpg

 

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Imaging:

• An Epson V600 scanner was used with the bundled Epson s/w at factory default settings to produce low-loss jpg files.
• Figures shown were scanned at 200 dpi & 24 bit colour.
• No post-capture manipulation of scanner output was done, other than dumb-down by Epson, Photobouquet, IP.Board s/w, and the viewing gear.

[tenurepro]

Fantastic review ...

Love this ink - do you notice the little 'halo' around letters - very cool effect. Here is how it looks like in my pens. Love how it shades with a flexy nib

[Sandy1]

Fantastic review ...

Love this ink - do you notice the little 'halo' around letters - very cool effect. Here is how it looks like in my pens. Love how it shades with a flexy nib

 

. . . ✄

 

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for your kind words!

 

Thanks also for contributing even more samples to this thread, especially with such a fair hand and from flexible nibs.

(Those aspects are only too obviously absent from my atrocious samples.)

 

I haven't noticed "the little 'halo' around the letters". Even when I looked afresh at my ink-on-paper samples, I couldn't see a 'halo' - the line edge was crisp without artefacts.

 

I wonder if the halo is generated only when a flexi nib is used? Or on a given [type of] paper? :hmm1:

 

Bye,

S1

Edited December 2, 2012 by Sandy1

[tenurepro]

Thanks Sandy for the 'fair hand' compliment - my hand writing is usually awful!!! (but nothing like having nice fountain pens to make you want to change bad writing habits).

 

Here are some pictures of the halo; It comes up as a distinct magenta boarder around the letters on a sample of this tamoe river paper i got from a fellow Toronto FPNer

 

On Rhodia, the halo is less pronounced but still shows up mostly as a darkish boarder around some of the letters (see aSSocIAteD WitH < caps letter show this effect), but i can also see some magenta (e.g iS on the first line), but less so than the Tamoe River paper.

 

 

I have only seen this 'halo' on tamoe river and rhodia (but i haven't tried other high quality paper) but not on copy paper; even then, i only see it with very broad of flexible (and very wet) nibs. Perhaps the ink has a tendency to pool at the letter edges on ink-resistant papers and the local high concentration of inks results in this halo property.

 

(photos take with an iPhone, then white balanced in photoshop)

Edited December 4, 2012 by tenurepro

[JonDoh]

Great review, very thorough. Thank you. I have this ink and have discovered, as your writing samples show, that the ink can be very light depending on the pen used. I prefer Private Reserve Tropical Blue, which is similar in color and can write darker in some pens, but not lighter.

Hi,

 

You're welcome!

 

I'm happy to read that your experience with PET is consistent with the Written Samples, even though I'd be very glad to see aspects of this ink that are beyond those samples.

 

I've used PRTBl a bit. (It is included in the comparison swabs.) I find that ink to be somewhat similar in character to the PR American Blue. It has a fairly high dye-load per unit volume, so is not terribly responsive to changes of pen. However, that ink withstands dilution with [distilled] water to about 60%, which gives a lighter tone with little trade-off. (See PRABl Dilution LINK)

 

Bye,

S1

 

 

I still like the PET. Beautiful bottle. I'm using it today in my Sailor Pro.