CANADA or U.S.A. ?

[Mastromaximo]

Dear friends, first of all forgive my bad English :embarrassed_smile:

I bought a beautiful fountain pen Sheaffer " Jade Green " - 1925 -she is beautiful and very well written!

But one thing I do not understand: is an engraving on the nib that says "Lifetime CANADA" and not Made in USA.

I ask if this is normal … The original Sheaffer fountain pens were also produced in Canada?

There is a difference in quality?

On the web I found no information …Who helps me understand?

Thanks!!

[jar]

IIRC Sheaffer opened their Canadian plant in 1927 so it is very likely that your pen was made there. I've never found a quality difference between the US, Canadian, UK or Australian pens although they do create confusion for us collectors. Many of the characteristics folk use to date pens were adopted or discontinued at different times in each market.

 

Is yours a Jade Green Flat Top?

[ruud2904]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

[Mastromaximo]

IIRC Sheaffer opened their Canadian plant in 1927 so it is very likely that your pen was made there. I've never found a quality difference between the US, Canadian, UK or Australian pens although they do create confusion for us collectors. Many of the characteristics folk use to date pens were adopted or discontinued at different times in each market.

 

Is yours a Jade Green Flat Top?

 

I thank you dearly for your kind response Jar!

Yes, my fountain pen is a Jade Green Flat Top and are very pleased to have purchased!! :clap1:

I wish you a happy new year !!

[Mastromaximo]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

 

No, dear Ruud, there is nothing written on the barrel . I presume that the 1925 :embarrassed_smile:

[jar]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

 

No, dear Ruud, there is nothing written on the barrel . I presume that the 1925 :embarrassed_smile:

 

 

Well, since the Canadian plant opened in 1927, we can probably date the pen after that. Next, take a look at this article and see if there are other characteristics that might help.

 

You have a great pen. The Sheaffer Senior Flat Top is a favorite of mine.

[Roger W.]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

 

No, dear Ruud, there is nothing written on the barrel . I presume that the 1925 :embarrassed_smile:

 

 

Well, since the Canadian plant opened in 1927, we can probably date the pen after that. Next, take a look at this article and see if there are other characteristics that might help.

 

You have a great pen. The Sheaffer Senior Flat Top is a favorite of mine.

 

JAR;

 

Not one of the better articles to qoute due to vagueness on the imprints and the hump clip being 1925 on pens is just dead wrong. The hump clip is around 1930/31 in radite pens. Since the article relies partially on books which are not very accurate it is understandable.

 

As to the OP there are no appreciable differences in Canadian and US Sheaffers. Canadian pens often trailed US production by a year or two and there are some clip variations that are Canadian only. I've not seen too many Canadian flattops so it is a good find.

 

Roger W.

[Mastromaximo]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

 

No, dear Ruud, there is nothing written on the barrel . I presume that the 1925 :embarrassed_smile:

 

 

Well, since the Canadian plant opened in 1927, we can probably date the pen after that. Next, take a look at this article and see if there are other characteristics that might help.

 

You have a great pen. The Sheaffer Senior Flat Top is a favorite of mine.

 

Thank Jar, what good news you gave me!

[Mastromaximo]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

 

No, dear Ruud, there is nothing written on the barrel . I presume that the 1925 :embarrassed_smile:

 

 

Well, since the Canadian plant opened in 1927, we can probably date the pen after that. Next, take a look at this article and see if there are other characteristics that might help.

 

You have a great pen. The Sheaffer Senior Flat Top is a favorite of mine.

 

JAR;

 

Not one of the better articles to qoute due to vagueness on the imprints and the hump clip being 1925 on pens is just dead wrong. The hump clip is around 1930/31 in radite pens. Since the article relies partially on books which are not very accurate it is understandable.

 

As to the OP there are no appreciable differences in Canadian and US Sheaffers. Canadian pens often trailed US production by a year or two and there are some clip variations that are Canadian only. I've not seen too many Canadian flattops so it is a good find.

 

Roger W.

 

Thanks Roger for your clarification!

[jar]

 

JAR;

 

Not one of the better articles to qoute due to vagueness on the imprints and the hump clip being 1925 on pens is just dead wrong. The hump clip is around 1930/31 in radite pens. Since the article relies partially on books which are not very accurate it is understandable.

 

As to the OP there are no appreciable differences in Canadian and US Sheaffers. Canadian pens often trailed US production by a year or two and there are some clip variations that are Canadian only. I've not seen too many Canadian flattops so it is a good find.

 

Roger W.

 

True Roger. Can you provide him with some better links to get started?

[kirchh]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

 

No, dear Ruud, there is nothing written on the barrel . I presume that the 1925 :embarrassed_smile:

Look very closely at the barrel; it should have an imprint, which would indicate the country of origin.

 

--Daniel

[Mastromaximo]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

 

No, dear Ruud, there is nothing written on the barrel . I presume that the 1925 :embarrassed_smile:

Look very closely at the barrel; it should have an imprint, which would indicate the country of origin.

 

--Daniel

 

Hi Daniel, the write on the barrel is:

W.A.SHEAFFER PEN C.

PAT.AUG.25.08 FORT MADISON.IA.USA

DEC.10.12 - JAN.27 -OCT.20 -NOV.24.14

[jar]

 

Hi Daniel, the write on the barrel is:

W.A.SHEAFFER PEN C.

PAT.AUG.25.08 FORT MADISON.IA.USA

DEC.10.12 - JAN.27 -OCT.20 -NOV.24.14

 

So the body was made in the US.

[kirchh]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

 

No, dear Ruud, there is nothing written on the barrel . I presume that the 1925 :embarrassed_smile:

Look very closely at the barrel; it should have an imprint, which would indicate the country of origin.

 

--Daniel

Hi Daniel, the write on the barrel is:

W.A.SHEAFFER PEN C.

PAT.AUG.25.08 FORT MADISON.IA.USA

DEC.10.12 - JAN.27 -OCT.20 -NOV.24.14

As I suspected; just a replacement nib.

 

--Daniel

Edited January 10, 2010 by kirchh

[Mastromaximo]

What gives you the idea that your pen is a 1925 pen? An patent inscription on the barrel? Information provided by your seller?

 

Ruud

 

No, dear Ruud, there is nothing written on the barrel . I presume that the 1925 :embarrassed_smile:

Look very closely at the barrel; it should have an imprint, which would indicate the country of origin.

 

--Daniel

Hi Daniel, the write on the barrel is:

W.A.SHEAFFER PEN C.

PAT.AUG.25.08 FORT MADISON.IA.USA

DEC.10.12 - JAN.27 -OCT.20 -NOV.24.14

As I suspected; just a replacement nib.

 

--Daniel

 

My too 'I think they replaced the nib. ..

Thanks Daniel!