Naginata Togi nibs from Sailor

[pixwriter]

Thanks for this: I'll have to give it a try. It looks like you've found the secret to this pen!

 

Here's a photo of the nib showing the shape:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3278/3112898510_5e8a4d70f1_m.jpg

 

Edit to say that, having given this a quick try, I'm getting more variation. Good tip! I'll need to work on this...

 

Great, let me know how you get on.

This is one of the reasons why I thought it would be great to have a place where speciality nib information was pinned. I still have to work out the differences between the cross emperor and the cross music emperor, and searching the forums didn't help much.

[Siv]

I still have to work out the differences between the cross emperor and the cross music emperor, and searching the forums didn't help much.

 

I think the cross nib has a flattened surface so that the line is broad on both left/right and up/down strokes

http://www.nibs.com/www/WEBSITE%20PICS/Sailor%20Pens/KopXEdetail.jpg

 

The cross music has a more rounded or point surface so that the line is broad on the left/right stroke but narrow on the up/down stroke

http://www.leighreyes.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/nib-underside.jpg

[pixwriter]

I still have to work out the differences between the cross emperor and the cross music emperor, and searching the forums didn't help much.

 

I think the cross nib has a flattened surface so that the line is broad on both left/right and up/down strokes

http://www.nibs.com/www/WEBSITE%20PICS/Sailor%20Pens/KopXEdetail.jpg

 

The cross music has a more rounded or point surface so that the line is broad on the left/right stroke but narrow on the up/down stroke

http://www.leighreyes.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/nib-underside.jpg

 

thanks Siv, that makes sense. I have a cross emperor that was made by the elder Nagahara-san himself some years ago and it looks nothing like the production model. It is an amazing nib though. It looks like this one here: http://www.stylophilesonline.com/archive/jan03/02rant.htm

[greencobra]

The thread has a bunch of useful information now.

 

pixwriter, fantastic sample page showing how versatile this nib can be in the right hands.

 

But...I'm thinking now this nib was made for the Japanese market to write in Japanese, and writing in another language will be a chore. If one wants line variation and flex, then there's a nib for that, designed for the western style of writing that wouldn't require so much work to use.

[Siv]

I pulled out my Naginata Broad last night and started practicing. About 10% of the time I can get line variation like pix' sample above and the rest of the time the line variation is not so noticable. I also find that it works better if you write fast! The "gh" combination is one where I get a decent result.

 

I'm taking my Togi and my notebook to work and I'm going to practice more!

[pixwriter]

The thread has a bunch of useful information now.

 

pixwriter, fantastic sample page showing how versatile this nib can be in the right hands.

 

But...I'm thinking now this nib was made for the Japanese market to write in Japanese, and writing in another language will be a chore. If one wants line variation and flex, then there's a nib for that, designed for the western style of writing that wouldn't require so much work to use.

 

No, flex nibs are MUCH harder work. (Though I love them) The NMF is fantastic and fast and easy, for great effects at normal writing speeds, honestly.

It is just a feedback thing, angling the nib slightly and seeing what happens.

Its a little like a clutch and gear change in a manual(shiftstick) car, it is not something you can overanalyse, more instinctive muscle memory.

 

Siv is right, 'gh' or 'ghijklm' all looped together is a great way to get a feel for what the nib does.

[Garageboy]

Thanks for the review. I think I'm going to pass. Sounds like something perfect for Kanji, etc and not so much for English

[greencobra]

I'm still toying with the idea. I probably will pick one up pretty soon.

[Sailor Kenshin]

This is a great thread, as I'm trying to figure out which nib to get with a Sailor 1911.

 

Both the Naginata and Cross Music are on the list---as is the Zoom.

[tallyhopd]

I had a N-MF and now have a N-B. The N-MF showed more noticable line variation in my writing but the N-B can actually have a much greater range when some attention is paid to how you use it.

 

In the end, I don't think I am sophisticated enough to get the best from the pen and I stick to stubs to add character to my writing. I do, however, keep the N-B for really fat juicy signatures.

 

Siv, Did you ever post a writing sample of your N-B nib? I thought I saw one but cannot seem to find it again.

 

Please advise,

 

Tallyhopd

[Siv]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2557/3956699398_0ced8c5b62_b.jpg Edited December 3, 2009 by Siv