PARKER "71" & PARKER "61"

[algabatz]

I have just finished the chapter about the Parker "61" and it's prototype sister pen, the Parker "71" with many great images from the Parker experimental Archives.

 

As usual I would like comments, corrections and additions!

And as usual I don't have sufficient images of the different pen models. Any help is most gratefully recieved!

 

/Tony

 

 

http://parkercollector.com/parker71.html

http://parkercollector.com/parker61.html

 

 

 

I'm also working on the British Duofolds, so if You have images to share of this model too, please contact me!

 

[algabatz]

No? A little BUMP, perhaps?

[algabatz]

No-one interested in the "61"?

A BUMP for Europe.

 

 

[diplomat]

Tony, I am not a Parker collector and I cannot help, but I do find your articles very useful. I'd like to see more in details the capillary system, a clean specimen, the filling method, etc...

 

Can we say that the capillary system was one of the worst thing that happened to Parker in his history?

 

Ciao and thanks for your effort,

[jon82]

I have just finished the chapter about the Parker "61" and it's prototype sister pen, the Parker "71" with many great images from the Parker experimental Archives.

 

As usual I would like comments, corrections and additions!

And as usual I don't have sufficient images of the different pen models. Any help is most gratefully recieved!

 

/Tony

 

 

http://parkercollector.com/parker71.html

http://parkercollector.com/parker61.html

 

 

 

I'm also working on the British Duofolds, so if You have images to share of this model too, please contact me!

 

Great site, I have a grey Heirloom that I would be happy to photgraph for you, just send me a PM if you are interested.

[richardandtracy]

Thanks very much.

 

A lot of useful info there about styles etc. I really hadn't appreciated that the cloud collection for the P61 came out so late.

 

Are you sure that the metal jewels were as late as 1975? I received a metal jewel burgundy P61 Custom from my mother in 1978 which was NOS having been lost in the shop for a few years and was rediscovered as the shop was clearing out ready for closure. The price tag on the box read £6 6' 0" (Six pounds, Six Shillings and Zero Pence). The UK decimalised on 15 Feb 1971, so it's highly likely the price tag was written before that date. Anyway, in 1978, after rampant inflation throughout the 1970's, my mother bought the pen for £6.30p, the decimal equivalent of the price on the box. (I still have the nib in a P51, as it's the only functional part remaining of a much loved pen.) My brother got a Teal P61 Custom with a broad nib at the same time - but he never liked it.

 

I had never heard of the MKII P61 being called a P71 - fascinating.

 

Regards,

 

Richard.

 

[parkercrazy]

I have just finished the chapter about the Parker "61" and it's prototype sister pen, the Parker "71" with many great images from the Parker experimental Archives.

 

As usual I would like comments, corrections and additions!

And as usual I don't have sufficient images of the different pen models. Any help is most gratefully recieved!

 

/Tony

 

 

http://parkercollector.com/parker71.html

http://parkercollector.com/parker61.html

 

 

 

I'm also working on the British Duofolds, so if You have images to share of this model too, please contact me!

 

 

Hi Tony,

 

I may be just a little help on the Parker 71, below are just a few scans of the 71. As you can see, they did do a pilot run, so a few may still exist. Parker was working on the 61, 71 & 31X all at the same time and they are all closely related. I do have several Parker documents related to these Pens if you are interested. I will try to get this information together this afternoon. Would be interesting to know where the 174 pens in the test run are today, hopefully not in the Janesville land fill, as so many were disposed of that way

 

Take Care, Francis

 

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0017-2.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0016-2.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0015-1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0014-3.jpg

[algabatz]

Hi Tony,

 

I may be just a little help on the Parker 71, below are just a few scans of the 71. As you can see, they did do a pilot run, so a few may still exist. Parker was working on the 61, 71 & 31X all at the same time and they are all closely related. I do have several Parker documents related to these Pens if you are interested. I will try to get this information together this afternoon. Would be interesting to know where the 174 pens in the test run are today, hopefully not in the Janesville land fill, as so many were disposed of that way

 

Take Care, Francis

 

 

Wow! That's fantastic... and yes, please!

 

/ony

[parkercrazy]

Hi Tony,

 

I may be just a little help on the Parker 71, below are just a few scans of the 71. As you can see, they did do a pilot run, so a few may still exist. Parker was working on the 61, 71 & 31X all at the same time and they are all closely related. I do have several Parker documents related to these Pens if you are interested. I will try to get this information together this afternoon. Would be interesting to know where the 174 pens in the test run are today, hopefully not in the Janesville land fill, as so many were disposed of that way

 

Take Care, Francis

 

 

Wow! That's fantastic... and yes, please!

 

/ony

 

 

Hi Tony,

 

I will work on getting this information on the 71 and related pens together this afternoon, H ave to check on my 87 year old mother now, Would you like this information posted on this FPN board or emailed to you? my email address is parkercrazy@comcast.net

Always happy to share information about Parker. So much of it gets lost as we loose Ex Parker employee's.

 

Francis

[rhodes]

Those 71 scans are wonderful, thanks for sharing them Francis. As to Tony's truly excellent article I do have a two minor comments. At the very, very top of your article, the date range (1969-1983) is clearly a typo. The second is about dating. According to the article, Vista Blue (and Surf Green) was dropped in 1959 for Caribbean Green and in 1962 the Mark II emerged, so then there should not be any Mark II 61's in Vista Blue, but I'm pretty sure I've seen several (and have one). I can't say for sure, since I've never seen all three colored pens together in one picture (in fact I have never seen any picture of a Caribbean Green 61; anyone care to contribute), but Richard Binder shows on his page a Mark II in Vista Blue, which is quite convincing. So I am inclined to think that Vista Blue went on sometime past 1962, but perhaps you and others who know far better can weigh in on this.

Edited July 27, 2009 by rhodes

[parkercrazy]

Hi Tony,

 

I may be just a little help on the Parker 71, below are just a few scans of the 71. As you can see, they did do a pilot run, so a few may still exist. Parker was working on the 61, 71 & 31X all at the same time and they are all closely related. I do have several Parker documents related to these Pens if you are interested. I will try to get this information together this afternoon. Would be interesting to know where the 174 pens in the test run are today, hopefully not in the Janesville land fill, as so many were disposed of that way

 

Take Care, Francis

 

 

Wow! That's fantastic... and yes, please!

 

/ony

 

 

Hi Tony,

 

I will work on getting this information on the 71 and related pens together this afternoon, H ave to check on my 87 year old mother now, Would you like this information posted on this FPN board or emailed to you? my email address is parkercrazy@comcast.net

Always happy to share information about Parker. So much of it gets lost as we loose Ex Parker employee's.

 

Francis

 

 

Hi Tony,

 

Just a few more scans on the Parker 71, I have way to much of this stuff, as I know I have seen it or read it, but try to find it again. In 1953-55 Parker was trying the Capillary Filler in Just about everything in production, including the 51 The 1st photo is a Parker 51 w/Capillary Filler - Prototype, never put into production. I also have a number of scans of shop orders for the 61, Hard to believe some of things they tried.

 

Hope you find these Interesting,

Francis

 

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/000_0254-1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0024.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0023-1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0022.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0021.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0020-1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0019-1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/fjm111/scan0018-1.jpg

[algabatz]

Those 71 scans are wonderful, thanks for sharing them Francis. As to Tony's truly excellent article I do have a two minor comments. At the very, very top of your article, the date range (1969-1983) is clearly a typo. The second is about dating. According to the article, Vista Blue (and Surf Green) was dropped in 1959 for Caribbean Green and in 1962 the Mark II emerged, so then there should not be any Mark II 61's in Vista Blue, but I'm pretty sure I've seen several (and have one). I can't say for sure, since I've never seen all three colored pens together in one picture (in fact I have never seen any picture of a Caribbean Green 61; anyone care to contribute), but Richard Binder shows on his page a Mark II in Vista Blue, which is quite convincing. So I am inclined to think that Vista Blue went on sometime past 1962, but perhaps you and others who know far better can weigh in on this.

 

You're quite right, thanks!

 

According to the 1961 Parker catalogue the setup was as follows:

 

   Black

     Blue

     Red

     Charcoal Grey

 

     Presidential (14K solid gold pen)

     Insignia (1/10 12K gold filled pen)

     Jet Flighter(Lustraloy pen with chrome clip)

     Heirloom (1/10 14K gold filled 2-tone cap)

     Costum (1/10 14K gold filled 2-tone cap)

     Classic (Lustraloy cap with chrome clip)

 

Corrected on the site.

 

I have to check on the colour setup. Maybe the Caribbean Green and maroon was introduced in 1962 or even in 1969?

 

/Tony

[rhodes]

I have to check on the colour setup. Maybe the Caribbean Green and maroon was introduced in 1962 or even in 1969?

In the meantime, here's a puzzling 61 that Mottishaw had up for sale. http://www.nibs.com/Parker75LaterWritingImpPage.htm (scroll down a bit). Now this is allegedly a "Surf Green" model, but it has the Mark II trim ring. Even stranger, it sounds and looks like it has a Heritage cap.... Now I know the cap could easily have been switched, but the trim ring? Perhaps that's the Caribbean Green color (although it sure looks like my Surf Green 61)? I really have NO idea what to make of that one...

 

Oh, and not to nitpick, but one correction is needed to your correction; you have "Costum (1/10 14K gold filled 2-tone cap)"

[algabatz]

I have to check on the colour setup. Maybe the Caribbean Green and maroon was introduced in 1962 or even in 1969?

 

 

Oh, and not to nitpick, but one correction is needed to your correction; you have "Costum (1/10 14K gold filled 2-tone cap)"

 

He he, when it comes to information, nitpicking is good!

 

Thanks again,

/Tony