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Sorry , :embarrassed_smile: , can't find the answer on J.Herbin's website, nor on Google ...

 

Recently, the charming lady in Styl'Honoré in Paris corrected my "Jacques" to "Jean" , but I can't find any confirmation

of this ...

 

I would prefer "Jacques" : its sounds better to me in French .

 

 

Merci pour vos lumières ...

 

 

 

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sorry , posted twice and I think not in the right place

 

 

oh dear

 

 

got lost in inky thoughts I guess ...

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While we are talking about Herbin, can someone give me the correct pronunciation? Is the "H" silent or spoken? Is the last syllable pronounced "bin" or "bean"?

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My thick-tongued anglophone pronunciation is "HEIR ban", but I always accept correction.

 

That's about right! :)

 

As a French person living in the U.S, I had to switch accent to get it right and ban is indeed the anglophone equivalent of the francophone bin.

 

Ah languages!

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A french search on google with with Herbin and Encre along with either of those names shows precious little information.... I found a good number of links under the search "Jean Herbin" and Encre mainly the more definitive ones during my very brief look were a reference to a dip pen set that said Jean Herbin and a french calligraphy forum that mentions it as Jean Herbin. On the other hand, a french search for terms "Jacques Herbin" and "Encre" comes up with all of 4 results, none of them having anything at all to do with inks, pens calligraphy or wax.

 

Not definitive info, but i thought it may help.

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Our member Jean Elie (alias: epictete92) might know it or find it out. He has been to the J. Herbin factory and has some connections there.

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Well , thank you so much ! ...

 

 

so Jean it probably is ...

 

I wrote to the Herbin site before I read your kind answer and search , I will let you know if

they write back

 

 

Merci beaucoup

 

:D

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My thick-tongued anglophone pronunciation is "HEIR ban", but I always accept correction.

 

I thought it was pronounced as 'AIR ban' but you need to put a bit of accent into the 'Air' part!

N.

 

Of course,the 'n' in 'ban' is hardly pronounced at all.

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My thick-tongued anglophone pronunciation is "HEIR ban", but I always accept correction.

 

I thought it was pronounced as 'AIR ban' but you need to put a bit of accent into the 'Air' part!

N.

 

Of course,the 'n' in 'ban' is hardly pronounced at all.

 

Final N not pronounced at all.

 

 

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Is it simply J. by itself like the S. in Harry S. Truman?

 

I think it's possible it could be J. by itself, if it is a company name.

Suppose that when the first Herbin started the ink business, only

J. was put on the sign?

 

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Hello friends,

 

Thank you saintsimon and Soki, but you should not bet on me :-)

i have called this morning the headoffice of Herbin in Paris and even beside them no one knows the real answer, even people who has been working over there for years and years.

Sorry !

Best regards

 

Jean ( not the one from Herbin :-))) Elie

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Hello friends,

 

Thank you saintsimon and Soki, but you should not bet on me :-)

i have called this morning the headoffice of Herbin in Paris and even beside them no one knows the real answer, even people who has been working over there for years and years.

Sorry !

Best regards

 

Jean ( not the one from Herbin :-))) Elie

 

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My thick-tongued anglophone pronunciation is "HEIR ban", but I always accept correction.

 

I thought it was pronounced as 'AIR ban' but you need to put a bit of accent into the 'Air' part!

N.

 

Of course,the 'n' in 'ban' is hardly pronounced at all.

 

Final N not pronounced at all.

 

 

Fernan

 

So it's like Air-baw (except not really a W, I just didn't know how else to write it.)?

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Hm. Isn't there a little vestigial n-like something that brings up the end of the end? Sort of

"Airban"

 

As indicated earlier, I am profoundly monoglot, and this is based only on occasional hearing of the fairly insular Fransaskois version of French.

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Jacques or Jean: whichever it is, I'll bet he's dead... :rolleyes:

 

If not, I want his secret for longevity. :roflmho:

 

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Looks like the founder of the company was actually a M. Herbin so J may be something else.

 

 

 

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Looks like the founder of the company was actually a M. Herbin so J may be something else.

 

M. = Monsieur

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