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Got Goldfinks In Your Collection?

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#1 markiv

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 18:19

Goldfink is yet another, relatively obscure German brand know for making high quality products. In my opinion, Goldfink was the Matador of 4-5 years ago. 
Penboard.de has repository of nice specimens if one is interested in learning about their models.
Here is a two page leaflet showing their diverse portfolio (images belong to eBayer watermarked). I dont think it shows their complete line of pens but it has their rarer models like Transparent and Long-short safety pens. It is believed that their products were contract manufactured by various makers around Berlin.
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Goldfink is better know for their Wonderfüller which is a hybrid of twist and button filler. I had one in a #2 size but am regretting selling it. I had a few Goldfinks but one latest acquisition prompted this thread. It is the top pen in the pic below. I think it is the Preisschlager (economy) model per the leaflet above. Cosmetically it is in very good condition and has an amazing #6 flex nib. Their nib denomination runs smaller than typical and perhaps #6 is more like a #4 or #5. The faceted captop design is very attractive and one of my favorite feature of this brand.

Other pens below are a #6 stylograph safety, MB142 and MB146 sized piston fillers.

If you have any please share details and your experience with them.

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 16:53

Thanks for sharing - I didn't realize that Goldfink made some non-black celluloid pens. (I've only seen black Goldfinks)

 

I used to have a Goldfink Wunderfuller - I loved the cap design with the 6-pointed hat and this pen had a big "porthole" ink view. Great pen but just had a nib that was too broad for my writing and I decided to sell it off to help me buy a grail pen. 



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Posted 01 January 2016 - 18:09

Thanks for sharing - I didn't realize that Goldfink made some non-black celluloid pens. (I've only seen black Goldfinks)
 
I used to have a Goldfink Wunderfuller - I loved the cap design with the 6-pointed hat and this pen had a big "porthole" ink view. Great pen but just had a nib that was too broad for my writing and I decided to sell it off to help me buy a grail pen. 


Yeah, those porthole ink window on Wunderfüller are really neat.
I have seen pics of non-black pen from export markets but cannot deny their existence. In fact, I played with a beautiful lapis pen at Dr.Sumers table in 2015.
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Posted 01 January 2016 - 19:11

markiv,

 

Glad you collect Goldfink, What a great pen ! I have some, the empty spaces are from the gold ones in another box.

 

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Most probably the blue you played with at Osman table is one of the blue ones here... I published an interview with a Los Angeles Goldfink collector in The Pennant (PCA Magazine) several months back in case you are interested.

(by the way, happy birthday ! and happy new year)



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Posted 01 January 2016 - 19:34

Your pens are so great than I thought, at least some here deserve a closer shot...

 

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 19:54

When there are threads about pens I love and collect, I believe they should have more... and in relation to the manufacture, Golfink was a jeweler with several shops in Berlin and his pens were mainly manufactured by Fend and Melbi and only in the early period they used warranted nibs.

I have – for a later moment hopefully today –, an Astoria Safety which has an imprint on the cap: Goldfink... my hypothesis is that probably Mr. Goldfink tried to get his pens manufactured by Astoria and it was too expensive... but it is only an idea.

 

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 20:23

Ariel, you are the 'Genie' of pendom - one wishes and you deliver  :drool:
The colored celluloid pens are super rare and beautiful too. Goldfink's captop is unique already but the Garrison captop design is something else  :happyberet:
 
With you extensive collection, I wonder if you have come across the long-short safety pens (Kurzlang). I have been looking for one.
 
Also, your comments about Astoria having a hand in their pens is interesting. I have always felt that given the similarities between the filler mechanism of Dux and Wunderfüller. I don't have pictures of a Wunderfüller but here is one comparing Astoria and Matador Turbo.
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Posted 01 January 2016 - 20:37

.................Golfink was a jeweler with several shops in Berlin and his pens were mainly manufactured by Fend and Melbi and only in the early period they used warranted nibs...............

Hello Ariel

I think this idea initially stemmed from Wallrafen. But there are complete scans from the historical adress books of Berlin online and we can find a very early fountain pen producer named "Fink", who transformed by the years to "Goldfink".

Outstanding collection!!!

Kind Regards and best wishes for the new year.

Thomas


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Posted 01 January 2016 - 21:14



Hello Ariel

I think this idea initially stemmed from Wallrafen. But there are complete scans from the historical adress books of Berlin online and we can find a very early fountain pen producer named "Fink", who transformed by the years to "Goldfink".

Outstanding collection!!!

Kind Regards and best wishes for the new year.

Thomas

Thomas

You are right, and I should have been more precise, in fact the jeweler name was Mr. Fink and it was by the time he started producing the first safeties with gold / silver overlay that pens started to be named Goldfink. In relation to Wallrafen what I did was to confirm with him what he said about Goldfink (there is a second complementary interview with him in the next Pennant of the one I mentioned), but most of the information came from different sources and not only from him. Nevertheless this Astoria I offered to show, below, shows how right you are since it is printed Gold–Fink. I still believe my hypothesis is not completely wrong... One thing I also believe is that Mr. Fink never manufactured the pens. I hope we can clarify this soon....

 

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 21:24

Ariel, you are the 'Genie' of pendom - one wishes and you deliver  :drool:
The colored celluloid pens are super rare and beautiful too. Goldfink's captop is unique already but the Garrison captop design is something else  :happyberet:
 
With you extensive collection, I wonder if you have come across the long-short safety pens (Kurzlang). I have been looking for one.
 
Also, your comments about Astoria having a hand in their pens is interesting. I have always felt that given the similarities between the filler mechanism of Dux and Wunderfüller. I don't have pictures of a Wunderfüller but here is one comparing Astoria and Matador Turbo.
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Thank you for your comment markiv, the largest part of my collection is German pens and I jump when I see a name or a filling system I have never seen or heard of.

 

I have not come across the one you are looking for but will keep my eyes open. Now, in relation to the similarities of Dux and Wunderfüller I think Dux was before but the second became more well known through Golfink. I have a Montblanc "Premier" which I believe is one of the brands MB produced, almost identical to the Astoria Dux and the Turbo Matador you show us... I love that filling system and at least in my case, using it all the time, it has never failed me.

Will upload an image of the Premier later since there is more time today.



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Posted 01 January 2016 - 21:42

I have been learning so much with this thread ! and I believe we all are... Thank you for the comments...

 

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 04:47

That is a very beautiful pen.
Thanks for showing us your pens.
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Posted 30 January 2016 - 22:08

I am late to this topic, but would love to share my Goldfink. The clip and band border on the baroque, details that depart from other German pens of the time, yet details that only add to its allure in my eyes. And the OBB nib is a veritable brush:)

 

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Edited by playtime, 30 January 2016 - 22:23.

"Writing is 1/3 nib width & flex, 1/3 paper and 1/3 ink. In that order."Bo Bo Olson

"No one needs to rotate a pen while using an oblique, in fact, that's against the whole concept of an oblique, which is to give you shading without any special effort."Professor Propas, 24 December 2010

 

"IMHO, the only advantage of the 149 is increased girth if needed, increased gold if wanted and increased prestige if perceived.  I have three, but hardly ever use them.  After all, they hold the same amount of ink as a 146."FredRydr, 12 March 2015

 

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Posted 30 January 2016 - 23:29

Jason, that is a nice pen. What is the nib size on it?


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Posted 30 January 2016 - 23:56

Hi Vikram. A little bigger than the nib on a Soennecken 111. A size 7? I'll take a pic of it next to the Matador 998 nib, which is larger, and of course I'll show it to you when we see eachother at the Chicago Show:)


"Writing is 1/3 nib width & flex, 1/3 paper and 1/3 ink. In that order."Bo Bo Olson

"No one needs to rotate a pen while using an oblique, in fact, that's against the whole concept of an oblique, which is to give you shading without any special effort."Professor Propas, 24 December 2010

 

"IMHO, the only advantage of the 149 is increased girth if needed, increased gold if wanted and increased prestige if perceived.  I have three, but hardly ever use them.  After all, they hold the same amount of ink as a 146."FredRydr, 12 March 2015

 

"Surely half the pleasure of life is sardonic comment on the passing show."Sir Peter Strawson


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Posted 01 February 2016 - 06:38

Thanks! thats a decent sized nib.

 

Yep - eagerly waiting for the show.


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Posted 01 February 2016 - 18:22

Here's a picture of the nib, compared to the nib of a Matador 998.

 

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"Writing is 1/3 nib width & flex, 1/3 paper and 1/3 ink. In that order."Bo Bo Olson

"No one needs to rotate a pen while using an oblique, in fact, that's against the whole concept of an oblique, which is to give you shading without any special effort."Professor Propas, 24 December 2010

 

"IMHO, the only advantage of the 149 is increased girth if needed, increased gold if wanted and increased prestige if perceived.  I have three, but hardly ever use them.  After all, they hold the same amount of ink as a 146."FredRydr, 12 March 2015

 

"Surely half the pleasure of life is sardonic comment on the passing show."Sir Peter Strawson


#18 markiv

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 18:45

The Goldfink's nib is much bigger than I had expected. Also, the engraving is quite different than ones I have seen. That looks like a 24? does it relate to its model number?



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Posted 01 February 2016 - 22:04

The Goldfink's nib is much bigger than I had expected. Also, the engraving is quite different than ones I have seen. That looks like a 24? does it relate to its model number?

 

A good question, to which I do not have an answer. We'll find out once Dr. Sumer arrives in May:)


"Writing is 1/3 nib width & flex, 1/3 paper and 1/3 ink. In that order."Bo Bo Olson

"No one needs to rotate a pen while using an oblique, in fact, that's against the whole concept of an oblique, which is to give you shading without any special effort."Professor Propas, 24 December 2010

 

"IMHO, the only advantage of the 149 is increased girth if needed, increased gold if wanted and increased prestige if perceived.  I have three, but hardly ever use them.  After all, they hold the same amount of ink as a 146."FredRydr, 12 March 2015

 

"Surely half the pleasure of life is sardonic comment on the passing show."Sir Peter Strawson


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Posted 01 February 2016 - 22:10

I have not a concrete answer either but as I have been writing down some hypothesis about the Goldfink history, I tend to believe the nib with a Gold-Fink in two words separated by a dash could be an earlier nib from them, and certainly a very attractive one...







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