Lamy 2000 Flex?

[XP100]

I've been writing with my Lamy 2000 fine nib for about 3 months now, and I've noticed something rather bizarre: The nib is flexible.

 

No, not like the original springiness you get with 14k gold nibs, but almost proper flex (semi-flex, at least). The line can be varied to more than double its width.

 

Is this something to do with the 2000 in particular, or is this a common trend among most gold nibs?

[GSteer]

Well.. can't comment on other nibs but my fine only springs a bit under pressure, although it hasn't had much use yet. On the flip side I've just picked up a medium from another FPN member and it's tines spread as soon as I touch it to paper.

 

I don't have many other modern gold nibs except my VP Medium, which is lovely and springy.

[Ernst Bitterman]

Others have noted this in the past, and reading it has lead others into the error of treating it as actual flex. It's an interesting paradox that such an otherwise sturdy pen has such a perilously gracile point. As the booze ads say, enjoy in moderation. I know I do

[imadeadend]

I've been writing with my Lamy 2000 fine nib for about 3 months now, and I've noticed something rather bizarre: The nib is flexible.

 

No, not like the original springiness you get with 14k gold nibs, but almost proper flex (semi-flex, at least). The line can be varied to more than double its width.

 

Is this something to do with the 2000 in particular, or is this a common trend among most gold nibs?

 

Pssssst. The 2000 nib IS 14k gold...

[79spitfire]

My Lamy 2000 EF is 'springy' and the line width does vary to about double. As Ernst stated, use in moderation, it's not a true flex in the sense of an old Waterman, it's more of a pleasant spring!

 

Very nice!

[XP100]

Others have noted this in the past, and reading it has lead others into the error of treating it as actual flex. It's an interesting paradox that such an otherwise sturdy pen has such a perilously gracile point. As the booze ads say, enjoy in moderation. I know I do

 

I'm fully aware that over-flex is an issue, especially when a pen like this is involved: It simply wasn't designed to be flexible (for example, when I try to flex it railroads often, which is due to the feed not designed to handle such an ink flow). I'm not saying that I intend to use it like a Noodler's flex pen or anything, but the nib is definitely not just "springy" anymore. I definitely will use this "feature" in moderation, though.

 

I've been writing with my Lamy 2000 fine nib for about 3 months now, and I've noticed something rather bizarre: The nib is flexible.

 

No, not like the original springiness you get with 14k gold nibs, but almost proper flex (semi-flex, at least). The line can be varied to more than double its width.

 

Is this something to do with the 2000 in particular, or is this a common trend among most gold nibs?

 

Pssssst. The 2000 nib IS 14k gold...

 

I'm aware of that. I meant "non-flexible 14k nibs," what you would typically see in most modern-day fountain pens.

[Freddypipsqueek]

The nib design on the 2000 goes back along time. The 2000 itself is a 1960's design and the nib used before in other pens before that (such as the 99 etc). The nib on the 2000 is surprising small give the external dimensions of the pen (look for photos of them striped). Given this it seems quite posible for there to be variations in flex due to the nib & feed. I have one stiff one and one (off a 99) which has much more flex; the one of the 99 is not rodium plated. I also have a couple of the steel nibs - same design - which have no flex at all.

[Kaych]

Is it a new Lamy 2000? I ordered a replacement nib from a member on this board that was from another, older, Lamy model, but it fit the the L2K perfectly. It is a semi-flex nib compared to the stock nib which was springy, but not definitely not flexy. Is it possible a previous owner swapped the nib out?

[Nick13]

I agree, I have had the Lamy for a while, it is fantastic for note taking, it is discreet and has a much better chance of not getting stolen.

 

I have recently decided to buy the Namiki Falcon, I'm waiting for it in the mail, but as soon as it comes, i'll tell you how it writes

[icevic]

It doesn't flex by the usual definition of the term, but it is definitely springy, which makes it a very comfortable pen to write with.

 

It's a great pen. Quality is below average, but a lifetime warranty makes it a good purchase. I reach for it all the time.

[max dog]

the l2k nib gives nice linr variation. better thsn most other non flex gold nibs. althogh i dont like the looks of the pen. i think its got a very nice springy nib with minor flex. i gave mine away to a friend and he let me try it again recently and i miss that nib. might get another one of these days

[cbaytan]

I've been writing with my Lamy 2000 fine nib for about 3 months now, and I've noticed something rather bizarre: The nib is flexible.

 

No, not like the original springiness you get with 14k gold nibs, but almost proper flex (semi-flex, at least). The line can be varied to more than double its width.

 

Sorry but my Ahab does say more than quadruple lines and it's semi-flex , even Monteverde Napa 1.1 stub gives more than double line variation with steel nib my Pilot 78G.B (italic in actual) is better say triple, it's line variation. This is flex:

 

[Cyber6]

AWESOME VIDEO!!!!!!

 

This is flex:

[max dog]

 

Sorry but my Ahab does say more than quadruple lines and it's semi-flex , even Monteverde Napa 1.1 stub gives more than double line variation with steel nib my Pilot 78G.B (italic in actual) is better say triple, it's line variation. This is flex:

 

My $20 dip pen can flex like that and more, but it's nice when a nib not designed for flex, has some minor flex to enable some character to your writing and still be a very smooth responsive practical everyday writer like the Lamy 2000.

[rochester21]

If the nib on the lamy 2000 is flexible, then flex it up !! Let`s see some samples and find out if it can beat a vintage flex pen.

 

[Bo Bo Olson]

I think when one goes from a nail to a 'springy' nib, some get confused, thinking it semi-flex.

Could it be semi-flex????..I doubt it.

That Lamy 'makes' even by mistake a 'springy' nib is new to me, after reading about Lamy some four years here. Especially on the 2000 a well known nail.

 

 

It could also be that the nib is sprung. I think there could be a lot of sprung nails. That some one sprung, looking for this 'flex' everyone is talking about....

Or after a few months of jack hammering it...the stage above Ham Fisted, the nib slowly springs.

 

The key is some say after months...the nib has changed. A nib is as it is, from the start, a regular flex, a springy (more bend than regular flex with less tine spread) or semi-flex.

There is no 'breaking in'. There is of course breaking.

Any such change is from springing the nib....perhaps only a little bit...perhaps one stage under bent for good. The nib is on the way to ruin, from jack hammering; sooner or later it will remain sprung. .

 

That happens...one should read Richards article on how easy it is to spring a nib.

 

I don't have a 2000, I have a Persona, CPM-1, 27, and a Safari. All are nails.I don't expect regular flex on a Lamy, much less semi-flex.

I have been wrong often enough, but would never expect anything but a Nail from Lamy.

 

My Artus (a bought up Lamy sub-brand) don't count IMO by me as Lamy...they have old late '40's-early '50s regular flex nibs.

Edited June 12, 2013 by Bo Bo Olson

[Ernst Bitterman]

I don't have a 2000, I have a Persona, CPM-1, 27, and a Safari

 

The 2000 point is a rather different creature. It's very soft relative to the common square-back points Lamy, so someone who hasn't run up against actual flex might easily mistake what they're feeling. However, as I and others have stated previously, it's not something to over-test, or springing is a distinct possibility.

[Bo Bo Olson]

OK, good to know..I'd only remember...as one remembers a pen one is not likely to get, that some called it a nail.

 

Used 2000's seldom show up on German Ebay...or not the 15 or so times I went looking.

 

I saw my first 2000 in Germany in '66...pining over a Snorkel I could not afford. I wasn't ready for Bauhaus, thought the Pelikan ugly, and MB over priced clunkers....why gold plated MB's cost as much as Rolled Gold Snorkels....and none were a Snorkel.

 

Yep changed my mind on the Pelikan.

[max dog]

Maybe as someone else put it, "soft" is a more proper term for this forum instead of calling it flex. To call anything less than a wet noodle, "flex" here seems to be taboo.

 

Line variation without much pressure from Lamy 2000 modern fine nib:

 

 

In any event, the Lamy 2000 has more of it than most "nails" I find.

 

[msolok]

My 2000 is far from a nail. It's not flex by any stretch, but it's not a nail. It is nice and springy which gives it a nice soft feel when writing. It's my favorite pen!

 

Although, I have to admit, my Studio with 14k nib has far more spring and give than the 2000. It's also an absolute pleasure to write with.