Mont Blanc Noblesse Claimed To Be A Fake

[mooney]

I have sold a Mont Blanc Noblesse My link to a fellow in Singapore whose local Mont Blanc dealer told him it was a fake, and that he determined it by weight only.

This pen came to me as part of a group of Mont Blancs, mostly 146s and a 149 from late 80s; All had original boxes but this one. All other pens are mint and genuine.

Has anyone else heard of a fake Noblesse of this vintage?

 

Many Thanks for any help...

 

 

http://orangepens.com/UserFiles/noblesse-4.jpg

http://orangepens.com/UserFiles/noblesse-2.jpg

[osnofian]

I would say fake nevertheless because of the bottom of the pen. Mine doesn't have a black tassie.

The font (first pic on the link) looks different as well. To top it all up, mine has an 18K nib instead of 14K.

I may be wrong... but given the amount of montblanc fakes that are generally around, I would have doubts about this one.

Note: I never actually saw a fake noblesse

Edited May 8, 2011 by osnofian

[Nobel]

hard to say. I have one as well and I have long suspected it to be a fake, but mainly because it tends to have difficulty starting. Once it starts it is a very smooth and wet writer whith which i am happy, but somehow I always had doubts.

 

I think Stylophiles had some good articles with detailed pictures on fakes, but I am not sure whether Montblanc featured in that series.

 

cheers,

 

Vincent

[Michael R.]

I see no evidence that the pictured pen is a fake.

 

My Noblesse Oblige (The Noblesse was a different but similar pen with laquer over metal) looks like the pen you show (except it has a differenc color and silver trim):

 

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn140/PENSnINKS/Montblanc/MBNoblesse2.jpg

 

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn140/PENSnINKS/Montblanc/MBNoblesse4.jpg

 

Michael

[hari317]

I see no evidence that the pictured pen is a fake.

 

+1

[penparadise]

I have sold a Mont Blanc Noblesse My link to a fellow in Singapore whose local Mont Blanc dealer told him it was a fake, and that he determined it by weight only.

This pen came to me as part of a group of Mont Blancs, mostly 146s and a 149 from late 80s; All had original boxes but this one. All other pens are mint and genuine.

Has anyone else heard of a fake Noblesse of this vintage?

 

Many Thanks for any help...

 

 

http://orangepens.com/UserFiles/noblesse-4.jpg

http://orangepens.com/UserFiles/noblesse-2.jpg

 

The pen definately is not a fake but you made a mistake in the description as you said it's a Montblanc Noblesse. A Noblesse is a more expensive line as your Montblanc Noblesse Oblige so the fellow in Singapore has the right to give back the pen because of the wrong (uncomplete) description but not because it's a fake.

 

If the story is true (which I doubt) the Montblanc dealer in Singapore is a silly fool. Of course a Montblanc Noblesse is heavier than a Montblanc Noblesse Oblige. But he can't possible have said that this pen is a fake.

[osnofian]

Quite interesting... I would suspect that this pen was not made in the 80's the, when the "Noblesse" line was around. Can someone tell me more about the Noblesse Oblige pens?

Thanks

[meiers]

I have sold a Mont Blanc Noblesse My link to a fellow in Singapore whose local Mont Blanc dealer told him it was a fake, and that he determined it by weight only.

This pen came to me as part of a group of Mont Blancs, mostly 146s and a 149 from late 80s; All had original boxes but this one. All other pens are mint and genuine.

Has anyone else heard of a fake Noblesse of this vintage?

 

Many Thanks for any help...

 

 

http://orangepens.com/UserFiles/noblesse-4.jpg

http://orangepens.com/UserFiles/noblesse-2.jpg

 

The pen definately is not a fake but you made a mistake in the description as you said it's a Montblanc Noblesse. A Noblesse is a more expensive line as your Montblanc Noblesse Oblige so the fellow in Singapore has the right to give back the pen because of the wrong (uncomplete) description but not because it's a fake.

 

If the story is true (which I doubt) the Montblanc dealer in Singapore is a silly fool. Of course a Montblanc Noblesse is heavier than a Montblanc Noblesse Oblige. But he can't possible have said that this pen is a fake.

 

Thanks for clearing this up. I was hoping you'd weigh in on this.

[Gregor Samsa]

I have sold a Mont Blanc Noblesse My link to a fellow in Singapore whose local Mont Blanc dealer told him it was a fake, and that he determined it by weight only.

This pen came to me as part of a group of Mont Blancs, mostly 146s and a 149 from late 80s; All had original boxes but this one. All other pens are mint and genuine.

Has anyone else heard of a fake Noblesse of this vintage?

 

Many Thanks for any help...

 

 

http://orangepens.com/UserFiles/noblesse-4.jpg

http://orangepens.com/UserFiles/noblesse-2.jpg

 

Exact same thing happened to me when I took a MB Kafka to my local dealer. Weight alone was used to pronounce the pen a counterfeit. After emailing tech support at Mont Blanc and uploading photos they told me it was definitely not fake. The silver trim was tarnishing! My dealer was a fool. I expect he dealt only in heavy Meisterstucks.

[elysee]

I have sold a Mont Blanc Noblesse My link to a fellow in Singapore whose local Mont Blanc dealer told him it was a fake, and that he determined it by weight only.

 

Your pen is the Noblesse Oblige which is lighter than the Noblesse model which was right before it. I own several Noblesse fountain pens, rollerballs, ballpoints, and pencils. The Noblesse series was made with lacquer on brass and, thus, is heavier than the Noblesse Oblige which is a resin pen. So, the fellow in Singapore is comparing two different pens. Yours, the Noblesse Oblige, is a lighter pen, and he cannot use the weight to claim that your pen is not authentic.

[bridewell1]

I have sold a Mont Blanc Noblesse My link to a fellow in Singapore whose local Mont Blanc dealer told him it was a fake, and that he determined it by weight only.

 

Your pen is the Noblesse Oblige which is lighter than the Noblesse model which was right before it. I own several Noblesse fountain pens, rollerballs, ballpoints, and pencils. The Noblesse series was made with lacquer on brass and, thus, is heavier than the Noblesse Oblige which is a resin pen. So, the fellow in Singapore is comparing two different pens. Yours, the Noblesse Oblige, is a lighter pen, and he cannot use the weight to claim that your pen is not authentic.

 

 

Could you please look at my first post and give me any indication of if you have come across my ballpoint pen. Bridewell1 new members section. Many Thanks

[elysee]

I have sold a Mont Blanc Noblesse My link to a fellow in Singapore whose local Mont Blanc dealer told him it was a fake, and that he determined it by weight only.

 

Your pen is the Noblesse Oblige which is lighter than the Noblesse model which was right before it. I own several Noblesse fountain pens, rollerballs, ballpoints, and pencils. The Noblesse series was made with lacquer on brass and, thus, is heavier than the Noblesse Oblige which is a resin pen. So, the fellow in Singapore is comparing two different pens. Yours, the Noblesse Oblige, is a lighter pen, and he cannot use the weight to claim that your pen is not authentic.

 

 

Could you please look at my first post and give me any indication of if you have come across my ballpoint pen. Bridewell1 new members section. Many Thanks

 

Posting pictures of your pen would help folks to identify it. Do you have a digital camera or access to one? You could take several pictures and either upload the pictures to FPN for your post or post your pictures online, for example in Flickr.com, and then post hyperlinks to their location as part of your post.