Newbie Sailor Magellan Questions

[a aa]

Can one of the Sailor Experts on this forum please answer a few questions regarding the Magellan?

 

Just curious to know where it fit into the Sailor line when it was in production. Was it positioned below the the 1911M, or parallel to the 1911M?

 

I've seen it in blue and green marbled patterns. In what other patterns was it made?

 

Anyone know why it was discontinued?

 

Any links to further information would be appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

Edited December 27, 2008 by a aa

[Torts]

I have very limited knowledge but I believe they came out in 2001 to commemorate Sailor's 90th anniversary. There was some numbered limited edition sets and other non-numbered sets. I have seen fp,rb amd mp sets also one set with bp, mp and rollerball, but no fountain pen . I believe you could upgrade to a 21k nib when you ordered. Sorry but that's about all i have.

 

Torts

Edited December 28, 2008 by Torts

[stan]

If I am not mistaken the Sailor Magellan came out in the mid-1990s. It was celluloid and came in a number of colors. I've not seen any in quantity for awhile but recall tortoise being the most common. Initial production in Japan had TIGP (titanium gold-plated) nibs and later 14K. If you purchased one from Sailor in America, it had the 14K nib. I don't think they came in 21K.

 

Am not sure to what Torts refers. The 3776? If so, the Magellan was Sailors response. The 3776 came in a greater variety of colors, some made in small quantities and very collectable.

[a aa]

Thanks for the info Stan.

 

Is it then correct to infer that that the Magellan was a lower end pen than the 1911 series in Japan and was upgraded with a 14k Nib for the US market. I have not seen the Tortoise version. Can someone post photos?

 

If I am not mistaken the Sailor Magellan came out in the mid-1990s. It was celluloid and came in a number of colors. I've not seen any in quantity for awhile but recall tortoise being the most common. Initial production in Japan had TIGP (titanium gold-plated) nibs and later 14K. If you purchased one from Sailor in America, it had the 14K nib. I don't think they came in 21K.

 

Am not sure to what Torts refers. The 3776? If so, the Magellan was Sailors response. The 3776 came in a greater variety of colors, some made in small quantities and very collectable.

[a aa]

Hi Torts,

 

The Magellan was made by Sailor pen, not Platinum.

 

Regards.

 

I have very limited knowledge but I believe they came out in 2001 to commemorate Platinum's 90th birthday. There was some numbered limited edition sets and other non-numbered sets. I have seen fp,rb amd mp sets also one set with bp, mp and rollerball, but no fountain pen . I believe you could upgrade to a 21k nib when you ordered. Sorry but that's about all i have.

 

Torts

[stan]

Thanks for the info Stan.

 

Is it then correct to infer that that the Magellan was a lower end pen than the 1911 series in Japan and was upgraded with a 14k Nib for the US market. I have not seen the Tortoise version. Can someone post photos?

 

The Magellan (Great Sailor! Get it! - Sailor liked maritime themes for their pens. Trident!) probably predated the 1911 and coexisted alongside until about 2001 or 2002. Am not sure of the dates.

 

It was a darn good pen and, for my money, a better writer than the 3776 regardless of whatever nib. "Lower end" is a dubious comment! And, in about 2000 or 2001 when I obtained my first 3776, was I was impressed! So impressed I started collecting the various models. Comparing the Magellan with the 3776, it was slightly shorter in length and had a smaller nib.

 

Here's a shot of the Tortoiseshell model.

 

 

 

 

[Torts]

Sorry A AA and Stan. I hadn't had my coffee yet when I replied. I meant to type Sailor and have edited my post and am sure Stan has the best knowledge base on these Magellan's. Here is a review by Noble Savage of a 21k Magellan.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...?showtopic=3058

 

 

Torts

[stan]

Sorry A AA and Stan. I hadn't had my coffee yet when I replied. I meant to type Sailor and have edited my post and am sure Stan has the best knowledge base on these Magellan's. Here is a review by Noble Savage of a 21k Magellan.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...?showtopic=3058

 

 

Torts

 

Thanks for the reminder. Swisher had a number of different LE Magellan with 21K nibs. I recall you could only get a 21K nib though them.

 

[a aa]

Thanks again Stan ! Now that you have posted the photo of the tortoise shell model I remember seeing it on the Swisher site many years ago.

 

I stand corrected with respect to the 'lower end' comment.

 

Are there any differences in 'feel' and writing quality between the TIGP and 14k nibs? I know other pen makers have used titanium nib, but I have never used one. I guess I am trying to understand if the TIGP nib is in any way a lesser nib. Can users of the TIGP nibs comment, please?

 

 

 

Thanks for the info Stan.

 

Is it then correct to infer that that the Magellan was a lower end pen than the 1911 series in Japan and was upgraded with a 14k Nib for the US market. I have not seen the Tortoise version. Can someone post photos?

 

The Magellan (Great Sailor! Get it! - Sailor liked maritime themes for their pens. Trident!) probably predated the 1911 and coexisted alongside until about 2001 or 2002. Am not sure of the dates.

 

It was a darn good pen and, for my money, a better writer than the 3776 regardless of whatever nib. "Lower end" is a dubious comment! And, in about 2000 or 2001 when I obtained my first 3776, was I was impressed! So impressed I started collecting the various models. Comparing the Magellan with the 3776, it was slightly shorter in length and had a smaller nib.

 

Here's a shot of the Tortoiseshell model.

 

 

 

 

[troglokev]

Thanks again Stan ! Now that you have posted the photo of the tortoise shell model I remember seeing it on the Swisher site many years ago.

 

I stand corrected with respect to the 'lower end' comment.

 

Are there any differences in 'feel' and writing quality between the TIGP and 14k nibs? I know other pen makers have used titanium nib, but I have never used one. I guess I am trying to understand if the TIGP nib is in any way a lesser nib. Can users of the TIGP nibs comment, please?

 

I don't have a TIGP nib, but if I was looking for a material with which to make a nib, Titanium would be very low on the list. It's a trendy material and has many desirable properties in other applications, but it's hard to manufacture and it work hardens. Just ask the good folk who designed the Parker T1.

 

Richard Binder's discussion of nib materials here.

[stan]

TIGP is not a titanium nib. It is Titanium Gold Plated Steel. I do not know how it is made and assume it to be either titanium steel or plated in titanium prior to plating with gold.

[Dillo]

Hi,

 

Sailor uses titanium gold plate on the trim of their pens. This plating process is done by PVD of titanium and then covered with gold and then replated.

 

Dillon

Edited December 28, 2008 by Dillo

[a aa]

Thanks for clarifying this Dillo.

 

Can you compare on the writing properties of the TIGP and 14k nibs?

 

Hi,

 

Sailor uses titanium gold plate on the trim of their pens. This plating process is done by PVD of titanium and then covered with gold and then replated.

 

Dillon

[Dillo]

Hi,

 

TIGP, if steel based should write just as well as the Sailor gold nibs. It will feel just a little different because of the springiness of the metal and such.

 

I don't buy the myth that gold writes better than steel. If tuned properly, both can write just as well. (If talking about anti-corrosion properties, gold does win over steel though!)

 

Dillon

[a aa]

Thanks again Dillo.

 

The depth of knowledge that board members possess is quite remarkable.

 

Hi,

 

TIGP, if steel based should write just as well as the Sailor gold nibs. It will feel just a little different because of the springiness of the metal and such.

 

I don't buy the myth that gold writes better than steel. If tuned properly, both can write just as well. (If talking about anti-corrosion properties, gold does win over steel though!)

 

Dillon

[copierguy1961]

I have another newbie question about this pen. What type of converter does it take? I got the tig ers eye one from the Bay and I need to get a converter for it. Thanks in advance.....

[jde]

I have another newbie question about this pen. What type of converter does it take? I got the tig ers eye one from the Bay and I need to get a converter for it. Thanks in advance.....

 

It'll take the Sailor standard converter: this one. Congratulations on your grab off the 'Bay. It's a sweet pen.

[copierguy1961]

Thank you jde I just ordered one...